W&M Analytical Liaison (U.S. Domestic)

@Weights & Measures can your lab test for micro-organisms and sterility of a finished oil? Curious to see if there's anything growing in the bacon bits.
Yes, no problem.
I haven’t sent one for micro testing yet; so I can’t say the exact turnaround time.

I know for any cultures we do at work, there is a preliminary report at 48 hours and the final is 5 days. Some organisms replicate slower than others.

Also I will have to ask if AFB is a separate test from the routine aerobic and anaerobic culture; like it is with blood cultures.
Muscular infections with tuberculosis account for a small percentage of TB infections. I’m not completely sure if all those patients have pulmonary TB before the myositis; and I’m not sure if TB will grow in oil. But TB won’t grow out in a culture without a specific medium for acid fast bacillus.
 
if you want to be the master coordinator [master.co] I am listening you can PM me with ideas.

what about free for now as a pilot project
The only problem is that costs quickly add up and I don't know how much BBers are willing to pay.

Lets suppose a domestic remailer gets paid $40 per package, plus some $10 for stamps to mail it overseas
that adds $50 to the costs.

Supposing you charge customers $150 per test, that leaves you with only $100 to cover lab expenses.

You could charge customers $200 but IDK if that'll be to pricey and scare fish, I mean customers away. Then keep $150 of those $200.


Indeed. Billionaires just have gotten away with a lot for far longer.

I think he's referring to the ones which use loopholes to avoid paying taxes, pay next to nothing in taxes, hide assets, have no issues treating low level employees like slaves (and cutting hours from full time to part time to avoid health coverage), etc.
Laws actually allow businesses (mostly owned by wealthy people) to pay less taxes than individuals do.

Not as bad as it sounds as businesses take bigger risks too. Any individual can easily get another job after being fired from the previous one (unless he is @Sak lol) but businesses can't easily deleverage themselves after being heavily invested in a failing enterprise.

Rich = bad?
Wtf?
Lots of Bernie Sanders supporters around, it seems.
 
You will have to click on the PDF at the bottom to view the report. I am still working with him on my own template so I don't have to take pictures of reports anymore.
"hGH is hGH is hGH..."
Of course the ID is going to be identical and that's the only thing that the report shows.

I went great deal to explain that the problem would be with the quantification... and there's not a slightest sight of data related to that in there...

It can be done via comparison or specified amount of one to specified amount of second one, that's all it takes.

When did you open the USP standard?
1st of May as stated in the Date of the Analysis "05-01-2019" ?

If so, it will still be good for that.


Also, appreciated.
 
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For additional cost, is it possible for you to determine the impurity’s in a finished oil that has been brewed?

This is assuming the raws weren’t tested prior and then you wanted to test a finished oil?
 
For additional cost, is it possible for you to determine the impurity’s in a finished oil that has been brewed?

This is assuming the raws weren’t tested prior and then you wanted to test a finished oil?
Sorry man. My notifications are disabled; and I haven't had a lot of time to cruise MESO.
I am not sure which types of contaminates you mean. Different hormone/API compounds definitely show up; and creatine contamination was detected before.
If you can let me know a specific type of impurity you are questioning; I can ask and get you the answer.
 
P.S.A.

Due to recent allegations, accusations, drama, and other various unnecessary irritations created by your peers:

I will no longer accept any oils that are not in unopened/unused vials with caps intact.
 
P.S.A.

Due to recent allegations, accusations, drama, and other various unnecessary irritations created by your peers:

I will no longer accept any oils that are not in unopened/unused vials with caps intact.

Hmmm... I respect your decision, but this seems to me to be a case of you letting the vocal minority discourage you from serving the majority here who have potential instances where having something tested that they have already started running would be of great value. An example being a user has ordered one bottle of tren A from a new source to finish off his tren cycle, just to see how this tren compares to his usual source, and he is no longer feeling his previously experienced tren sides on this new sources tren. Before coming here to the forums to report negatively on this new sources tren, he wants to be as fair as possible and have it tested.

This is no longer possible. Negatively impacting the goals of the majority here, to appease the vocal minority.

Unless I am looking at this wrong, or not understanding your post.

Respectfully...
 
P.S.A.

Due to recent allegations, accusations, drama, and other various unnecessary irritations created by your peers:

I will no longer accept any oils that are not in unopened/unused vials with caps intact.

My bad for pulling you into that shits show. Upon further reading on my end I think most of that was intended to throw shade from another party and I took the bait.

You seem to provide a quality service, keep doing you.
 
Hmmm... I respect your decision, but this seems to me to be a case of you letting the vocal minority discourage you from serving the majority here who have potential instances where having something tested that they have already started running would be of great value. An example being a user has ordered one bottle of tren A from a new source to finish off his tren cycle, just to see how this tren compares to his usual source, and he is no longer feeling his previously experienced tren sides on this new sources tren. Before coming here to the forums to report negatively on this new sources tren, he wants to be as fair as possible and have it tested.

This is no longer possible. Negatively impacting the goals of the majority here, to appease the vocal minority.

Unless I am looking at this wrong, or not understanding your post.

Respectfully...

I actually agree....
I pulled only 1600 test on about 475mg/test e a week.
Thought it was bunk, so sent the open bottle for analysis and it came back spot on.
Turned out to be bodily factors.

I think there should be exceptions to the open bottle rule for this purpose.
 
