W&M Analytical Liaison (U.S. Domestic)

[mercury]

Fuck you and leave this thread.

@Weights & Measures please keep being respectful, honest and provide reliable testing. I recommend to put the con man @janoshik on ignore. You do not have to answer to him he is not your customer. He is also not a member here. He is simply looking out for his financial interests.

movingiron88 another W&M shill

 

[mercury]

Please read all the way through:

I have communicated with the chemist. He doesn’t feel that there is any need to purchase an additional reference when the purpose of this test is to compare and quantify an unknown vial’s contents to authentic r(hGH) from a reputable source.

why do not you invite your chemist to come over and explain. With each question and answer you create just more mess.

why do not you answer simple question I asked you about the graph, is it indeed phony and you avoided answer ?

you will be badly discredited if you do not do this and only left only with those few shills giving you each time thumbs up here.

at the end I can ask a few trusted members to send me anomalously the samples for analysis, without me knowing what I am getting and if we will see it they match

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

why do not you invite your chemist to come over and explain. With each question and answer you create just more mess.

why do not you answer simple question I asked you about the graph, is it indeed phony and you avoided answer ?

you will be badly discredited if you do not do this and only left only with those few shills giving you each time thumbs up here.

at the end I can ask a few trusted members to send me anomalously the samples for analysis, without me knowing what I am getting and if we will see it they match

I don’t think you get to decide his credibility. There’s a lot of smart guys here and we’ve been satisfied with the service W&M is providing at the cost that he’s charging. You can keep posting all your “concerns” but I don’t think anyone listens to you at all.

You have basically reduced YOUR OWN credibility. No one takes you seriously dude. So keep posting. You’re one amusing little fella!

 

[rpbb]

still comes down to the fact that we need reliable hgh testing resources here without all the fucking drama we've had about it on this site about it for the last 5 years. Seems like @Weights & Measures has a great plan, and the liones of communication between him and Jano are good. So how about everyone shut the fuck up and wait for the results without alot of pissing and moaning

 

[T-Bagger]

So the dipshit Mercury wants the chemist to come talk yet Jano already talked to him and was satisfied with what they discussed. Piss off Mercury.

 

[mercury]

I don’t think you get to decide his credibility. There’s a lot of smart guys here and we’ve been satisfied with the service W&M is providing at the cost that he’s charging. You can keep posting all your “concerns” but I don’t think anyone listens to you at all.

You have basically reduced YOUR OWN credibility. No one takes you seriously dude. So keep posting. You’re one amusing little fella!

you already tired to discredit me once to google something you do not have clue about and the end you proved that you are the moron with the scientific background.

you lost your face and you think that you can regain it by posting something now.

did you notice that only a few the same like you give you thumbs up.

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

you already tired to discredit me once to google something you do not have clue about and the end you proved that you are the moron with the scientific background.

you lost your face and you think that you can regain it by posting something now.

did you notice that only a few the same like you give you thumbs up.

I don’t think I lost face and I don’t think I’ve been discredited. I think we’re still waiting for W&M to answer how he tests for HGH.

YOU claimed that the lab reports have been photoshopped.

YOU claimed it was a “pathology” report.

It’s a Sigma Aldrich standard jackass. It might not be the best one to use but it’s NOT a doctored pathology report. So who exactly was discredited???

And “likes” wtf? Is that how you keep score? I don’t think ANYONE has even given you a “like” in this thread, sport.

 

[Roger rabbit]

why do not you invite your chemist to come over and explain. With each question and answer you create just more mess.

why do not you answer simple question I asked you about the graph, is it indeed phony and you avoided answer ?

you will be badly discredited if you do not do this and only left only with those few shills giving you each time thumbs up here.

at the end I can ask a few trusted members to send me anomalously the samples for analysis, without me knowing what I am getting and if we will see it they match

At first this was amusing. It’s getting really old.

You brought allegations with zero backing and threw mud on a wall hoping something would stick.

You call any member who disagrees with you a shill and make them out to be not intelligent... yet you can’t make a complete sentence or even get a point across without bashing or trying to smear someone.

You aren’t saving anyone or helping the community. You said what you had to say and slung enough mud even a two year old would get bored by now.

Please find another sandbox to play in.

