Western-BioTech - Pharma quality GH

@mands I didn't mean that to sound like an accusation. Sorry it came out like that. I did know Jim was the tester, and assumed (without reading it) it came from what was posted on PM.

No worries. I never told anyone directly but muscle96ss via conversation about Jim. And this was before Jim told me not to mention anything. I should of told Jim I mentioned his name to muscle96ss but I failed to do that. I should have. My conversations in private should not be brought up in public in my opinion no matter if you are trying to prove a point. Very disappointed to say the least. If you think info not brought forth for safety reasons is deception then blame me not anyone else.

mands
 
No worries. I never told anyone directly but muscle96ss via conversation about Jim. And this was before Jim told me not to mention anything. I should of told Jim I mentioned his name to muscle96ss but I failed to do that. I should have. My conversations in private should not be brought up in public in my opinion no matter if you are trying to prove a point. Very disappointed to say the least. If you think info not brought forth for safety reasons is deception then blame me not anyone else.

mands

Sorry, I have kept him out of it for a long time but cannot take his bullshit anymore; he is completely out of control. I also fired a warning shot and he said to go ahead and post away because he has nothing to hide. If he wants to treat people this way and then challenge them, then that is his problem. The guy is nothing but an egotistical assclown who makes Meso look bad. Seriously, look at the circus he created.
 
So if I inject it and get a lump after every inject and my wife injects from the same vial yet does not get a lump, then how could it be infected? I have also shot the previous batch IM and did not get an abcess. How come the lump goes away after a couple of days if it is infected? How come I have no other signs of infection? How come so many people report red lumps with Kefei? Trust me, the lumps are an issue and should not happen; but I am positive it has nothing to do with sterility and that it has nothing to do with the quality of the API.

I can't speak for what yo uare pinning. i myself have NEVER had these issues and am running rips, yes that cheap chinese crap! and have absolutely no irritation or redness at site. I never had with any gh.
I just said how, unless you are involved with K could you possibly know? Trust you? Are you a rep, again how could you possibly know this. You having a kit from him doesn't exclude it being dirty. Yo uyourself say whoever is making this doesn't have a clue?
 
Would you care to elaborate. It seems like there is some shady stuff going on behind peoples back.

Elaborate, no he wouldn't (but I already have) bc some things said in private should remain that way!

Hmm some "shady stuff", that's like the cat calling the kettle black, LMAO!

Your a damn self serving shill MH!
 
Stop reporting the purity was 99.5% K! It was not and I have the HPLCs that refute that claim.

One things for sure none of the tests you conducted were even close to 95%!

When is the AA and Trypsin peptide sequence analysis due to arrive K?

Yep I also have that for comparison, so let's stop this bullshit!

I've ALWAYS had one interest and that's to ensure the GH you or anyone else is selling is GTG. MH if you believe you have any evidence that refutes that comment post that also!

One more thing MH this GH thing is a crusade for me bc anaphylaxis, although quite rare, can happen.

I've first hand experience with that VERY ISSUE, and that loved one of mine suffered severe adverse effects!

Jim

This is a problem then. Mands posted all over the boards it was 99.5% pure. What's the real story then?
 
Elaborate, no he wouldn't (but I already have) bc some things said in private should remain that way!

Hmm some "shady stuff", that's like the cat calling the kettle black, LMAO!

Your a damn self serving shill MH!

Wow, this is unfucking believable; you are a complete idiot and assclown. You guys sit here and talk about how great this uncensored Meso is and slam other boards like AB and PM. Yet you have this little click who behind the scenes is hiding information in private and just as corrupt as the other censored boards you bash. In addition, this brings up a good point that IM touched upon. That is you have a group of people claiming Karius's stuff is bunk yet they haven't even got a mass spec in over 2 months supposedly because they can't find a lab; yet they have one in their own back pocket. This combined with the fact that nobody seems so concerned about what just happened here suggests some severe credibilty issues on the part of Meso. Whether its censored or uncensored there is still stuff going on behind the scenes that is driven by an agenda, plain and simple.
 
I can't speak for what yo uare pinning. i myself have NEVER had these issues and am running rips, yes that cheap chinese crap! and have absolutely no irritation or redness at site. I never had with any gh.
I just said how, unless you are involved with K could you possibly know? Trust you? Are you a rep, again how could you possibly know this. You having a kit from him doesn't exclude it being dirty. Yo uyourself say whoever is making this doesn't have a clue?

