Western-BioTech - Pharma quality GH

[Masters Power]

Pharm GH only please.

What are you aiding and abetting K now wanting me to try and test his GH AGAIN.

C'mon Jim be a gamer.

Karl has assured everyone that no more than 20% of his GH users suffered an allergic reaction and that he has his "erogent" professor under control now. "New batch" should be GTG and if it isn't I'm sure we can convince Karl to gladly repay you on Tuesday.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

Showing my age this brings to mind an old cartoon series were a gent would offer to gladly repay you on Tuesday for a hamburger today in every episode.

 

[tileguy123]

Is the new batch out yet? lol

 

[dnml]

I have no idea what the current batch of Taitropin is testing at. However, there have been various serum tests done over the past couple of years with Taitropin that I have seen and not 1 of them has been impressive. Here is what does not make sense. Jim does a test of Karl's GH that tests out great and tells everybody to avoid it because of Karl's past and because he does not trust Karl. Then he does a test of Taitropin Chinese generic GH and suggests people to check it out, yet ignoring its checkered past of being underdosed and inconsistent. Please tell me there is not a bias here.

This threw me for a loop as well... Maybe one of us who doesn't have the pleasure of being ignored by Jimbo yet can repost... What's with pushing Taitropin? When his own tests showed mands vial to be quality? (Please don't argue that last sentence, Jim said it multiple times, end of story and that's not the point here)

 

[dnml]

Is suggest members have a look at "Taitropin" online bc I was provided a sample by a Meso member and the purity was quite good especially considering the amount of GH / vial 4.3mg almost DOUBLED that which was detected in Ks vials at 2.2 mg!

What does the latter mean? I really don't know bc I'm not familiar with cost/IU comparisons in both brands AND I'm also unaware whether "Tait"
has similar side effects as "Ks GH".

Regardless I can't imagine any company more FUS than Karl, and that's worth a hell of a lot IMO!

Yes it's generic!

Great, now prove you're unbiased by producing every test you've asked for on these vials with the Taitropin ones. Every.... single.... one

 

[old bro]

This threw me for a loop as well... Maybe one of us who doesn't have the pleasure of being ignored by Jimbo yet can repost... What's with pushing Taitropin? When his own tests showed mands vial to be quality? (Please don't argue that last sentence, Jim said it multiple times, end of story and that's not the point here)

You an me both howd tait get into the mix lol. But nice to finally hear some positives on any gh at this point in the thread.

 

[Western-Biotech]

The pretension of a presence of 2.2mg or 1.86mg in the GH vials by Soma is less then ridiculous, numerous serum tests of 25-30 have proven the declared content is present.

My professor raised few severe questions on the AA counting there, with no reply.

 

[Western-Biotech]

Dr. Jim claims or instruction of weighing the content of thew vials as a home test is also ridiculous, as most of the content of the vial is in fact not GH ????

As another comment - even if a protein (AA count) is this or that it still doesn't prove it's GH of course

Follow the very actual DR Jim tests on my GH incl' the SEC and mess spec to learn on the purity of the GH content

 

[graniteman]

Yes customers have got it, and as some here suggested they're terrorized by other members here and prefer to keep the info and opinion in the circles they feel comfortable with , I may quote PMs and mails, and Millard may confirm this,

I also begged for serum tests, especially IGF1 tests, and waiting for updates,

The new batch will be dispatched in 2-3 weeks, and we'll have more opinions as a fact.

You may check out the feedback from my customers along the thread as well

I still find it unbelievable you want people to spend their money on tests to help your sales, while you have yet to submit your tests? It's not believable that you run in the circles you say you run in and do not have immediate access to gc\ms testing

 

[graniteman]

I have no idea what the current batch of Taitropin is testing at. However, there have been various serum tests done over the past couple of years with Taitropin that I have seen and not 1 of them has been impressive. Here is what does not make sense. Jim does a test of Karl's GH that tests out great and tells everybody to avoid it because of Karl's past and because he does not trust Karl. Then he does a test of Taitropin Chinese generic GH and suggests people to check it out, yet ignoring its checkered past of being underdosed and inconsistent. Please tell me there is not a bias here.

I also have heard good things on the Taitropins

 

[Mr.Bravo]

Graniteman this guy is a totally out of line and I agree with you 100 percent. I asked for the amino acid sequence where the fuck is it karl?