 

[janoshik]

So the dipshit Mercury wants the chemist to come talk yet Jano already talked to him and was satisfied with what they discussed. Piss off Mercury.

Yes, the chemist is certainly a real chemist, I don't doubt that.

 

[rpbb]

like I said, lets see how the plan @Weights & Measures came up with works out. A good time to sit back, shit the fuck up, and wait for the results

 

[mercury]

At first this was amusing. It’s getting really old.

You brought allegations with zero backing and threw mud on a wall hoping something would stick.

You call any member who disagrees with you a shill and make them out to be not intelligent... yet you can’t make a complete sentence or even get a point across without bashing or trying to smear someone.

You aren’t saving anyone or helping the community. You said what you had to say and slung enough mud even a two year old would get bored by now.

Please find another sandbox to play in.

I am just tired calling people names but I should do exception in your case. you do not read what was posted you only read what fits your narrow mind.

let me repeat again last not all. what does the third curve mean ? and why is the resolution is different you cannot read anything on the graph, this is not what is coming out unless you put it together in photo editor. Not to mention misspelled BOLDER here, while right in another place. If you punch the name in machine, it cannot print it in one place right and misspelled in another.

 

[Roger rabbit]

I am just tired calling people names but I should do exception in your case. you do not read what was posted you only read what fits your narrow mind.

let me repeat again last not all. what does the third curve mean ? and why is the resolution is different you cannot read anything on the graph, this is not what is coming out unless you put it together in photo editor. Not to mention misspelled BOLDER here, while right in another place. If you punch the name in machine, it cannot print it in one place right and misspelled in another.

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I read everything you posted, including all your insults even the one directed at me.

I’m fluent in photo shop And have taken MANY courses for the program. You are reaching very far with your “visual” evidence.

I won’t sling mud or Insult your intelligence or motives so keep slinging mud on anyone and everyone who disagrees with you. ( which is 99%) of the community.

 

[mercury]

I won’t sling mud or Insult your intelligence or motives so keep slinging mud on anyone and everyone who disagrees with you. ( which is 99%) of the community.

bring some authority and professionals so we can have real discussion your community is only 5+ and always the same people and they mean nothing.

 

[Sdryx]

@janoshik... what standard are you using for testing HGH? Can you show proof of your purchase of that standard?

It’s been asked of you for YEARS now, what you are asking W&M to show, yet for some reason you have not provided the same evidence for YEARS! It is quite ironic that you sit here requesting anything actually.

If he has to go out of his way about all this proof, you should as well. Where’s your standards? Aren’t you still taking money for testing HGH??? Let’s see your standard and how many times you use it before you must purchase a new one.

 

[Steve84]

Fuck you and leave this thread.

@Weights & Measures please keep being respectful, honest and provide reliable testing. I recommend to put the con man @janoshik on ignore. You do not have to answer to him he is not your customer. He is also not a member here. He is simply looking out for his financial interests.

@janoshik

Don't let this get to you.
I don't think he speaks for everyone.

You should be in this thread and this response is 100% along the way of how you should act and conduct yourself.

With little to no experts around to help provide a perspective, your knowledge is appreciated.

You gave facts and helped direct things the right way. Whether you agree with things or this is direct competition.
You acting/helping out in asking the right questions builds credibility to yourself where I would consider using you more because of it.

There is always competition and will always be. But I appreciate a good response that adds value to the conversation.

Whether the advice gets used or not is a totally separate issue. An average person would not ask a question that you might ask.

 

[janoshik]

@janoshik

Don't let this get to you.
I don't think he speaks for everyone.

You should be in this thread and this response is 100% along the way of how you should act and conduct yourself.

With little to no experts around to help provide a perspective, your knowledge is appreciated.

You gave facts and helped direct things the right way. Whether you agree with things or this is direct competition.
You acting/helping out in asking the right questions builds credibility to yourself where I would consider using you more because of it.

There is always competition and will always be. But I appreciate a good response that adds value to the conversation.

Whether the advice gets used or not is a totally separate issue. An average person would not ask a question that you might ask.

Thank you.

Considering the fact you are quoting the person I have on ignore, I can assure you, it's not getting to me.

