Western-BioTech - Pharma quality GH

[Mr.Bravo]

Karl again a baseless claim would be, I make hgh but have no data that proves I actually do. That is a baseless claim karl would you not agree?

Hey now you wait one minute Mr Buster CBS! Who do you think you are "challenging JIMS TESTS" fella! We all know "I'm an honest businessman, my reputation speaks for itself"

Why it's also an established fact even the tests I've posted we not necessary, but I do these sorts of things for Meso members bc they have been confused by a big cats like you.

I've challenged everyone here to try my product and test (it for me so I don't have to) it two, cause that way everyone knows its better than pharm grade.

That means I make it myself for sure and I know we agree to that!

So lets stopage this nonsense MR fella about my lab tests. You knoiw I've done these silly things and anyone can review the excellnt results at the earlier portions of my thread.

And don't let that Dr ? Jim confuse these younger mates bc he doesn't even know about "SDS" (Sodium Dodecyl Sulfate or Sensory Deficit Syndrome). Oh yea and that JIM also lied bc first he says his tests are the best and now he says his tests are not any good.

I'm surprised people cant see what he trying to do whit this garbage, he's trying to make me spend more monies for tests that are NOT needed or repeat those I've done already.
He is very tricky guy and I know he not like me from the beginning bc he didnt like my best employees MH! And yes that made me very mad. How can he treat MH lke he does, that why I like the better forum like PM.

Finally I know my technical guys and professors are the best in the field! They have experimented on many things like steak enzymes in test tubes, a few things that are working alive and one professor is in the process of getting his certificate to works on human tissue!!!

So I'm tired of hearing all this BS from those few on Meso you have agendas or dont like me bc we should be fair and lets give people a chance to try and test my product.

This is ALL I ask and we all agree this is true from the beginning!
So please lets be honest now!!!

Respects
Karlie

What a gem

 

[biggerben69]

I could never imagine that such a repeated set of lies and baseless claims may prevail anywhere, even in this forum, anyhow and for anyone who's just joined this thread I'll summarize the facts against the lies

You summed up your entire GH production fantasy in the quote above. You make baseless claims. You believe you are to be given latitude to such an extent that anything you say unless proven to be 100% false beyond any reasonable doubt must be taken as fact?
Get over yourself, we have.

 

[brutus79]

You summed up your entire GH production fantasy in the quote above. You make baseless claims. You believe you are to be given latitude to such an extent that anything you say unless proven to be 100% false beyond any reasonable doubt must be taken as fact?
Get over yourself, we have.

Aaaaaaaand there is the SNAP!

 

[Western-Biotech]

I would be happy to repeat on the facts, I would be honored if u could refute one of them.

Again - let make anonymous orders, and cross testings ... ohh I guess it will confirm my statements so better post some nonsense.

Anything besides anonymous testing and comparing results is simply trolling .

 

[ironwill1951]

anonymous orders means someone sending you money , right, dumbfuck,

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

anonymous orders means someone sending you money , right, dumbfuck,

Don't forget this cross testing which would cost Dr Jim money and time.. Nobody should spend a dime to prove anything for you, what planet do you fucking live on?!?! Holy shit...

We're not here to help you Karl, actually quite the opposite..

 

[Western-Biotech]

I offered many times to pay back after testings, how u like to make an anonymous order ? how u like to get an objective data if the customer won't test, you may ask and I offer any customer extra gift for posting blood work from any kind, I simply send a gift in the cost of tests

If u like me to cooperate with Dr Jim or anyone else and send samples I'm cool, we may try to work out something according to your preferences - I PMed Dr Jim, and other members, if you have any idea I'll cooperate, Dr Jim of course replied with "FUCK YOU" I mean literally "FUCK YOU", he's a funny dud

I do manufacture the GH, and with your kind help or without it it'll be proved, it would be much more fun and productive to gain your trust and do it with your help, this is all I say

Give me any idea and I'll cooperate

 

[ufcguy32]

How u feeling jb ? Workouts going good? I did 10x10 yesterday with legs. No walking today lol

 

[Western-Biotech]

BTW - I offered to Dr Jim to send him what is called I believe in English "body inclusion" which includes the GH molecule implanted in its DNA - this proves that we own the engineered bacteria - and anyone may test the GH in the body inclusion, and compare it to the GH in the product he gets.

I have to ask for full details how it works, and may give u an update in less then 24 hours - I would like to understand what is the procedure we should use with it in order to help us get the the truth

 

[muscle96ss]

Me not enderstan errogant, is that maybe like can't here?
Wait I'll ask MH, no worries

Just more childish assclownery. Jim, how many times have you said that you are done with this thread and leaving? Yet, you are such an assclown that you can't stay away and instead have to post up a bunch of sarcastic bullshit to antagonize everybody so we can add another 30 pages of nothing new to this thread.

 

[mands]

So are other gh suppliers not subject to scrutiny because they don't claim they manufacture gh themselves or is there something else?

Now that Jim has basically given the green light for Astros gh who's to say Astro won't just switch to a cheaper and less pure gh in the future. Or maybe his gh supplier will switch it up on him. Will he be liable for supplying his own testing and analysis?

What steps should be taken and provided to the community from UGL's who carry and sell non pharm gh?

mands

 

[brutus79]

How u feeling jb ? Workouts going good? I did 10x10 yesterday with legs. No walking today lol

Squats/extensions? That is murderous!

