Western-BioTech - Pharma quality GH

Why do you think i originally asked you for pictures of the fermentors, and am asking for them now? Because they are readily identifiable to someone who knows what they are looking at, and you can't just google it and post up the images.

Additionally, there are enough jacketed fermentors out there in the world that posting a picture of yours will not identify you. And what is this "especially with this bacteria" jive? E. coli is the organism of choice for producing all sorts of biologics, give me a break Karl. It's easy to work with and manipulate its DNA to make it produce your desired product. The fermentor configuration is not organism specific anyway.



Gotta start somewhere. Start there.

For all i know, you've turned over a new leaf, found god and decided to be a good guy. I sincerely hope so, for the sake of all your customers.

He won't, he's full of fucking shit which is why he wants to post a pic of a HPLC!!
 
Instead of providing what you asked for we wants to post a MORE incriminating pic of the actual "professor" standing next to the HPLC!!! Anyone else catch that??

Lightspan - I would like not to post pics of the fermentors - as it'll reveal our identity. f u insist I will think of some ideas.

These are quite unique equipment, especially with this bacteria, as less then few places deal with it, pics may be faked silly, so pls

If u like I may take pictures of the professor next to the HPLC with which we test each step in the manufacturing, and you may see the print out etc, colone with gel ... everything..

U guys honestly talk too much, I bring a product, what's the drama ? ! lets test it, check it, talk about the testings, about the process, whatever ... lets concentrate on the important issues for u ... pls
 
Guy's!!! Flesner is correct there are no guarantees for success with all the variables stated. The best we can do is see if there is actually a product that contains what they state it is. If so just keep buying pharm grade GH. That's what I will do if this doesn't work out.

lightspan do you buy directly form Karl or use his products?

Also, lightspan... Yes he would be finished here and other boards that I am a member at. My word does carry weight and if shit goes bad it will get around quickly. So, he is taking a big chance here.

mands
Mands, mands, mands. I am very sorry for my opinion here, but I feel like there are a lot of smoke and mirrors (bullshit) in the air right now.

You will ruin Karl here and at other boards if shit goes bad? Why didn't you feel that obligation with Bio? You did the EXACT same thing with Bio... you were thread #1 endorsing his shit... and you might say you didn't flat out ENDORSE his stuff, but my issue is you are playing the same game of semantics here. When shit went down with bio I don't believe you "ruined" them- mayne a quick post blah, blah, blah don't buy- but when you say ruined I think of what CBS did to stretch in that thread- is that what you are pledging? Did you post on any other boards about bio either?

Why are you circumventing Colts question about mass spec vs serum? Why are you even posting the serum test if you recommend do not buy until mass spec? None of this sits well with me.
 
Lightspan - I ddin't refer to E coli which u may find on your skin, I referree to the engineered bacteria with the GH implanted in its DNA,

Again and I may explain to u off line why I'm concerned specifically from my fermentor if u show the right attitude. You may speculate as I work in a specific country, I mean you should know
I said earlier and say again - it's ridiculous to rely on a picture - rely on feedback and tests.
I'll try to show some insteresting things which can't risk me this weekend

Jhonnyballz - if you have no clue in this issue, better sit silent, and let my product fail in testing insteaed of posting nonsense which really doesn't contribute to anyone here
 
I suggest you guys arrange an independent mess spec ASAP, it's really better to rely on it just like I posted, though the serum tests will prove the basics
 
Lightspan - I ddin't refer to E coli which u may find on your skin, I referree to the engineered bacteria with the GH implanted in its DNA,

Again and I may explain to u off line why I'm concerned specifically from my fermentor if u show the right attitude. You may speculate as I work in a specific country, I mean you should know
I said earlier and say again - it's ridiculous to rely on a picture - rely on feedback and tests.
I'll try to show some insteresting things which can't risk me this weekend

Jhonnyballz - if you have no clue in this issue, better sit silent, and let my product fail in testing insteaed of posting nonsense which really doesn't contribute to anyone here
Johnny doesn't have to be quiet- this is Meso. Let me invite you to shut the fuck up.... maybe you would have better luck peddling gh on the gaza strip. You speak their language, right?
I suggest you guys arrange an independent mess spec ASAP, it's really better to rely on it just like I posted, though the serum tests will prove the basics
 
I sure hope nobody from meso is dropping funds anywhere near this as yet. Seems like Karl has some work to do
 
The proof will be in the product in the end, let's not judge on what we think and past experiences. We'll know soon enough so save your energy and be happy there maybe a new potential GH supplier to choose from soon.
 
