UK GENTECH LABS

[johnnyBALLZ]

Have been having problems with various methods of accepting payments - UK is alot more difficult than USA as we dont have an abundance of VCC's and VBA's to juggle..!

Once customers have sent payment - whether we personally have a problem with payment or not, customer orders are sent out regardless.


Many thanks and I invite this as an opportunity for one of many "tests" by Meso members. As requested, please be completely honest whether it makes us look good or bad - and give us any feedback as we only want to get better (hence we are in the midst of producing NPP and Clen at the moment but havent released it for open sale on our website yet until we are happy with it).


Hi Dr Jim, you seriously have it out for me don't you! Regardless if you bad mouth us on here - we could be on another forum, sales in UK, supply to local gyms, your comments wont affect our business but what does bother me is your confusion with us and someone else who seems to have burned you. I have invited you before to contact me - even perhaps skype where we can talk in depth and I can show you our set up how we are producing - and see our faces/accents and hopefully prove whoever "David" is you are convinced is us - is not us or anything to do with us! We genuinely haven't even friggin heard of that Lab!


Bingo.... let me jump on this. Please be clear that GENTECH is our new brand started as of end of 2014. I have seen posts about "GENTECH" from as far back as 2006 and this was our unfortunate luck that the name was in circulation already when we chose our name for our Lab. I dont think that brand of Gentech is around since a few years - and our branding/website/products are completely different. I'd like to think your intellect would allow you to understand that a simple name can be changed and rebranded in 30 minutes if our intention was to "start a fresh after a bullshit lab run" - but we don't as we are not to be confused with the old Gentech (which I believe was US based as we have never come across it in UK).


Dr Jim - as I have said we are in the midst or sorting out our payment methods (as remaining anonymous is our top most priority for us and customers) - as I have said this is alot harder than if we were USA based - and we have come up with an idea to try to overcome the negative bias (which to be honest you and others have the right to have given the nature of this business).

We intend on producing 1000 vials of Test Prop (10ml) dosed as your usual 100mg/ml and having a crash sale on our website per vial (perhaps max of two per customer at this price) at £12.50 per vial which is just under $20. This way - people who are dubious about our products and don't want to gamble $100/200 of their money to check if our products are fake/bullshit/underdosed etc... can freely order from our website at this massive discount and see how they get on. This way many, many meso forum members can randomly buy and test this batch of 1000 vials which we can produce in a day and introduce our brand, packaging, sterility etc.

Dr Jim I invite your comments to my suggestion and as we have said before we invite your suggestions for our website/packaging/products as we are not a here today, gone tomorrow Lab... !

WWW.UKLABS247.COM

Please note - before people start emailing us about this offer - we have not cemented this yet and ideally would prefer to supply to UK domestic only - with the exception of Meso worldwide customers perhaps - but the cost of sending/stealth packaging/tracking services would have to be added.

Gary.

You're a flake, dude.. I see you tried to launch your "lab" here in November then disappeared after promising to post more the coming weekend. You go a week in between posts, just like David. Similar writing styles as well. Dr. Jim has you pegged, "mate"..

 

[GaryG]

You're a flake, dude.. I see you tried to launch your "lab" here in November then disappeared after promising to post more the coming weekend. You go a week in between posts, just like David. Similar writing styles as well. Dr. Jim has you pegged, "mate"..

Have a look at the website and products which have been well invested in, wait for people who have ordered from me to post up their experiences and then make your judgements.

Its absolute barriers and negativity like yours - which starts off as a good thing to obviously put off scammers/expose them etc which happens quite quickly between payments being made then people dissapearing - but to repeatedly try to throw nooses around good startup lab's necks with good products to make them think "fuck this" and bag some dollar and dissapear. We wont be one of these labs so perhaps we'll have this conversation again in a few months or year? One of our main reasons to produce our own products was not for money but to properly dose and have safely sterile gear for our friendship circle which is over 30 strong in gyms in UK. What happens from there is a bonus and by selling we're on the right track to make it a worthwhile operation to bring costs down as volume increases, so regardless of your comments it'll still be around.

 

[Dr JIM]

Have a look at the website and products which have been well invested in, wait for people who have ordered from me to post up their experiences and then make your judgements.

Its absolute barriers and negativity like yours - which starts off as a good thing to obviously put off scammers/expose them etc which happens quite quickly between payments being made then people dissapearing - but to repeatedly try to throw nooses around good startup lab's necks with good products to make them think "fuck this" and bag some dollar and dissapear. We wont be one of these labs so perhaps we'll have this conversation again in a few months or year? One of our main reasons to produce our own products was not for money but to properly dose and have safely sterile gear for our friendship circle which is over 30 strong in gyms in UK. What happens from there is a bonus and by selling we're on the right track to make it a worthwhile operation to bring costs down as volume increases, so regardless of your comments it'll still be around.

Oh yea why "wait" like I was foolish enough to do with "David" you WILL screw your clients eventually bc you are DAVID "Gary" and GENTECH is 'GETM".

