Western-BioTech - Pharma quality GH

[ItalianMuscle27]

Your HPLC's were mass specs, dummy!

Any time, any place, anywhere.

Prove my tests were fake. You cant..because you know they are real. Again, more bullshit coming out of your fat fucking mouth..

As for the IQ test,I called you out and your bluff. Name the place..Or, you just going to run your mouth like every one else on here?

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

How do you know he reported the tests accurately?

Because they were FAVORABLE to Karl! If he had an agenda to discredit Karl, he could have doctored the tests. I can't believe we are even discussing this!

You tell me to stop intellectualizing the thread but that is EXACTLY what this thread lacks.

 

[Dr JIM]

Please elaborate for me? How can I not be trusted? His name was never mentioned to anyone but muscles96ss before I was told he didn't want his name involved. I could of easily brought it out on this thread when JIM was doing what he does but I did not as I promised him I wouldn't. That should show you right there I can be trusted. I could of used our emails against what he was saying to prove him wrong but I DID NOT.

mands

MANDS it's quite clear now you USED me to sells Karl's GH. If I would have know that was your intent I would have never performed the tests.

It's also obvious you told this stoolie you call a friend I would be performing the tests in spite of making it CLEAR AS DAY that info was not to be released under any circumstance and FROM the very beginning I emphasized that provision!

These facts have become more clear with time, such as why did you show some nobody like MH our EMAILS? Those emails were private scientific discussions between you and I about a favor I was doing for YOU, and no one else.

Why did you post any information on PM about the lab which conducting the tests?

I know why now! To help K sell his damn GH.

In that process you lost an advocate who definitely believes
you can no longer be trusted!

Let me but it another way. You sold me out for pieces of shit like MH and for K's money!

Enjoy!

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

MANDS it's quite clear now you USED me to sells Karl's GH. If I would have know that was your intent I would have never performed the tests.

It's also obvious you told this stoolie you call a friend I would be performing the tests in spite of making it CLEAR AS DAY that info was not to be released under any circumstance and FROM the very beginning I emphasized that provision!

These facts have become more clear with time, such as why did you show some nobody like MH our EMAILS? Those emails were private scientific discussions between you and I about a favor I was doing for YOU, and no one else.

Why did you post any information on PM about the lab which conducting the tests?

I know why now! To help K sell his damn GH.

In that process you lost an advocate who definitely believes
you can no longer be trusted!

Let me but it another way. You sold me out for pieces of shit like MH and for K's money!

Enjoy!

Im so fucking glad this shit happen. Just to expose your sorry piece of shit ass, and the illegal tests you were performing at the University. You're a shady fuck, just as I suspected. Enjoy being outted and hopefully you lose your medical license. Hope it was worth it.. DOCTOR!

 

[dnml]

MANDS it's quite clear now you USED me to sells Karl's GH. If I would have know that was your intent I would have never performed the tests.

It's also obvious you told this stoolie you call a friend I would be performing the tests in spite of making it CLEAR AS DAY that info was not to be released under any circumstance and FROM the very beginning I emphasized that provision!

These facts have become more clear with time, such as why did you show some nobody like MH our EMAILS? Those emails were private scientific discussions between you and I about a favor I was doing for YOU, and no one else.

Why did you post any information on PM about the lab which conducting the tests?

I know why now! To help K sell his damn GH.

In that process you lost an advocate who definitely believes
you can no longer be trusted!

Let me but it another way. You sold me out for pieces of shit like MH and for K's money!

Enjoy!

That's weak. If this was mands goal he sure did a half assed job of it.

Personally I think you used this opportunity to sell your testing services. You're just pissed you proved one of your own biases wrong.

 

[Marcus]

Im so fucking glad this shit happen. Just to expose your sorry piece of shit ass, and the illegal tests you were performing at the University. You're a shady fuck, just as I suspected. Enjoy being outted and hopefully you lose your medical license. Hope it was worth it.. DOCTOR!

IM... You do realize that this has nothing to do with his medical license. He obviously would not partake in testing that would risk his career as a medical doctor. No fuckin doctor in the world would do that. There is too much risk. He has a connection to a university, like many docs... And the ability to order tests like most doctors. The universities who can perform these tests in the states would most likely not listen to regular joes like me trying to order a test on GH.

@Dr JIM isnt it possible that mands was being used by Karl as well? That he was asked by Karl to perform these tests and told he'd be compensated or something?

 

[dnml]

Because they were FAVORABLE to Karl! If he had an agenda to discredit Karl, he could have doctored the tests. I can't believe we are even discussing this!

You tell me to stop intellectualizing the thread but that is EXACTLY what this thread lacks.

That's some dangerous circular reasoning. "He tested properly because of the results."

So if the results had been different he would have tested. ... improperly? And that is your assertion, apparently his supporters even know he is a wild card.

Look under most circumstances we don't need to ask these questions- when someone pulls what Jim did, all bets are off.

But most important, his biased and jaded way of presenting the facts is just as bad as an incomplete or erroneous test.

So, do you really think Jim doesn't have an agenda to discredit Karl?! I don't think even Jim would agree with that!