The proof will be in the product in the end, let's not judge on what we think and past experiences. We'll know soon enough so save your energy and be happy there maybe a new potential GH supplier to choose from soon.
Are you saying that if he fucked people before we should let it not matter in hopes of a new gh source? Fucking idiot. If a pedophile raped a few kids he isn't gonna watch mine because his raping was in the past and he has a cheap hourly rate- maybe you would let him watch yours.
 
The proof will be in the product in the end, let's not judge on what we think and past experiences. We'll know soon enough so save your energy and be happy there maybe a new potential GH supplier to choose from soon.

Fuck you Cobra, I like you man but just because you didn't have to get a $4000 gyno surgery bill because of bunk ancillaries he should be given a chance??

AND WAY UNDERDOSED TEST E which I've posted labs on.
 
Mands, mands, mands. I am very sorry for my opinion here, but I feel like there are a lot of smoke and mirrors (bullshit) in the air right now.

You will ruin Karl here and at other boards if shit goes bad? Why didn't you feel that obligation with Bio? You did the EXACT same thing with Bio... you were thread #1 endorsing his shit... and you might say you didn't flat out ENDORSE his stuff, but my issue is you are playing the same game of semantics here. When shit went down with bio I don't believe you "ruined" them- mayne a quick post blah, blah, blah don't buy- but when you say ruined I think of what CBS did to stretch in that thread- is that what you are pledging? Did you post on any other boards about bio either?

Why are you circumventing Colts question about mass spec vs serum? Why are you even posting the serum test if you recommend do not buy until mass spec? None of this sits well with me.

Brutus to answer your question I did tell everyone to stay away from bio you can go look up threads and see for yourself. I also did not have to do more than that as my man CBS, Dr Jim, JB and a few others did. I also told anyone that PM'ed me to stay away from bio. And for the record bio's shit was good and I ran a cycle log with it. A lot of UGls go bad that is not my fault sir.

I did mention on other boards about bio especially when PC came to the den with it. I notified two mods as well.

And to answer your other question I will repeat I went ahead and added a serum test to my total testosterone test I was getting. I haven't posted it and I have honestly thought about not and wait for the ms/hplc test.

Anything else sir!?

And if you were sorry for what you wrote you should of given me the respect I deserve and took it to PM, guess I know where we stand.

mands
 
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Brutus to answer your question I did tell everyone to stay away from bio you can go look up threads and see for yourself. I also did not have to do more than that as my man CBS, Dr Jim, JB and a few others did. I also told anyone that PM'ed me to stay away from bio. And for the record bio's shit was good and I ran a cycle log with it. A lot of UGls go bad that is not my fault sir.

I did mention on other boards about bio especially when PC came to the den with it. I notified two mods as well.

And to answer your other question I will repeat I went ahead and added a serum test to my total testosterone test I was getting. I haven't posted it and I have honestly thought about not and wait for the ms/hplc test.

Anything else sir!?

And if you were sorry for what you wrote you should of given me the respect I deserve and took it to PM, guess I know where we stand.

mands
Honestly mands- we stand right where I stand with everyone else I have respect with- right out in the open. I handle nothing by pm... I think it runs counter to what a completely uncensored forum is about. I didn't do it out of disrespect or belligerence but I see it was taken that way; I am just concerned when I see what I perceive to be possible patterns and I want to be very clear about your statements and motives. If I didn't respect you I would have handled it differently for sure... sorry if that puts us on bad terms.
 
Sorry about the "fuck you" if you didn't know..

I just saw you post in the Astro thread about GH so I understand you were hopeful if you were looking.

No biggie, I'd be furious if I were you too. Now that you say that, might be the reason my PCT didn't go that well in the past when I had their ancillaries. But never had an issue with their AAS. That was a while ago though.
 
Brutus I took at as you were calling me out and that you have some ill intensions towards me I was not aware of. I believe, I clearly stated my intentions and you putting me on blast to try an prove a point or discredit what I do, have done, and will continue to do for this community in your post could of definitely gone to PM. You saying you don't handle things in PM is a bullshit. Sorry!

mands
 
And Brutus like I told JB we are all entitled to our opinion here. We can disagree on a whole lot of shit. And if we didn't we would be sheep and not shepherds

mands
 
So I won't be able to send off a vial until a couple more weeks. I did get my results back from the serum test yesterday. I also have had request via PM to post up results.

Testing protocol was 10ius IM injection in left shoulder at 9:45am Wednesday. Appointment was and 11:45 and labcorp got me right in. Results were a serum level of 25.1

I would say this is a good start. I would still recommend waiting for myself or someone else to get these mass spec tested. I did decide to post these for the community as some have requested for me to do so.

mands
 

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