Regarding the rest, I really appreciate it, it means a lot to me. I try to be helpful, both for community and, even if it doesn't seem that way for W&M, but I have social capability of a guinea pig, which I apologize for.

 

[Sdryx]

Am I the only one here that recognizes that Jano provides NOTHING when asked for verification of standards himself for his own testing... yet he sits in every testing thread casting doubt against literally ALL of his competitors and somehow he has never provided anything himself of which he asks of others. Quite telling I believe...

Yes, of course with his knowledge he can sure cast doubt as he brings up a litany of jargon which the general population doesn’t understand. However, for him to be credible, he should be providing the same which he is asking of others. Otherwise, he is just using his knowledge to create doubt.

“Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.”

To this day, Jano has NEVER provided any evidence of himself even owning a standard, ever. It’s ludicrous of him being here demanding anything at all, let alone the exact thing that he’s been asked of for years.

Jano, I’ll ask again... where’s proof of the standards that you have purchased for the on-going tests that you conduct on a regular basis which you are receiving $$$ for??? Are you here just to cast doubt or have you genuinely conducted proper business yourself and are looking out for the board?

(I’m not defending W&M btw. I’m just finding it very ironic that Jano of all people is asking for proof of a standard when he was literally asked for one for years and never provided one.)

 

[bickel29]

I wish Jano had more credibility, I really do. I agree with @Steve84 that having a credible, knowledgeable individual to "ask the right questions" would be great!

Unfortunately, Jano is NOT that individual.

First, he provides a competing service. Conflict of interest.

Second, there is this issue that must be factored in.

Jano "The ultimate Con-man and Liar?" thread...You be the judge

IMO, Jano does not qualify as the "credible" expert. I wish I felt differently.

 

[Iron Vett]

Am I the only one here that recognizes that Jano provides NOTHING when asked for verification of standards himself for his own testing... yet he sits in every testing thread casting doubt against literally ALL of his competitors and somehow he has never provided anything himself of which he asks of others. Quite telling I believe...

Yes, of course with his knowledge he can sure cast doubt as he brings up a litany of jargon which the general population doesn’t understand. However, for him to be credible, he should be providing the same which he is asking of others. Otherwise, he is just using his knowledge to create doubt.

“Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.”

To this day, Jano has NEVER provided any evidence of himself even owning a standard, ever. It’s ludicrous of him being here demanding anything at all, let alone the exact thing that he’s been asked of for years.

Jano, I’ll ask again... where’s proof of the standards that you have purchased for the on-going tests that you conduct on a regular basis which you are receiving $$$ for??? Are you here just to cast doubt or have you genuinely conducted proper business yourself and are looking out for the board?

(I’m not defending W&M btw. I’m just finding it very ironic that Jano of all people is asking for proof of a standard when he was literally asked for one for years and never provided one.)

The only pics I’ve ever seen Jano post was when he and Mercury were posting dick pics and the hplc machines happened to be in the background.

 

[mands]

Am I the only one here that recognizes that Jano provides NOTHING when asked for verification of standards himself for his own testing... yet he sits in every testing thread casting doubt against literally ALL of his competitors and somehow he has never provided anything himself of which he asks of others. Quite telling I believe...

Yes, of course with his knowledge he can sure cast doubt as he brings up a litany of jargon which the general population doesn’t understand. However, for him to be credible, he should be providing the same which he is asking of others. Otherwise, he is just using his knowledge to create doubt.

“Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.”

To this day, Jano has NEVER provided any evidence of himself even owning a standard, ever. It’s ludicrous of him being here demanding anything at all, let alone the exact thing that he’s been asked of for years.

Jano, I’ll ask again... where’s proof of the standards that you have purchased for the on-going tests that you conduct on a regular basis which you are receiving $$$ for??? Are you here just to cast doubt or have you genuinely conducted proper business yourself and are looking out for the board?

(I’m not defending W&M btw. I’m just finding it very ironic that Jano of all people is asking for proof of a standard when he was literally asked for one for years and never provided one.)

He has never provided any information on this board that I've ever seen.

He also I don't believe shown any actual analytical data for that matter.

So, asking for information that he does not provide is somewhat ridiculous. It's up to the members here to be asking for that information from a tester. Not Janet.

mands