I actually agree....
I pulled only 1600 test on about 475mg/test e a week.
Thought it was bunk, so sent the open bottle for analysis and it came back spot on.
Turned out to be bodily factors.

I think there should be exceptions to the open bottle rule for this purpose.

Exactly the kind of scenario I was thinking of.
 
My bad for pulling you into that shits show. Upon further reading on my end I think most of that was intended to throw shade from another party and I took the bait.

You seem to provide a quality service, keep doing you.
Man it's no problem really. The last couple of weeks have been extraordinarily long; and I was likely more edgy than I normally am.
I just got good and awake now; and it looks like something wild went down in here. Will take me a while to catch up.
I really appreciate you reaching out.
 
Hmmm... I respect your decision, but this seems to me to be a case of you letting the vocal minority discourage you from serving the majority here who have potential instances where having something tested that they have already started running would be of great value. An example being a user has ordered one bottle of tren A from a new source to finish off his tren cycle, just to see how this tren compares to his usual source, and he is no longer feeling his previously experienced tren sides on this new sources tren. Before coming here to the forums to report negatively on this new sources tren, he wants to be as fair as possible and have it tested.

This is no longer possible. Negatively impacting the goals of the majority here, to appease the vocal minority.

Unless I am looking at this wrong, or not understanding your post.

Respectfully...

I think we actually think very similar. I had the exact same thoughts that you typed here. Those are the guys I wanted to help most.
But, I honestly don't know what else to do. I know for sure I can't keep paying the chemist for rerun after rerun after rerun to validate responses to all the accusations and such.
I get mad about it for sure; but we all get over getting mad. It's just the money part I can't get past.
No lie, my wife and I sat down and talked about this last week, or maybe this week I'm not sure; but anyway we sat down and took all my money order receipts, added them up, and compared them to my ledger of money I have taken in. I'm $37 negative,in total, from the day I got my first sample. Then we talked about the fact that I'm always looking at my phone and trips to the PO etc, etc.
So last week when I was so mad, and when I go so mad over the GH shenanigans; it took away from my family life. And I had to rationalize that to her.
I have to draw a line man, I hope you can understand that.
I really like doing this, both for the cool "secret op" business and for the ability to help by testing.

I'm not totally closed off to modifications to my policy; but I have to do the best thing for me and the people that need me.

If you can recommend something else that would work as well; I am open to considering it.
 
I actually agree....
I pulled only 1600 test on about 475mg/test e a week.
Thought it was bunk, so sent the open bottle for analysis and it came back spot on.
Turned out to be bodily factors.

I think there should be exceptions to the open bottle rule for this purpose.
I'm willing to consider any other good alternatives man. I can't promise I will agree, but I will definitely consider something else. I just have to do something different.
 
I think we actually think very similar. I had the exact same thoughts that you typed here. Those are the guys I wanted to help most.
But, I honestly don't know what else to do. I know for sure I can't keep paying the chemist for rerun after rerun after rerun to validate responses to all the accusations and such.
I get mad about it for sure; but we all get over getting mad. It's just the money part I can't get past.
No lie, my wife and I sat down and talked about this last week, or maybe this week I'm not sure; but anyway we sat down and took all my money order receipts, added them up, and compared them to my ledger of money I have taken in. I'm $37 negative,in total, from the day I got my first sample. Then we talked about the fact that I'm always looking at my phone and trips to the PO etc, etc.
So last week when I was so mad, and when I go so mad over the GH shenanigans; it took away from my family life. And I had to rationalize that to her.
I have to draw a line man, I hope you can understand that.
I really like doing this, both for the cool "secret op" business and for the ability to help by testing.

I'm not totally closed off to modifications to my policy; but I have to do the best thing for me and the people that need me.

If you can recommend something else that would work as well; I am open to considering it.
Do whatever makes you happy, you only live once. And I'm sick of all the whining and bullshit you've had to put up with since you started this operation.
 
I'm willing to consider any other good alternatives man. I can't promise I will agree, but I will definitely consider something else. I just have to do something different.

I would think that samples in the sterile essential oils bottles would be fine if the report stated in a note that the sample was not received in a sealed vial. Also state to the customers that there will be no retests, ever, on samples not received in a sealed vial and also that a source may not accept the results of the test for store credit. This could all be included as a standard statement in the email with payment instructions, and that by sending payment, the customer has agreed to these conditions.

Edit: This would help out the guys that just want to know if their product is good or not in case it’s being trusted for show prep, etc.
 
I would think that samples in the sterile essential oils bottles would be fine if the report stated in a note that the sample was not received in a sealed vial. Also state to the customers that there will be no retests, ever, on samples not received in a sealed vial and also that a source may not accept the results of the test for store credit. This could all be included as a standard statement in the email with payment instructions, and that by sending payment, the customer has agreed to these conditions.

Edit: This would help out the guys that just want to know if their product is good or not in case it’s being trusted for show prep, etc.
This seems reasonable and I will think about it for a couple days.
Thank you for the suggestion.
 
I’m not sure if it was addressed or not, but anyone continuing to use W&M for testing, remove the label of your vial you’re sending in. Blind tests are best and we don’t want any scrutiny coming from people saying they knew what they were testing, so they just made up numbers.
Correct. Thank you.
All oil and powder tests are blind.
Only pills need a list of 3 possible active ingredients.
 
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