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

One of our main reasons to produce our own products was not for money but to properly dose and have safely sterile gear for our friendship circle which is over 30 strong in gyms in UK.

ROTFLMFAO

 

[GaryG]

Oh yea why "wait" like I was foolish enough to do with "David" you WILL screw your clients eventually bc you are DAVID "Gary" and GENTECH is 'GETM".

I dont know what more you want when I've offered to skype you, talk to you on the phone, show you our lab set up etc ... prove we are UK based (which I assume "David" was USA as UK labs are rare..?) , offered you free gear not for testing but as a gesture of good will and you point blank flame me. What people have to remember, and its pretty obvious, people do have background affiliations and liaisons with labs/brands which are financially beneficial so I can only assume you are one of them by the way you point blank refuse to acknowledge my responses or efforts to prove otherwise.

Quite frankly Dr Jim I bet ever since you walked in to your playclub when you were 6 years old and saw your first girlfriend sharing a lucozade with a Alfred the little new black kid you've never been able to have a relationship since and are happily at home at the ripe old age of 45, still thinking condoms are expensive posh balloons and get excited at bed bathing your mother thrice daily, the one lady who would "never hurt you". Get over yourself mate.

 

[Nick9]

Oh lord, it's about to get out of hand up in this mother!

 

[GaryG]

Lol

 

[PRODIGALAMB]

I feel a storm a blowing. ..

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

What people have to remember, and its pretty obvious, people do have background affiliations and liaisons with labs/brands which are financially beneficial so I can only assume you are one of them by the way you point blank refuse to acknowledge my responses or efforts to prove otherwise.

You clowns are so predictable. It's always the same old shit with you guys. You must have a copy of the UGL Guide to Online Sourcing because you're following it to the letter.

Personally, I don't care who you are. You're a startup ugl with no references. You're only here because it didn't cost you anything and that says a lot about how serious of an operation you are. You are exactly the kind of source we warn new members to avoid. Meso is not the place for you. If you want to build a name for yourself, scrounge up the dough and buy an ad on ProMuscle. The mods will protect you and delete negative feedback.

Thinking that you can just wait it out and eventually you'll get a few suckers to try your gear and that will result in Gentech catching fire on Meso is a fantasy. It ain't gonna happen. Take a look around - how many labs do you see sourcing? Think about that.

 

[Dr JIM]

It's never going to be like you once had it on Meso David, because you fucked me and used my word to scam Meso members, and that kind of shit I will NEVER FORGET, you damn ASSCLOWN!

(Hmm, I suspected one day I would discover an appropriate application for that colloquialism and none could be more fitting than this!)

 

[GaryG]

I'm happy to direct funds in whichever way necessary... Dr Jim why would I sit on about 550-800 vials today if I was going to scam people? Would you like a picture with your name on paper in various different positions and I post it up? David was an American, do you want my British telephone number and you can call me day or night 24/7 to hear my voice and speak to me? You can grill me about anything on the phone, the brewing, the sterility issues, consistency of powders, weights etc - I've taken 5 steps to try to correct your mistake and assumption - you've not made one other than "oh look hes done pictures like that old dude David and speaks like him" - well maybe he was organized, efficient and so am I - but the difference is hes obviously scammed you. I am UK based and my ideal sales are from UK not USA as it costs money to relabel, stealth package and x4 the cost of delivery as well as having to fill out customs declarations each time. But I like this forum because people are knowledgable. Your normal tom dick and harry I've sold to have criticized my gear for hurting the next day - and then went on to grow more than any other labs theyve used before, because I dose properly and overdose. My biggest mistake was my Test E which is genuine 340-380 and people jab 2.5ml in their delts because thats what theyre used to around here and then I come along and they get a dead arm for days... After guiding them to do max 1ml per muscle, theyve gone on to grow beyond anything theyve taken so I know overdosing can actually be detrimental. Bit by bit we're improving and I can hand on heart say our Anavar 50mg is the highest dose in the game - and I've sent about 2/3 to Meso members so just wait and see the feedback.

 

[MoriorInvictus]

@GaryG

without some kind of proof that your products are dosed properly we cannot just take your word. You've posted several lengthy statements all of which is BS that we've heard here many times.

That being said I asked you when you first showed up here to take a piece of paper write your lab name on it and put it near your equipment and take a photo. Post it here so that at least we know you are working in a sterile environment with proper equipment. Will you even indulge me?

I'm not your customer and most likely never will be, so you could decide to ignore me. But I will become a thorn in your side if you don't step up and post something other than pictures of a bottle with fancy labels (that you are obviously very proud of). I've gotten gear from sources with a plain little homemade label and that shit was fire! Fancy bottles don't mean shit to me....

 

[GaryG]

@GaryG

without some kind of proof that your products are dosed properly we cannot just take your word. You've posted several lengthy statements all of which is BS that we've heard here many times.

