maniac911
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If I'm looking at this correctly the NPP I got is just deca?
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If I'm looking at this correctly the NPP I got is just deca?
Vials A & B appear near identical . Reddish brown ?
maniac911
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So now what?
I wonder if it's dosed at 100mg/ml or 250mg/ml lol This is a little disappointing
I wonder if it's dosed at 100mg/ml or 250mg/ml lol This is a little disappointing
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legendary
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How much oil did u use?
legendary
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And what's all over sides of test vial?
maniac911
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4 or 5 drops... and I'm pretty sure that's what the test vials always look like
Roger rabbit
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legendary
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Ok. I always let mine stand upright a while before use. Also I'm pretty sure if u use too much it would be darker. I would pm TSL maybe he can shine some light.
maniac911
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I'm sure they didn't knowingly do it, but if they tested their raws this wouldn't happen
More than three drops will start to turn the sample darker shades of what it is suppose to look like until it's almost black. The samples will also become darker over time (just a couple minutes).
With that said, I'm saying it looks like deca. There will probably be a variation in hues with the use of a UV light on the B sample, which would support it being deca. The NPP would be a completely different color.
The only other variable is time until picture, but there should still be a slight variation in color between the A and B sample...
With that said, I'm saying it looks like deca. There will probably be a variation in hues with the use of a UV light on the B sample, which would support it being deca. The NPP would be a completely different color.
The only other variable is time until picture, but there should still be a slight variation in color between the A and B sample...
NPP is suppose to be olive green in A vial and yellow-gold in vial B . Did you ever see those colors Legendary ?
Absolutely right, it's either deca or too much hormone applied to the sample..
weighted chinup
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I could care less about this lab or how he does here, but I would take colorometric testing with a large grain of salt.
It's absurdly unreliable and constantly throws false positives. This applies to all colormetric test kits for AAS.
When everyone was relying on LM, everyone was convinced there is no real gear on the market. When HPLC became standard that completely changed.
At best it's a good tool to use to determine if further testing is required. If there's uncertainty about a compound among customers then TSL should post his own data or some anonymous testing should take place.
I prefer anecdotal feedback over colormetric test results at this point though.
It's absurdly unreliable and constantly throws false positives. This applies to all colormetric test kits for AAS.
When everyone was relying on LM, everyone was convinced there is no real gear on the market. When HPLC became standard that completely changed.
At best it's a good tool to use to determine if further testing is required. If there's uncertainty about a compound among customers then TSL should post his own data or some anonymous testing should take place.
I prefer anecdotal feedback over colormetric test results at this point though.
weighted chinup
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I do appreciate the contributions though, not trying to put anyone down, especially since they spent their time and $ on testing to help others. Just don't get too wrapped up in thinking a 'failed' color test is a death sentence for a lab. It's not that reliable.
Colorimetric testing is the poor mans bird dog. I use it to indicate presence of hormones only, and feel that Roidtest fairs better than Labmax..
weighted chinup
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I would rather people purchase Roidtest over Labmax. Roidtest is W. Llewellyn's product, who is a good guy.
Labmax is run by dicks. Or at least the rep(s) they sent on this board is a dick.
So if you're going to buy one, get Llewellyn's.
I dont know WC- these color kits will test consistent with real pharma products , I get that same greenish glow out of my Watson test-c everytime (using Labmax). I got the same exact colors with P-Com test-c .
All of P-Coms EQ and Deca also had their exact colors as on the color chart . Exactly . Its the cut in some UGL's that provide the weird colors . If its real it should match those color charts near perfectly , imo .
weighted chinup
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I get what you're saying OGH, I've just seen too many examples of bad Labmax results being vindicated by HPLC testing to know it just isn't that reliable. I actually believe there was a PCOM NPP that Labmaxed as Deca and when they sent it off for HPLC it turned out to be NPP as labeled.
Remember all the guys saying there is no real mast on the market when we were all using labmax to test stuff? Now that guys are relying on HPLC data to see whats good, I almost never see people saying things like that.
I think if there is genuine concern that the NPP is something other than NPP based on the colormetric test then maybe further testing should be done here. But maybe I'm too biased to see the issue straight because at this point I'm a little bitter by how let down I was by Labmax.
If you remember I defended the veracity of LM results quite a bit just a couple years ago. I've been let down too many times and now feel like colormetric testing has made an ass out of me, so the bitterness is real on my end lol.
legendary
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I've never tested npp. But I did mess up and put too much in before. All I ever tested was deca, cyp and var. but yes your showing deca. On the other hand these test only possibly show a hormone. Not how much. I would wait and see what tsl says. And did u do UV light also?
legendary
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And honestly I stopped using these test.