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

IM... You do realize that this has nothing to do with his medical license. He obviously would not partake in testing that would risk his career as a medical doctor. No fuckin doctor in the world would do that. There is too much risk. He has a connection to a university, like many docs... And the ability to order tests like most doctors. The universities who can perform these tests in the states would most likely not listen to regular joes like me trying to order a test on GH.

@Dr JIM isnt it possible that mands was being used by Karl as well? That he was asked by Karl to perform these tests and told he'd be compensated or something?

So instead of putting his career on the line, he asks someone else to do the test for him and put their career on the line? LOL.. He was sent a HGH sample. And who knows what other illegal steroids were sent to him. Im guessing the ALP orals, that wont ever be tested now, because dr jim and his testing university were exposed. If there is so much risk, why is he even concerned about his identity being out there now for? He so much wants to be part of this bodybuilding community, and this was going to be his ticket to getting some respect. Not anymore.. It blew up in his face.. And I take great pleasure in LMFAO!!

 

[Dr JIM]

IM... You do realize that this has nothing to do with his medical license. He obviously would not partake in testing that would risk his career as a medical doctor. No fuckin doctor in the world would do that. There is too much risk. He has a connection to a university, like many docs... And the ability to order tests like most doctors. The universities who can perform these tests in the states would most likely not listen to regular joes like me trying to order a test on GH.

@Dr JIM isnt it possible that mands was being used by Karl as well? That he was asked by Karl to perform these tests and told he'd be compensated or something?

KARL makes every attempt to USE EVERYONE, and he is very successful at achieving that objective, just look at where this thread has gone.

And he's loving every minute of it, while guys on the boards "fight it out",

But in the end he will find some other stoolie to fight HIS BATTLES and sell his junk!

 

[mands]

MANDS it's quite clear now you USED me to sells Karl's GH. If I would have know that was your intent I would have never performed the tests.

It's also obvious you told this stoolie you call a friend I would be performing the tests in spite of making it CLEAR AS DAY that info was not to be released under any circumstance and FROM the very beginning I emphasized that provision!

These facts have become more clear with time, such as why did you show some nobody like MH our EMAILS? Those emails were private scientific discussions between you and I about a favor I was doing for YOU, and no one else.

Why did you post any information on PM about the lab which conducting the tests?

I know why now! To help K sell his damn GH.

In that process you lost an advocate who definitely believes
you can no longer be trusted!

Let me but it another way. You sold me out for pieces of shit like MH and for K's money!

Enjoy!

You sir are full of shit. You have now proved it on MESO and everywhere else. I have believed in you, backed you and supported you since day one on MESO.

I did not post your lab on PM Jesus Christ. I had a mod delete a post that mentioned I was having it tested at US university. And it was taken down because you were paranoid about your affiliation.

I told muscle96ss before you told me you didn't want to be involved. I didn't show him emails? I had a conversation with him over PM on MESO two weeks before you did the test. Hell if you could control your ego I could of just told him I went another route to protect you. I'm glad I didn't now.

I'm not trying to sell anything here or gain any kind of compensation from anyone. Are you? What was your agenda by questioning Karl so hard when you knew the sample I sent to you was from him and a anonymous buy and was legit GH? Are you pushing your lab for testing? I guarantee that will never happen on MESO now. That gig is up.

Don't turn this shit around on me. I didn't say your name ever in public and after you told me not to do so I never mentioned it again. You basically called yourself out because your arrogance.

Good luck! I guess I finally see what everyone else sees in you. Truly disappointing.

mands

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

Prove my tests were fake. You cant..because you know they are real. Again, more bullshit coming out of your fat fucking mouth..

I never said they were fake, I said they didn't prove what you said they did. I know it's hard but try to keep up, IM.

As for the IQ test,I called you out and your bluff. Name the place..Or, you just going to run your mouth like every one else on here?

Cambridge Massachusetts. I'll forward you the name of a licensed psychologist who will be conducting the test. You will be responsible for contacting the psychologist and making arrangements for YOUR test. You will also be responsible for the costs of YOUR test.

What? You didn't think I was going to accept some bullshit internet IQ test, did you? LMFAO

My test results are already on file so you will be the only one taking the test. When your test is complete, we will compare results.

Unfortunately for you, I already know what the result is going to be. Anyone who begins a question with the word 'why' and ends with the word 'for,' or, anyone who believes calling someone a 'fag' is being 'racist,' isn't very bright. Regardless, this will provide me another opportunity to humiliate you and I welcome it.

 

[Marcus]

So instead of putting his career on the line, he asks someone else to do the test for him and put their career on the line? LOL.. He was sent a HGH sample. And who knows what other illegal steroids were sent to him. Im guessing the ALP orals, that wont ever be tested now, because dr jim and his testing university were exposed. If there is so much risk, why is he even concerned about his identity being out there now for? He so much wants to be part of this bodybuilding community, and this was going to be his ticket to getting some respect. Not anymore.. It blew up in his face.. And I take great pleasure in LMFAO!!