 

[brutus79]

So are other gh suppliers not subject to scrutiny because they don't claim they manufacture gh themselves or is there something else?

Now that Jim has basically given the green light for Astros gh who's to say Astro won't just switch to a cheaper and less pure gh in the future. Or maybe his gh supplier will switch it up on him. Will he be liable for supplying his own testing and analysis?

What steps should be taken and provided to the community from UGL's who carry and sell non pharm gh?

mands

Manufacturers and remailers are under completely different guidelines... this whole thread is a shitshow becausr karl claimed to have invested millions in a gh manufacturing plant and he is lying. Thats all anyone is trying to make obvious- he is not manufacturing pharm gh... he is remailing shitty generic.

I thought everyone knew that's what jim is disputing? The only thing karl is manufacturing is lies and labels.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

I PMed Dr Jim, and other members, if you have any idea I'll cooperate, Dr Jim of course replied with "FUCK YOU" I mean literally "FUCK YOU", he's a funny dud

LOL. He's learning.

 

[Western-Biotech]

Brutus -
First your distinction between a remailer and a manufactirer doesn't make any sense or contribution to the members here - so based on what u say a remailer has all the privilege to not control the quality, not apply any QA measures and send bunk all day and get your blessing.....

anyhow I've offered and still offering any way to confirm or dispute my claim, you have my cooperation, I offered cross testing, I offered to conduct an open communication with my lab and expert to get all the details and have our explanation on any issue, I posted our preliminar tests, and will post more comprehensive tests on the batch to come, I posted in advance the full explanation and specification on the tests we'll run, and they actually match Dr's Jim expectations.

I offered to pay for testing, and have encouraged every customers to post

If you have any other ideas I'm here, but I know you just talk, and mostly BS

 

[brutus79]

Brutus -
First your distinction between a remailer and a manufactirer doesn't make any sense or contribution to the members here - so based on what u say a remailer has all the privilege to not control the quality, not apply any QA measures and send bunk all day and get your blessing.....

anyhow I've offered and still offering any way to confirm or dispute my claim, you have my cooperation, I offered cross testing, I offered to conduct an open communication with my lab and expert to get all the details and have our explanation on any issue, I posted our preliminar tests, and will post more comprehensive tests on the batch to come, I posted in advance the full explanation and specification on the tests we'll run, and they actually match Dr's Jim expectations.

I offered to pay for testing, and have encouraged every customers to post

If you have any other ideas I'm here, but I know you just talk, and mostly BS

All right hotshot- where the fuck are the mass spec results for every step of your process for every batch? You must have terabytes of data from the inception of your "lab" to both ensure machinery was and continues to be working properly by producing quality product... but you are remailing, so you don't have it. Douchebag.

This is the 100th time you have been asked for proof of manufacturing quality control... I know english isn't your first language, but surely you understand that the smart thing to do is simply admit you remail and relabel generic gh.
A remailer cannot control anything but how fast he ships... he is at the mercy of manufacturers- but at least we can simply be satisfies with end user serum tests and mass specs- which is all you (a remailer) can produce... requests for others to do the testing.

Those lab pics are nice for your summer home on the Gaza strip, but here in the states we expect labs to look different. More "lab-like" if you will. The only millions you have invested is in your own time trying to convince people who kbow better that pouring syrup on shit does not make pancakes. You know- you can't polish a turd? You can't fix immigrant stupid? Someone get me an Israeli interpreter- I'm not getting my point across!

 

[Western-Biotech]

I said very clearly that mess spec will be posted soon, and it's done on the new batch. Now tell me pls - tell me really - what is the mess spec for ? tell me pls what the mess spec will tell that SEC for instance not ?! enlighten us pls

Comment - I said we do HPLC for every step,

Again - mess spec will be posted as a fact, and as a fact you'll be able to compare any random order to it, I may post it in advance, or we may wait for your testings, and do cross testing

 

[Western-Biotech]

And Brutus, pls show me one GH supplier who submitted mess spec and a valid one ? lets start with one GH supplier who submitted any test ?!

I posted SDS-page, SEC and biological assay tests. I specified last week which tests we'll run on the new batch, and this set correlates perfectly to USP/parallel standards, and I will

Each time that u post nonsense or childish curses u simply express impotent to show any valid data or prove any of your claims, so pls ....

 

[muscle96ss]

Jim, why don't you just take Karl up on his offer to talk with his professor and then we can end this thread once and for all? Logic dictates that Karl would not offer up his professor and follow through if the end result would make him look bad, would you not agree? So call his bluff and arrange to talk with his professor and if the talk in facts happens, then you can come back to this thread and post all the details on what a sham it is. So doc, why do you keep avoiding the simple and easy solution? What are you afraid of? Lets quit antagonizing and end this shit once and for all!!

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

And Brutus, pls show me one GH supplier who submitted mess spec and a valid one ? lets start with one GH supplier who submitted any test ?!

I posted SDS-page, SEC and biological assay tests. I specified last week which tests we'll run on the new batch, and this set correlates perfectly to USP/parallel standards, and I will

Each time that u post nonsense or childish curses u simply express impotent to show any valid data or prove to any of your claims

You are known across the community as a lying sack of shit, though you're too arrogant to realize it.. You are a known scammer with quite the swindling past.. Your at the end if your rope, I and others believe this will be your last big money grab.. Ain't happening here brotato, not fucking here..