TSL LABS

Logic matters not. Your wasting your time
Its pretty clear
How many "Awesome Members" can you name? Use a little common sense and figure out exactly what would happen if any one of the Awesome Members posted good bloods in any lab thread....now use a little more common sense and figure out the most common tactic that lab will use after the influx of customers when making the next batch that needs stretch a little further with all off the new customers...logic is an amazing tool
 
First off here's a napkin for you sir, you need it after that tribute to trukk.
Second, who has appointed you the authority in this thread? You call one member selfish and lazy for not sharing bloods with the community then commend or completely agree when another member with a so called "Internet name" says they would NEVER post such bloods. Where's the name calling in the latter instance?
You say everyone needs to have bloods done, then go on to say they don't matter much or they won't be trusted unless you are someone with idk 5k+ posts.
Why don't YOU go get some bloods after running tsl gear and tell US, the community, how you feel rather than sitting there acting like you can fucking micromanage this thread. Cluttering this with thread with more nonsense.

I hope that was clear enough for you. Didn't want to drag anyone's "name" through banter. God forbid I damage anyone's "name."

What name, damn delusional morons. Get the fuck off your high horse, you stick a pin in your ass just like the rest of us.

Que the white knights...
Sir, I never said he was selfish for not sharing, I said he was selfish for not making the drive to get them done and then expect everyone to take his feelings as gold about this gear.

I'm far from the authority in this thread sir, fare from any authority. However, I will do my part and try to help when I can. If me trying to get someone to understand the importance of their own health by telling them the few hour drive is worth it is wrong to you, then your in the wrong forum. You left that part out of my post sir. I said his health and the health of people from this community.

Once again your showing you lack of fundamental reading. He did say he did this many many times before, but will no longer supply UGL's with this type of support. Show me where Trukk is giving a review of this lab sir? He isn't, just as I'm not, not yet anyway. Which is a perfect Segway into your next concern, my use of this lab and my blood work.

My blood work is of no concern to you, or anyone right now, because I'm not running this gear. So, why would you ask me to give bloods for members that will not help them in any way, shape, fashion, or form? Tell me what my blood work has to do with any of this? I'm not giving a review of this gear, but other were and doing it the way that is not widely accepted here on MESO. If you don't like this than kick rocks. One last thing, micromanagement was proven to never work. Especially when people such as yourself are involved. You will always have the few who just must go against the grain just to do it. So, if I'm wrong, most of the vets here on MESO must be wrong as well? I never said I respect Trukk because of post count, to the contrary. Once you learn the importance of reading the older posts here, you might just catch on to why not just me, but so many other MESO members respect him as well. This is something earned, not just given. Especially on MESO.
 
First off here's a napkin for you sir, you need it after that tribute to trukk.
Second, who has appointed you the authority in this thread? You call one member selfish and lazy for not sharing bloods with the community then commend or completely agree when another member with a so called "Internet name" says they would NEVER post such bloods. Where's the name calling in the latter instance?
You say everyone needs to have bloods done, then go on to say they don't matter much or they won't be trusted unless you are someone with idk 5k+ posts.
Why don't YOU go get some bloods after running tsl gear and tell US, the community, how you feel rather than sitting there acting like you can fucking micromanage this thread. Cluttering this with thread with more nonsense.

I hope that was clear enough for you. Didn't want to drag anyone's "name" through banter. God forbid I damage anyone's "name."

What name, damn delusional morons. Get the fuck off your high horse, you stick a pin in your ass just like the rest of us.

Que the white knights...
And no sir, I don't just stick a pun in myself Luke the rest of us obviously! I make sure I know I am doing it correct and make sure I look at testing of all kinds. Why don't you do your first good thing for this community and go donate to AL.
 
Not post yet still on cycle but yes pre and mid. I also have reference to the fact i ran out of the var and I'm back in the gym and taking dandelion root 3x a day and still not as vascular as i was on the var

I keep eye out for referances to Var, cant wait to give it a go eventually.
What's your opinion on Var in comparison Tbol and/or Superdrol?
 
I keep eye out for referances to Var, cant wait to give it a go eventually.
What's your opinion on Var in comparison Tbol and/or Superdrol?
I would suggest running CAR with a lower BF%, not sure where you are, but have read some about that. Haven't run any TBOL, or SDROL yet, but looking at SDROL very seriously.
 
I would suggest running CAR with a lower BF%, not sure where you are, but have read some about that. Haven't run any TBOL, or SDROL yet, but looking at SDROL very seriously.

Var is one of the few steroids that have been proven to have a small fat burning ability on visceral fat. If it isn't being used to show the grainy look of the muscle and one has the understanding that it won't work miracles but will aid in that specific goal, I would say it is good to use at higher bf % if that is what the user was intending it for..., but one must not be expecting to look like @size26s before competition if they have higher bf% lol[emoji23][emoji23]
 
I think the fat loose is very minimal in comparison to a good diet and cardio, JMO, especially when your adding another compound to do something that can be done without it. Not to sure what @Inquiring Mind is looking to do, or his goals, but if it's fat loss, I would choose the diet and cardio plan first and finish the cycle with a lower BF% to get the best results. I know I wish I would have waited until I was lower.
 