Doubtful anyone else put their career on the line. These are usually research labs and that's why they are willing to do tests on substances like this. It's not like these lab techs and scientists are fuckin sneaking in to these gigantic million dollar university labs to run back door tests on GH.
There is a risk for any of us when you deal with illegal substances so keeping your identity sealed would be priority number 1, but that doesn't mean that his career is over simply by having the tests performed. You can't be this blind to this logic

 

[mands]

@Marcus I ordered anonymously and paid for my order. Karl never asked me to test. I tested so I could find good affordable GH. I only told Karl after I ordered and received my order who I was and what I was doing. I never told him I was mands from MESO or let him know until after the fact.

mands

 

[muscle96ss]

Yep shills like you prefer to scam others under the guise to advertising.

What's your take last year stoolie from PM?

I am a shill and a scammer?? Its funny Dr. Jim, you get caught in your web of lies and like a typical scammer/scoundrel/loser/assclown you start making accusations against everyone else to distract the focus of where it should be which is directly on your back and nobody elses. You want to make accusations on me and call me a shill and scammer, then back it up brother because I have backed up every single fucking thing I have said about you. So call me anything you want to call me; just provide facts to back to up or you are nothing but an assclown.

 

[Marcus]

@Marcus I ordered anonymously and paid for my order. Karl never asked me to test. I tested so I could find good affordable GH. I only told Karl after I ordered and received my order who I was and what I was doing. I never told him I was mands from MESO or let him know until after the fact.

mands

That's what I thought, thanks for clarification

 

[ufcguy32]

Of course Jim knew All of that information too. That mands ordered anonymously. Yet again his ego and narcissism won't let him admit he's been hiding and leading this witch hunt for weeks. He's so smart that he could have just told us hey guys I had someone test it or I know someone who tested it etc. Instead he attacked every single person who wanted to really find out the truth then you turn on mands and make up accusations on him. If you guys think this is OK and u want to question mands credibility? You are looking at wrong guy here

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

That's some dangerous circular reasoning. "He tested properly because of the results."

So if the results had been different he would have tested. ... improperly? And that is your assertion, apparently his supporters even know he is a wild card.

The circular reasoning is yours and yours alone. I've said nothing about what might have occurred if the results had been unfavorable to Karl. That's all you. My comments speak for themselves.

Look under most circumstances we don't need to ask these questions- when someone pulls what Jim did, all bets are off.

What is it that you think he did? He tested the GH and provided Mands with the results. End of story.

But most important, his biased and jaded way of presenting the facts is just as bad as an incomplete or erroneous test.

Who said the test was erroneous? No one is disputing that except you.

So, do you really think Jim doesn't have an agenda to discredit Karl?! I don't think even Jim would agree with that!

Jim probably has an agenda to discredit Karl *now* because Karl hasn't been able to provide ANY evidence that he is producing GH. I have the same agenda. The evidence in this thread clearly demonstrates that Karl is being deceitful. You getting hung up on some meaningless nonsense about who conducted the test is just creating a distraction and Karl is the beneficiary - that's why he's been silent all day.

 

[muscle96ss]

Is everyone here ass backwards or what? People seem as if they could care less of Dr. Jims actions and are more concerned with attacking mands. I think everyone should go back and re-read this thread from where mands tested the GH(or Dr. Jim to be technical) and read everything that Dr. Jim posted following that. If after reading that you don't believe that Dr. Jim is fully to blame 100% for this circus and for the lack of answers then you are probably involved in his little games as it is plain as day and almost humorous at times what he has written. People keep saying they are just looking for the truth. The problem is that these very people are the ones hiding behind lies and based on their actions could care less about the real truth. Go ahead and blame me, blame mands, blame Karl, but no not Dr. Jim, he is too fucking holy and did nothing wrong here. This is beyond the point of ridiculous!! Its funny, everyone is talking about Karl's integrity and not believing Karl. Well, I am at the point where I trust Karl a hell of a lot more than I trust Dr. Jim based on actions alone. It was actually the other way around when this thread first started.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

If there is so much risk, why is he even concerned about his identity being out there now for?

You sure you still want to go through with the IQ test, IM. LMFAO

 

[muscle96ss]

The circular reasoning is yours and yours alone. I've said nothing about what might have occurred if the results had been unfavorable to Karl. That's all you. My comments speak for themselves.




What is it that you think he did? He tested the GH and provided Mands with the results. End of story.



Who said the test was erroneous? No one is disputing that except you.




Jim probably has an agenda to discredit Karl *now* because Karl hasn't been able to provide ANY evidence that he is producing GH. I have the same agenda. The evidence in this thread clearly demonstrates that Karl is being deceitful. You getting hung up on some meaningless nonsense about who conducted the test is just creating a distraction and Karl is the beneficiary - that's why he's been silent all day.

CBS - you have mentioned this a couple of times where you have stated that Jim did not dispute the results of mands test. This is inacurrate, please re-read as I actually had a pretty long argument with Jim a couple of weeks ago where he was denying that mands tests showed that what was tested was actually GH. Jim put doubts in everyones minds when he was the one that did the testing and knew the results. Its shit like this that is completely unacceptable and the reason I finally had enough and came forward but not before firing a warning shot Dr. Jims way.