First of all, I am a rep for Karl just as much as you are a rep for Karius; so don't accuse me of something you darn well know is not true. Secondly, read my previous response again; it doesn't take a very high IQ to understand that if it was dirty there would be an INFECTION involved. There is no INFECTION!!! Not a single person has reported an infection from the stuff. Also if you read what I wrote, I stated that lumps are NOT normal and should not be present and is not acceptable. I personally cannot and will not use a GH that causes me lumps. I am not an analytical chemist and have no idea what reaction is taking place to cause the lumps, but being dirty has already been ruled out.
 
Would you care to elaborate. It seems like there is some shady stuff going on behind peoples back.
Shady stuff, maybe. Everyone here acts paranoid as hell, and just posting a few labmax pics can result in the most outrageous accusations. My mistake was to assume the location of the lab was in mands' post on PM.
 
wah wah waaaah... lmao... karma buddy
While myself and Jim have our differences this kind of betrayal is total bullshit and for you to laugh about it is just as bad. You just don't post shit openly like that, friend or enemy. IMO what mands did IF true was pretty fucking low , someone who would do that is not trustworthy , period. Mands if you can't keep shit confidential how can anyone trust your word on anything. telling someone else even in pm is a violation of trust
This shit is out in the open now.
 
While myself and Jim have our differences this kind of betrayal is total bullshit and for you to laugh about it is just as bad. You just don't post shit openly like that, friend or enemy. IMO what mands did IF true was pretty fucking low , someone who would do that is not trustworthy , period. Mands if you can't keep shit confidential how can anyone trust your word on anything. telling someone else even in pm is a violation of trust
This shit is out in the open now.
GM I just wrote I told muscle96ss before Jim told me he didn't want his named involved for safety reasons. I replied to you over at TID as well.

Did you skip that part when I stated the above?

mands
 
This is a problem then. Mands posted all over the boards it was 99.5% pure. What's the real story then?
This is what I was told and that's what I reported. Just as I posted that it indeed was GH from the tests that were preformed.

mands
 
While myself and Jim have our differences this kind of betrayal is total bullshit and for you to laugh about it is just as bad. You just don't post shit openly like that, friend or enemy. IMO what mands did IF true was pretty fucking low , someone who would do that is not trustworthy , period. Mands if you can't keep shit confidential how can anyone trust your word on anything. telling someone else even in pm is a violation of trust
This shit is out in the open now.


I am confused, Dr. Jim says that everybody already knew that he did the testing. Flenser states that it was assumed that Dr. Jim did the testing and thought that others new. Dr. Jim states that it was discussed privately; yet somehow you are pointing the finger at mands because Dr. Jim's cover is blown? Mands simply stated it to me a couple weeks before he even sent the items in. I don't think he thought it was a big deal as nobody expected was ensued to happen.
 
GM I just wrote I told muscle96ss before Jim told me he didn't want his named involved for safety reasons. I replied to you over at TID as well.

Did you skip that part when I stated the above?

mands

Mands, none of that matters, while you may be above reproach here and PM, people need and want to know a guy with standing can be trusted , absolute, no if's and's or but's. You never take personal info or trusted info of that nature and go public. Even with a enemy, you should know this
 
I am still amazed here that everybody is throwing accusations at mands, at me, and all over the place when Dr. Jim should be the one everything should be directed at. Just goes to show that corruption can happen on an uncensored forum as well.
 
I am confused, Dr. Jim says that everybody already knew that he did the testing. Flenser states that it was assumed that Dr. Jim did the testing and thought that others new. Dr. Jim states that it was discussed privately; yet somehow you are pointing the finger at mands because Dr. Jim's cover is blown? Mands simply stated it to me a couple weeks before he even sent the items in. I don't think he thought it was a big deal as nobody expected was ensued to happen.

Apparently you guys operate under a different code. No problem if you're comfortable with that. Personally I'm under the impression things done in confidentiality are kept confidential unless the guy himself speaks up or implicit permission is given.
I was just interested in this pharm grade , actually above pharm grade, gh. But not anymore
 
Mands, none of that matters, while you may be above reproach here and PM, people need and want to know a guy with standing can be trusted , absolute, no if's and's or but's. You never take personal info or trusted info of that nature and go public. Even with a enemy, you should know this
Please elaborate for me? How can I not be trusted? His name was never mentioned to anyone but muscles96ss before I was told he didn't want his name involved. I could of easily brought it out on this thread when JIM was doing what he does but I did not as I promised him I wouldn't. That should show you right there I can be trusted. I could of used our emails against what he was saying to prove him wrong but I DID NOT.

mands
 
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