 

[Mr.Bravo]

Karl hasnt proved that he can or would be able to keep up with demand, so that leads me to believe its only a matter of time till someone gets fucked.
Buyer beware

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

I still find it unbelievable you want people to spend their money on tests to help your sales, while you have yet to submit your tests? It's not believable that you run in the circles you say you run in and do not have immediate access to gc\ms testing

Oh but check this out, he says here he has his own HPLC and tests every step yet can't show ANYTHING!! hahaha

If u like I may take pictures of the professor next to the HPLC with which we test each step in the manufacturing, and you may see the print out etc, colone with gel ... everything..

One of probably well over 100 lies he's told in this thread..

 

[graniteman]

Oh but check this out, he says here he has his own HPLC and tests every step yet can't show ANYTHING!! hahaha
One of probably well over 100 lies he's told in this thread..

Karl should have thought or at least read up on bio facilities. How can a company manufacture aspirin let alone GH without on site testing.
Does he make a batch send it out for testing...waiting...wait.. then it comes back impure or just a bad batch. Does he just toss the batch and start over..or dump it on people...lol
Just seems like a shitty biz plan to invest million sinto

Karl hasnt proved that he can or would be able to keep up with demand, so that leads me to believe its only a matter of time till someone gets fucked.
Buyer beware

One batch at a time.... it's all he could fit in his Gramma's basement.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

Karl should have thought or at least read up on bio facilities. How can a company manufacture aspirin let alone GH without on site testing.
Does he make a batch send it out for testing...waiting...wait.. then it comes back impure or just a bad batch.

That's been the biggest issue in this thread. Despite Karl's many deflections, obfuscations and red herrings, he has not been able to overcome that problem. Karl is asking us to just accept that he was able to make GH that not only rivals that of the world's biggest pharm companies, but actually surpassed it, WITHOUT having a single test to guide him along the way.

The only thing more ridiculous than Karl's story are the people in this thread who still believe it's entirely possible that Karl is manufacturing GH.

 

[Dr JIM]

Karl should have thought or at least read up on bio facilities. How can a company manufacture aspirin let alone GH without on site testing.

Just seems like a shitty biz plan to invest million into

One batch at a time.... it's all he could fit in his Gramma's basement.

GM we have had our differences on other topics, BUT in this particular thread our agreement seems to approach 100%!

Nice to have another mate who hasn't lost their sense of objectively bc of K's incessant BS. Why that SOB seems to have acquired quite a few pointers from David at GETM, or perhaps is it the antithesis.

Fact is, this thread once again establishes the truth behind the colloquialism "birds of feather folk together" !


Regards
Jim

 

[Dr JIM]

That's been the biggest issue in this thread. Despite Karl's many deflections, obfuscations and red herrings, he has not been able to overcome that problem. Karl is asking us to just accept that he was able to make GH that not only rivals that of the world's biggest pharm companies, but actually surpassed it, WITHOUT having a single test to guide him along the way.

The only thing more ridiculous than Karl's story are the people in this thread who still believe it's entirely possible that Karl is manufacturing GH.

Hey now you wait one minute Mr Buster CBS! Who do you think you are "challenging JIMS TESTS" fella! We all know "I'm an honest businessman, my reputation speaks for itself"

Why it's also an established fact even the tests I've posted we not necessary, but I do these sorts of things for Meso members bc they have been confused by a big cats like you.

I've challenged everyone here to try my product and test (it for me so I don't have to) it two, cause that way everyone knows its better than pharm grade.

That means I make it myself for sure and I know we agree to that!

So lets stopage this nonsense MR fella about my lab tests. You knoiw I've done these silly things and anyone can review the excellnt results at the earlier portions of my thread.

And don't let that Dr ? Jim confuse these younger mates bc he doesn't even know about "SDS" (Sodium Dodecyl Sulfate or Sensory Deficit Syndrome). Oh yea and that JIM also lied bc first he says his tests are the best and now he says his tests are not any good.

I'm surprised people cant see what he trying to do whit this garbage, he's trying to make me spend more monies for tests that are NOT needed or repeat those I've done already.
He is very tricky guy and I know he not like me from the beginning bc he didnt like my best employees MH! And yes that made me very mad. How can he treat MH lke he does, that why I like the better forum like PM.

Finally I know my technical guys and professors are the best in the field! They have experimented on many things like steak enzymes in test tubes, a few things that are working alive and one professor is in the process of getting his certificate to works on human tissue!!!

So I'm tired of hearing all this BS from those few on Meso you have agendas or dont like me bc we should be fair and lets give people a chance to try and test my product.

This is ALL I ask and we all agree this is true from the beginning!
So please lets be honest now!!!

