Western-BioTech - Pharma quality GH

Jim I have as much interest as u do. All I've posted is I hope this comes out good and not to jump to conclusion. Well Jim I guess I'll get karls re bottled pharmacy grade gh and do a serum. I have a interest to find out the truth good or bad. But that's not something u can do can u ?
 
And lol to u saying pro muscle is the only board with so called gh scams. Every board at some point recently has had an experience with a supplier gone bad. Quit demonizing it's ridiculous. We're dealing with the black market . I guarantee half the shit we get is half dosed under dosed or not up to fda guidelines. Seriously. It's a risk we all take on ANY substance from any sponsor. Sure we can test it. Get reviews but none of this guarantees every batch is perfect like we want to believe. Or bc we think the sponsor is a "good" guy. We don't know them and they don't know us. Seriously Ben u are fucking delusional.

And there's the other beauty thrown up by transients from shit boards. Robbie who was Uncle Z's lapdog came here telling us how things are done on the big money boards. He said everyone takes gear and gh in exchange for protection from enemies that would otherwise flame them in posts.
Uncle Z's crew, in agreement with this lame, uses the everything sucks and "we're lucky to get what we get" stance. When caught selling fake hg gear have all the talking heads post about how it's ok to get lied to as long as there's something...anything that is closely related to testosterone in the vials that are to forever known as "Working replicas".
Your defeatist attitude when pressed supports my belief that you are lying when speaking highly of K and his gh when you have your salesman hat on but admit the attitude is an act in hopes of making k happy so he doesn't fuck us too hard. You're at once a genius and the dumbest sounding oaf that just pissed and shit on himself when not being treated like the expert he claims to be.
Mands...my friend. I won't hold your apparent or any implied friendship with this clown for too long. Lol. You gotta admit. He went from a walk in the park to a babbling dim wit that made no sense and has lost any respect he may have been able to fake out of our guys here.
 
MANDS
I hope you know that's not what I'm referring to bc I made my belief UFC was biased because ALL of his posts were related to this thread and IMO much like MH has a vested interest in Karl's sales, in other words both are shills, and please before you criticize me for using that term AGAIN try looking up it's meaning.

So I have vested interest in Karls sales??? Show me one single, small, tiny but of evidence. In fact lets put a wager on it? You prove that I am a shill and have a vested interest and I will leave this board forever. However, if you can't prove it you have to leave. Hows that?? How about some actions and not words. I am a licensed medical practioner and have never and will never be involved in selling or promoting PED use for my profit. If you would open your fucking eyes and read what I have written time after time you would understand why I am here. If you are going to continue to make accusations against me that are not true and without proof then I may just start making some up about you as your bullshit is getting old. We can turn this into an Italian Muscle personal fuckfest type thread if you want. Man, you guys talk about PM, if that aint the pot calling the kettle black after seeing whats happening in this thread.
 
Since when have I said I'm an expert. I simply said I'm in the same ship as everyone here I just choose not to overreact for no reason. And that's a salesman to u? Lol where's my post telling everyone to go buy it? Tell me one post I've told people that I only think this is the holy grail etc. I won't find one. You are truly one of the stupidest people ivw ever met comparing me to people who literally have nothing to do with me.
 
Jim I have as much interest as u do. All I've posted is I hope this comes out good and not to jump to conclusion. Well Jim I guess I'll get karls re bottled pharmacy grade gh and do a serum. I have a interest to find out the truth good or bad. But that's not something u can do can u ?
What on God's green Earth are you talking about, Corky? I guess you didn't see my friend mands with his head hanging a bit while shaking it back and forth in disbelief and disgust in the quality of retard he was given to work with? I'm talking about you. You do get it? You didn't do good.
There is no rewriting of your posts here. You will be known forever as the heavy hitter karl was probably using as a scratching post who, after a particularly satisfying rub down, agreed to send him out to do good for daddy.
Fail.
 
I think mands can speak for himself. I don't need u to do it. Him and I have spoken many times. U are the fool who jumped down my throat throwing out baseless accusations.
 
So I have vested interest in Karls sales??? Show me one single, small, tiny but of evidence. In fact lets put a wager on it? You prove that I am a shill and have a vested interest and I will leave this board forever. However, if you can't prove it you have to leave. Hows that?? How about some actions and not words. I am a licensed medical practioner and have never and will never be involved in selling or promoting PED use for my profit. If you would open your fucking eyes and read what I have written time after time you would understand why I am here. If you are going to continue to make accusations against me that are not true and without proof then I may just start making some up about you as your bullshit is getting old. We can turn this into an Italian Muscle personal fuckfest type thread if you want. Man, you guys talk about PM, if that aint the pot calling the kettle black after seeing whats happening in this thread.
The posts you're making these days don't even sound like the same person made them?
How on earth are you making a comparison between meso and pm? On pm karl's already up for a Nobel Peace Price for his contribution in the field of whatever he decides he wants it to read.
There is no convincing needing to be done compared to the doubt that is allowed to be discussed. Who are you?
 
I think mands can speak for himself. I don't need u to do it. Him and I have spoken many times. U are the fool who jumped down my throat throwing out baseless accusations.
The down your throat thing is my current favorite style of love making. Does your mother own the duplex karls "Headquarters" are located? Was he asked to let you tag along today while she did the wash? Run along. You've been allowed to dumb down the joint long enough.
If i was able to ID you walking in the street running to catch a bus I would be as patient as possible and wait for any opening to accelerate and hit you with my fucking car.
 
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It doesnt seem like any one even cares about wether or not K is a legit source the last 30+ pages have for the most part bin the community beating on itself. And honestly of thoose 30+ pages its just the same thing said over an over we all have disagrements from time to time its normal but this is way outta hand and doin more harm then good.
Each new battle gives k more time to have the thread up an goin without posting updated test. At this point egos need to be put aside an ppl who have taken purchased or tested need to post there findings.
 
