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I think I remember you being a "low responder." When was your blood drawn relative to last pin? Do you pin the 100 mg once a week or 50mg twice a week?


100mg/once wk TRT dose.

Actually I said my Doc said I was a "good responder" to TRT, I guess because I have high free testosterone levels and a low SHBG ? Thats what he basically said...a high free test is better than a low free test w/ high total test I suppose.
 
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Masterpiece!
 
I was confirming with @Docd187123 that total T does not change (lower) in relation to free test (higher) for THE INDIVIDUAL

U TAGGED ME IN SAYING I MISINTERPRETED.... so what are you talking about?

Still on different pages. You did misintrepet my original statement when this took place months ago.

Which I re explained and @Oregongearhead blood showed exactly what I was trying to explain.

I never said that total t changes in relations to free test.

What was said is that if free testosterone is high then the body is has the ability to utiliZe the test more efficiently which can lower the numbers on a blood since the body is utilizing or "spending" the testosterone since the test is not bound up.

Although I did use a different analogy at the which might not have been the best and could have caused some confusion. But anyways, what doc said is correct so really we are just talking around each other now. My apologies my man.
 
@Roger rabbit since we're talking Test levels....

I pinned 500 mg of Test and not even 24 hours later I had my blood drawn to check my Test - free and total. My doctor just called me back and said my levels were at 1131. How can I determine what my base levels are, or can I? I didn't think it would kick in that fast. I front loaded the 500 mg and that was my initial dose.

@Brolloks, you mentioned something about a Test calculator?

The body starts cleaving off the ester the moment you inject the compound in the body.


So let's say your normal level was eh, 900 it could be possible that within 24 hours it rose up 200 points. But we don't know your base so what I'm suggesting is really hypothetical, but plausible.
 
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The body starts cleaving off the ester the moment you inject the compound in the body.


So let's say your normal level was eh, 900 it could be possible that within 24 hours it rose up 200 points. But we don't know your base so what I'm suggesting is really hypothetical, but plausible.
Damn. Thanks bro. I was hoping it didn't take THAT quick. But suffice it to say, it's possible that my base is decent, given only 500mg in less than 24 hours, right?

It was Cyp, not a short like Prop, if that makes any difference.
 
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TSL says get labs. Labs look like
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TSL responds by
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TSL doesn't communicate well, but everyone gets their gear.
TSL jacks up shipping in order to donate. Members are like
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GH15 starts talking and rumors of
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start.
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Shill! Shill! Shill!....Fire sale!
TSL says
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Has life changing medical thingy.
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Well put, and in pictures in case words are not understandable.
 
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TSL responds by
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TSL doesn't communicate well, but everyone gets their gear.
TSL jacks up shipping in order to donate. Members are like
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GH15 starts talking and rumors of
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start.
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Shill! Shill! Shill!....Fire sale!
TSL says
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Classic ...that will save someone a lot of reading. Great job!!!
 
Damn. Thanks bro. I was hoping it didn't take THAT quick. But suffice it to say, it's possible that my base is decent, given only 500mg in less than 24 hours, right?

It was Cyp, not a short like Prop, if that makes any difference.

Lol, you are probably even more lucky you didn't have prop[emoji23] probably would have been even higher.
 
What a read! Here's a recap:

TSL wants to be your friendly neighborhood gear dealer....while at the same time telling respected Meso members
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TSL says get labs. Labs look like
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TSL responds by
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TSL doesn't communicate well, but everyone gets their gear.
TSL jacks up shipping in order to donate. Members are like
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GH15 starts talking and rumors of
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start.
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Shill! Shill! Shill!....Fire sale!
TSL says
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Has life changing medical thingy.
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THIS....lmfao. This is considered art in my book.:D:D:p:)
 
@Roger rabbit since we're talking Test levels....

I pinned 500 mg of Test and not even 24 hours later I had my blood drawn to check my Test - free and total. My doctor just called me back and said my levels were at 1131. How can I determine what my base levels are, or can I? I didn't think it would kick in that fast. I front loaded the 500 mg and that was my initial dose.

@Brolloks, you mentioned something about a Test calculator?

You can't determine your base levels. A shot of test e will peak serum levels in around 24-48hrs
 
Still on different pages. You did misintrepet my original statement when this took place months ago.

Which I re explained and @Oregongearhead blood showed exactly what I was trying to explain.

I never said that total t changes in relations to free test.

What was said is that if free testosterone is high then the body is has the ability to utiliZe the test more efficiently which can lower the numbers on a blood since the body is utilizing or "spending" the testosterone since the test is not bound up.

Although I did use a different analogy at the which might not have been the best and could have caused some confusion. But anyways, what doc said is correct so really we are just talking around each other now. My apologies my man.

But OGH's bloods don't prove what you're saying. You don't have a baseline lab showing lower or higher free test with the corresponding lower or higher total test. His one lab doesn't prove anything in regards to our discussion.

The testosterone that's been attached to the AR is not spent up. Once testosterone binds to the AR and transcription takes place, the testosterone molecule dissociates from the AR and is then free to go back into the cell's cytosol for further activity or go back into circulation and attach to another cell. It's not spent once it binds. It gets spent once it's metabolized in the liver.

Then there's the issue that raising testosterone has a blunting effect on SHBG which then in turn raises free test which partially shows that you can increase free T without decreasing total.
 
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