Respects
Karlie

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

Hey now you wait one minute Mr Buster CBS! Who do you think you are "challenging JIMS TESTS" fella! We all know "I'm an honest businessman, my reputation speaks for itself"

Why it's also an established fact even the tests I've posted we not necessary, but I do these sorts of things for Meso members bc they have been confused by a big cats like you.

I've challenged everyone here to try my product and test (it for me so I don't have to) it two, cause that way everyone knows its better than pharm grade.

That means I make it myself for sure and I know we agree to that!

So lets stopage this nonsense MR fella about my lab tests. You knoiw I've done these silly things and anyone can review the excellnt results at the earlier portions of my thread.

And don't let that Dr ? Jim confuse these younger mates bc he doesn't even know about "SDS" (Sodium Dodecyl Sulfate or Sensory Deficit Syndrome). Oh yea and that JIM also lied bc first he says his tests are the best and now he says his tests are not any good.

I'm surprised people cant see what he trying to do whit this garbage, he's trying to make me spend more monies for tests that are NOT needed or repeat those I've done already.
He is very tricky guy and I know he not like me from the beginning bc he didnt like my best employees MH! And yes that made me very mad. How can he treat MH lke he does, that why I like the better forum like PM.

Finally I know my technical guys and professors are the best in the field! They have experimented on many things like steak enzymes in test tubes, a few things that are working alive and one professor is in the process of getting his certificate to works on human tissue!!!

So I'm tired of hearing all this BS from those few on Meso you have agendas or dont like me bc we should be fair and lets give people a chance to try and test my product.

This is ALL I ask and we all agree this is true from the beginning!
So please lets be honest now!!!

Respects
Karlie

just go away and stop you blabla, i dont care of this, i have everydays people telling me that you approach them, trying to resell your 'kitchen made' oil [)]

i dont care of this , but posting bullshit here , to give more weitghs to your speech is intolerable ..

I know how you play with people mind with your smart speechs, and how your tuning conversations in your side ..

you should make your own thread about your personal bizness

-And dont call me my friend ,you said enough shit untill now -I maybe looks arrogant,there is some true there, i just went mad when i saw all these BS, from a ''friend"..

The real Karl

 

[Dr JIM]

Me not enderstan errogant, is that maybe like can't here?
Wait I'll ask MH, no worries

 

[Western-Biotech]

I could never imagine that such a repeated set of lies and baseless claims may prevail anywhere, even in this forum, anyhow and for anyone who's just joined this thread I'll summarize the facts against the lies

I submitted our tests immediately at the beginning of the thread, they includes SDS-page, SEC test and biological assay tests, I specified the tests and the explanation to them time after time, Dr Jim's test confirmed our results as a fact. I may submit the test again, anyhow they appear a couple of times along the thread, anyone may contact me and get them, anyone is more then welcome to make cross tests by any anonymous order and confirm our SDS, SEC and biological assay tests. I showed pictures of our quality assurance devices BTW, and anyone may send any sample to me, let me test it immediately and compare to the test he may make to learn about our analytical abilities.
We offered wider variety of tests to the new batch to come, just like u asked, and I'll post them, these are tests from our facility, and I begged openly and behind the scenes to make cross tests by anonymous orders or whatever system u like to to confirm our test's validity, damn I even offered to make on line anonymous conversation with my professor to get to the root of issue or claim.
WELL I'VE GOT ZERO COOPERATION - THE REASON FOR THIS IS THAT DR JIM AS WELL AS ANY OF HIS FOLLOWERS SIMPLY KNOWS THAT SUCH WILL PROVE THAT WE DO MAKE PHARMA QUALITY GH JUST LIKE I STATED - IF NOT THEY WOULD BE GLAD TO TEST ME DON'T U THINK ? WHY NOT COOPERATE WITH MY VERY PRODUCTIVE AND GENEROUS OFFER AND MAKE CROSS TESTS ? MAYBE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T REFUTE MY CLAIMS ? MAYBE THEY'RE TOO IMPOTENT TO TAKE ANY PRODUCTIVE REAL AND VALID STEP TO PROVE THEIR NONSENSE LIES SO IT'S MORE COMFORTABLE TO POST BULLSHIT ?!

No worries - we will get this way or the other the cooperation and will test my claims and my product, as ppl, at least most of them, do care for the truth.
You have never got such cooperation from a supplier, who have and will prove each and every detail in the QA section, go to the Chinese fuckers and ask for one honest test and such daily basis cooperation ...

SO FAR ANY TEST DONE CONFIRMED THE QUALITY WE DECLARE ON ! PERIOD, MORE TO FOLLOW