That being said I asked you when you first showed up here to take a piece of paper write your lab name on it and put it near your equipment and take a photo. Post it here so that at least we know you are working in a sterile environment with proper equipment. Will you even indulge me?

I'm not your customer and most likely never will be, so you could decide to ignore me. But I will become a thorn in your side if you don't step up and post something other than pictures of a bottle with fancy labels (that you are obviously very proud of). I've gotten gear from sources with a plain little homemade label and that shit was fire! Fancy bottles don't mean shit to me....

Obviously you must understand that to post something like that up can be extremely incriminating bro ... I perhaps would be willing to facetime or skype you and show you without recordings/documented photos uploaded for the world to see...how does that sound?

 

[michaltyler]

Obviously you must understand that to post something like that up can be extremely incriminating bro ... I perhaps would be willing to facetime or skype you and show you without recordings/documented photos uploaded for the world to see...how does that sound?

...you're openly selling AAS, what's so incriminating about posting a picture of your lab? Just make sure there's no PII included in the picture.

EDIT:
In fact, facetime and skype are the most UNSECURE ways to provide information on your lab. A monkey could track you down.

 

[GaryG]

Can you link me via private message to another thread where this has been done? Just so I can have an idea whats included in the picture and how they've gone about disguising aspects of the location? Thanks.

 

[MoriorInvictus]

I feel like I'm holding your hand a little too much. Suck it up! It's not that hard.

 

[GaryG]

Ok - I'll arrange that and a few more. I'll have to fully camoflague the background and just focus on machinery - what about chemicals used such as Isophyl Alcohol 70% with 30% distilled water for washing, or food grade hygrogen peroxide 6% for washing the stoppers? Or the oven used up to 500degrees to dry sterilize? Or clean sterile beakers? Measuring equipment? I could go the full shabang but I still dont see how that beats good feedback from real customers...? I've had a few emails that people on here have recieved their items and would appreciate their thoughts so far on our stealth packaging methods, PIP etc so far...!

Website.......

WWW.UKROIDS247.COM

Will be updated in a few days. Have added few products such as HCG (not available for international shipping though as stealth packaging not possible of this pharma product) and safe injecting proceedure section will be done.

 

[GaryG]

Safe injecting page has been updated on our site for anyone needing referencing:

http://ukroids247.com/wp/?page_id=175

 

[Gunz561]

On my second vial of tren ace from this guy. Before anyone asks, I didnt mention anything about being from Meso. I ordered anonymously. I did not receive a discount and this guy has no idea who I am.

I am not doing bloods. All I have to offer on this is my experience so far. Keep in mind that this is my first legit (or what I believe to be) run of tren.

I started at 50mg ED for the first 7 days. I didn't feel different, notice anything whatsoever up until day 4. I realized one day while driving home from work, how god damn pissed off I was at everyone. I'm not naturally a real aggressive person but I swear to god I was ready to get out of the car and beat the shit out of somebody for anything. My pregnant wife also noticed how moody I've been and made it clear that she thinks I'm a fuckin asshole. I don't realize it unless I stop and focus and realize that it's the tren. Never in my life had this kind of reaction from any compound. In fact, I never had any side effects from anything really.

So on day 8- current (about day 15 or 16, gotta count) I've been pinning 75 Ed. This is when I noticed strength explode in a huge way. I was literally shocked. Putting up good weight. I'm currently eating in a deficit so I haven't really been gaining. I've read a lot about fat loss on tren which I thought was bullshit to be honest but I really do seem a lot leaner just a few weeks in.

Today I had my first experience of the dreaded tren cough. Boy that shit blows. Lasted about 6-7 minutes. Drank a shitload of water. It subsides. I am curious though if anyone experiences elevated heart beat specificly at night? It freaks me the fuck out it get so bad. I'm thinking about quitting if it happens again. Happened maybe about 6 times. I haven't had any severe night sweats but I do get severe insomnia. Days sometimes.

So far, this is my experience. Unfortunately I cannot compare it to anything else (other than hammers tren which did absolutely nothing to me). I'm in the belief that the tren I got is indeed tren. From my description would you guys be inclined to agree?

Also, I usually never have trouble eating in a deficit but I wake up so mother fucking hungry at night (when I do sleep). Crave carbs like a bitch. Is this indicative of tren? I don't recall reading anything about that.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

On my second vial of tren ace from this guy. Before anyone asks, I didnt mention anything about being from Meso. I ordered anonymously. I did not receive a discount and this guy has no idea who I am.

I think you're in the wrong thread, dude. You said you ordered tren from Hammer on Feb 19 and were going to get bloods on Mar 10.

I ordered some tren a from him. I'm getting bloods done on March 10th. I haven't run tren before, what should it make my blood look like? I Intend on starting at 25mg Ed working up. Kinda scared, more excited.... Just hope shit ain't bunk...also it's pretty damn weird u were getting results at first and then they stopped Odie. Shouldn't the oil be dosed the same through out?