Upcoming cycle. Test / Mast / Tren / Var. Thoughts?

[GainsGuru]

4th Cycle
1-12 Test C 400mg/wk (may increase to 500-600mg)
1-12 Mast E 400mg/wk
1-5 Anavar 40mg/ED split into 3 daily doses (10 am, 20 preworkout, 10 pm)
6-12 Tren A 30-40mg ED
IM L-carnitine 300-500mg

(Might add in Proviron 25mg ED and may increase to 50mg Anavar at wk 2.5)

Test and Mast MWF injections. L-carn injected only preworkout.

Aromasin, adex, nolva, and caber on hand if needed.

Coming into cycle off prescribed TRT of 150mg/wk Test C

What are your thoughts, criticisms, dose changes, etc.?

 

[GainsGuru]

damn, this thread died faster than my last relationship..

 

[theotherguy]

What are your goals for this cycle? Why start with the var? Why only half the cycle with tren?

 

[WannaBeBIG]

Run the Tren the whole time if you can handle the sides at your chosen dose. Have you run this amount of tren before?

I’m running 500 test, 700 mast and 500 Tren and have been very happy with things going into week 9 I think. It’s a great combination with great results. I bet you’ll be even happier with Anavar added in. I thought about it and have some at home but I’m still hesitant to jump on orals without adequate access to regular bloodwork.

What are your goals for this cycle? Mass gain? Cutting? What are your expectations and how’s your current training and diet going to change to make best use of this cycle?

 

[Deleted member 127229]

4th Cycle
1-12 Test C 400mg/wk (may increase to 500-600mg)
1-12 Mast E 400mg/wk
1-5 Anavar 40mg/ED split into 3 daily doses (10 am, 20 preworkout, 10 pm)
6-12 Tren A 30-40mg ED
IM L-carnitine 300-500mg

(Might add in Proviron 25mg ED and may increase to 50mg Anavar at wk 2.5)

Test and Mast MWF injections. L-carn injected only preworkout.

Aromasin, adex, nolva, and caber on hand if needed.

Coming into cycle off prescribed TRT of 150mg/wk Test C

What are your thoughts, criticisms, dose changes, etc.?

Anavar half life is 9 hours, No need to take it 3x a day like dbol. You definitely won’t need caber on 280 tren ace a week. No need for nolva either. Extend tren to 12-14wks. Up the tren then get a girlfriend with a feminine penis and your gtg

 

[GainsGuru]

Goal for the cycle is mainly cutting and no, I've never used tren before so I'm not sure how I'll respond to it. I figured I could put it at the end for a polishing effect to the overall cut as well as get a chance to see how I respond.

I think I'll start with it right away as you guys said. That way if it works for me, cool and if it doesn't, I can drop it for something else.

I will have enough Var on hand to extend it, but when it comes to orals, I prefer short bursts of time for health reasons while running 3 other compounds.

@theotherguy @WannaBeBIG @5scoops
(Idk if I need to @ you guys to see my response)

 

[GainsGuru]

Run the Tren the whole time if you can handle the sides at your chosen dose. Have you run this amount of tren before?

I’m running 500 test, 700 mast and 500 Tren and have been very happy with things going into week 9 I think. It’s a great combination with great results. I bet you’ll be even happier with Anavar added in. I thought about it and have some at home but I’m still hesitant to jump on orals without adequate access to regular bloodwork.

What are your goals for this cycle? Mass gain? Cutting? What are your expectations and how’s your current training and diet going to change to make best use of this cycle?

Training wise I run a PPL for 6 days a week. Plan to just implement more cardio than usual. I track all nutrition and keep a personal pen/paper cycle log with am/pm H.R. and B.P., total cal, water intake, lifts to keep progression, and a small synopsis of how the day went/any sides experienced

 

[Twizted]

Anavar half life is 9 hours, No need to take it 3x a day like dbol. You definitely won’t need caber on 280 tren ace a week. No need for nolva either. Extend tren to 12-14wks. Up the tren then get a girlfriend with a feminine penis and your gtg

I wouldn't say "definitely," some of us are really sensitive to prolactin. I would 100% need caber at that dose or I would end up lactating. Chances are you won't need it, but it is a possibility.

 

[GainsGuru]

I wouldn't say "definitely," some of us are really sensitive to prolactin. I would 100% need caber at that dose or I would end up lactating. Chances are you won't need it, but it is a possibility.

I didn't really need caber at 400-500mg Deca so I'm assuming I wont. I only mentioned the AI's/SERMS/Caber so everyone knows I'm prepared if need be

 

[WannaBeBIG]

The best course of action for starting out with Tren and how I wish I started is how I set up my current third run with the compound

Start with daily injections at a very low dose, something like 20mg every day or ED. Then on a weekly basis increase your daily dose by 10mg. You will be able to assess side effects positive or negative and if you’re using Tren Acetate you can quickly fine tune your dose to your sweet spot.

I started at 30mg ED and it took me 7 weeks to get to a weekly total of 490mg and unlike my first two times I have experienced almost zero negative side effects.

Low and slow is key to Tren. That’s why I think you should start day 1 and slowly ramp up dose until you’re happy with the effects while keeping negatives to a minimum.

Week 1 20mg ED
Week 2 30mg ED
Week 3 40mg ED
Continue until you can’t stand it anymore id say up to 500-700mg per week. I’d of course suggest to keep with lowest effective dose which may be just 300mg per week

 

[GainsGuru]

The best course of action for starting out with Tren and how I wish I started is how I set up my current third run with the compound

Start with daily injections at a very low dose, something like 20mg every day or ED. Then on a weekly basis increase your daily dose by 10mg. You will be able to assess side effects positive or negative and if you’re using Tren Acetate you can quickly fine tune your dose to your sweet spot.

I started at 30mg ED and it took me 7 weeks to get to a weekly total of 490mg and unlike my first two times I have experienced almost zero negative side effects.

Low and slow is key to Tren. That’s why I think you should start day 1 and slowly ramp up dose until you’re happy with the effects while keeping negatives to a minimum.

Week 1 20mg ED
Week 2 30mg ED
Week 3 40mg ED
Continue until you can’t stand it anymore id say up to 500-700mg per week. I’d of course suggest to keep with lowest effective dose which may be just 300mg per week

Thanks, I like this approach and I'll definitely do it that way, but I likely won't exceed 400mg per week even if everything goes and feels well.

 

[WannaBeBIG]

Thanks, I like this approach and I'll definitely do it that way, but I likely won't exceed 400mg per week even if everything goes and feels well.

Best of luck!

 

[Deleted member 127229]

Goal for the cycle is mainly cutting and no, I've never used tren before so I'm not sure how I'll respond to it. I figured I could put it at the end for a polishing effect to the overall cut as well as get a chance to see how I respond.

I think I'll start with it right away as you guys said. That way if it works for me, cool and if it doesn't, I can drop it for something else.

I will have enough Var on hand to extend it, but when it comes to orals, I prefer short bursts of time for health reasons while running 3 other compounds.

@theotherguy @WannaBeBIG @5scoops
(Idk if I need to @ you guys to see my response)

Nah you don’t have to @ me, We can see your replies

 

[GainsGuru]

Hey guys, currently on day 8. Not noticing any mental sides from Tren at 200mg. Good sign or too early to tell?

 

[theotherguy]

Hey guys, currently on day 8. Not noticing any mental sides from Tren at 200mg. Good sign or too early to tell?

Too early to tell, it can take 3-4 weeks for tren sides to fully set in, even with ace