I think the fat loose is very minimal in comparison to a good diet and cardio, JMO, especially when your adding another compound to do something that can be done without it. Not to sure what @Inquiring Mind is looking to do, or his goals, but if it's fat loss, I would choose the diet and cardio plan first and finish the cycle with a lower BF% to get the best results. I know I wish I would have waited until I was lower.

My position is that cardo and diet in place before anabolics. It's almost rhetorical to me. Thus, the AAS for what nature will not allow. :)
 
Sorry can't help you there but you've already gotten some advice from stoke knowledgeable guys. That Tvar tsl has is intriguing but I haven't decided to order or attempt to order from him yet

That superdrol review makes me question all tsl orals :( I hear SD makes you feel like death pretty fast
 
What are your current stats and future goals?

Oh god, you're not gonna ask me my stats? :eek:

LOL. Started at 220 lbs 2 months ago...down to 212. Was 29% BF per bod pod ( dont laugh bitches) dont know exactly where i am now, been meaning to get follow up Bod Pod test..But i know i aint no 29% no mo!

My plans, slow progression. I'm in the public eye a lot. I want the progress to look like it comes about normally for me because "he just works out a lot" But ultimately i want lean mass. Id like to get down to 198lbs. Round muscle belly and striated, not a huge fan of veins. I want to get to that ideal physique that's in my mind and maintain it on just TRT.
 
Oh god, you're not gonna ask me my stats? :eek:

LOL. Started at 220 lbs 2 months ago...down to 212. Was 29% BF per bod pod ( dont laugh bitches) dont know exactly where i am now, been meaning to get follow up Bod Pod test..But i know i aint no 29% no mo!

My plans, slow progression. I'm in the public eye a lot. I want the progress to look like it comes about normally for me because "he just works out a lot" But ultimately i want lean mass. Id like to get down to 198lbs. Round muscle belly and striated, not a huge fan of veins. I want to get to that ideal physique that's in my mind and maintain it on just TRT.
So, in other words, your reaching for the sky as all of us do lol

Just joking... What's your diet like? I'm a huge fan of carb cycling. Once you get your spreadsheet set up, you can adjust it to bulk, or cut super easy! Your never hungry and I've had great success on it.
 
So, in other words, your reaching for the sky as all of us do lol

Just joking... What's your diet like? I'm a huge fan of carb cycling. Once you get your spreadsheet set up, you can adjust it to bulk, or cut super easy! Your never hungry and I've had great success on it.

Diet is clean, but boring. Thank god my wife is creative within the confines. But I know it needs more attention. I use an app called MyFitnessPal, it lets me enter anything i consume and finds its nutritional values and adds it all up for me. It's nice app, except that I haven't figured out how to assign how much cals i burn in a workout, otherwise the app would tell me exactly what my daily total cal intake taking into account training.
Currently, it has me at 2300 daily, but i feel like its not enough food. I still get hunger sometimes (at night of all times to be hungry).

Dude, PM me a sample of that spread sheet, if you wont mind. I tried carb cycling, but i couldn't get a grasp on it. Please, let me know how you did. What is your diet like?
 
But what your not understanding is just because you live in NY, it doesn't give you the right to give a guess that your gear is good and that's exactly what you would be doing without blood work. Is your health and the healthbof this community mean so little to you that you can't make a couple hour drive to get it done? Your statement alone made you very much less credible by telling everyone you really can't afford a few hours out of your life so just let me guess what's going in your body and mine. That's a very selfish and lazy act on your part my friend. This isn't a game and this shit is going in your body and ours. New members, especially the younger ones need to be led by example. If you give a review by example and it turned out to be HAMMERS Gear and it gave multiple members infections, guess what, that few hours you couldn't afford to give cost those members. Not being a dick, just trying to get you to understand your health and the health of this community is worth more than a few hour car ride.

PS- If you can't get blood work to back your claims, then there is plenty of other members who can and will give reviews based on fact and not a guess.
I have avoided the bullshit conflicts on here as best as I can but if you're going to "quote" me. Then make sure your facts are correct. I clearly said it was hard getting correctly timed blood work. I did not say I never do. I quoted someone who said that blood work is a piece of a puzzle. I said that there are many pieces to that puzzle and at times I and I'm sure other members on here have made decisions based on feel because at the time that's the info that they had. How could you even suggest that by not getting blood work I'm putting members at risk of infection. Mid cycle bloods drawn on a 12 week cycle would be what tells you that your gear is what's giving you that raging infection that happens to coincide with your injection site. If you need blood work to put those two together you are an idiot. I however would see the problem before bloods and certainly not recommend said lab. I'm also very up front about my situation so even someone who is new to this can take it for what it's worth. Why you would take the word of any single person on a forum like this without personal knowledge of said person and not a general consensus of what gets said on here again shows more of a lack of intelligence then anything that I said before and you twisted. So while I get that a lot of us are pretty full of aggression please get the facts straight by asking a direct question as opposed to starting a debate over misconstrued information.
 
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