It doesnt seem like any one even cares about wether or not K is a legit source the last 30+ pages have for the most part bin the community beating on itself. And honestly of thoose 30+ pages its just the same thing said over an over we all have disagrements from time to time its normal but this is way outta hand and doin more harm then good.
Each new battle gives k more time to have the thread up an goin without posting updated test. At this point egos need to be put aside an ppl who have taken purchased or tested need to post there findings.
Do you have any confidence in my position that the tests have always led to more deception and as the consistency cannot be anywhere near as accurate as US Pharma,(even if it was it would be cost prohibitive).
The tests have been used to give confidence before during and after bad "batches" were discovered to have found their way into the market.
GH that has been tested by guys that were independent or even the first couple hundred kits seem wonderful only to have a great number of shit kits get out.
Then its refund and test the replacements when they finally make it out. They'll either be g2g or shit again.
It is just one cluster fuck after another.
Some believe RIPS were the best generics. They were loved except for the damn water retention. Once guys stopped rips they would dry out. Could be tricky at competition time and just plain sucks for guys that wanna look good and stay "on" year round.
What is it that causes that retention and other neg sides? Who knows. Gotta be a chino somewhere with that info.
Back to my thing about all this testing talk being a smokescreen for the real issues.
The fact that the entire get down from the very first word from these gh guys is fabricated/made up/lied about is an indication that we as needy consumers can't handle the truth. Karl doesn't have a large scale plant that offers pharm products that has this great new GH as the highlight. The batched have already showed fuck ups and have been replaced. Consistency.
The human factor. GH has been the source of the most controversy in our Community over the yrs and it shows no signs of change. What we have now is just the latest pipe dream that has plans to be ready with answers to the tough questions. The money guys are going to recruit the most trusted members to speak on the integrity and ingenuity of the people that are finally going to get it right.
Not happening anytime soon.
 
The posts you're making these days don't even sound like the same person made them?
How on earth are you making a comparison between meso and pm? On pm karl's already up for a Nobel Peace Price for his contribution in the field of whatever he decides he wants it to read.
There is no convincing needing to be done compared to the doubt that is allowed to be discussed. Who are you?

Sorry Ben but my words are from the exact same person as I have not changed one bit other than I am getting older a little too quickly. You imply that Karl is worshipped on PM. That is actually not the case. His reputation was severly tarnished from the scitropin scandal back in March(which was all started by me who ironically is being called a shill and getting paid by Karl,lol at that). Many people are very leary about the new GH over there based on their experience just as you are over here. They just have gone about things a little bit differently. And before you want to make the accusations that he is paying people off over there; I actually went to Big A myself in the middle of that fiasco as I thought for sure my money was gone and I was screwed. I wanted for Big A to step in and take some action. Big A responded and provided me some insight into Karl as he knows Karl on a more personal level and explained to me why Karl is not going anywhere and will fullfill his obligations. So you guys can talk tought and act like you know whats going on; but you don't have all the facts straight.
 
Do you have any confidence in my position that the tests have always led to more deception and as the consistency cannot be anywhere near as accurate as US Pharma,(even if it was it would be cost prohibitive).
The tests have been used to give confidence before during and after bad "batches" were discovered to have found their way into the market.
GH that has been tested by guys that were independent or even the first couple hundred kits seem wonderful only to have a great number of shit kits get out.
Then its refund and test the replacements when they finally make it out. They'll either be g2g or shit again.
It is just one cluster fuck after another.
Some believe RIPS were the best generics. They were loved except for the damn water retention. Once guys stopped rips they would dry out. Could be tricky at competition time and just plain sucks for guys that wanna look good and stay "on" year round.
What is it that causes that retention and other neg sides? Who knows. Gotta be a chino somewhere with that info.
Back to my thing about all this testing talk being a smokescreen for the real issues.
The fact that the entire get down from the very first word from these gh guys is fabricated/made up/lied about is an indication that we as needy consumers can't handle the truth. Karl doesn't have a large scale plant that offers pharm products that has this great new GH as the highlight. The batched have already showed fuck ups and have been replaced. Consistency.
The human factor. GH has been the source of the most controversy in our Community over the yrs and it shows no signs of change. What we have now is just the latest pipe dream that has plans to be ready with answers to the tough questions. The money guys are going to recruit the most trusted members to speak on the integrity and ingenuity of the people that are finally going to get it right.
Not happening anytime soon.
i think as far as points an concerns have bin made are all valid and what the meso community is about weve all been fucked outta cash by shadey ugls most at one point or another these labs had great reps in the begining. An like i said i doubt any one believes theres a bran new ugl hgh lab thats like a bayer set up just to out there to believe.
 
Do you have any confidence in my position that the tests have always led to more deception and as the consistency cannot be anywhere near as accurate as US Pharma,(even if it was it would be cost prohibitive).
The tests have been used to give confidence before during and after bad "batches" were discovered to have found their way into the market.
GH that has been tested by guys that were independent or even the first couple hundred kits seem wonderful only to have a great number of shit kits get out.
Then its refund and test the replacements when they finally make it out. They'll either be g2g or shit again.
It is just one cluster fuck after another.
Some believe RIPS were the best generics. They were loved except for the damn water retention. Once guys stopped rips they would dry out. Could be tricky at competition time and just plain sucks for guys that wanna look good and stay "on" year round.
What is it that causes that retention and other neg sides? Who knows. Gotta be a chino somewhere with that info.
Back to my thing about all this testing talk being a smokescreen for the real issues.
The fact that the entire get down from the very first word from these gh guys is fabricated/made up/lied about is an indication that we as needy consumers can't handle the truth. Karl doesn't have a large scale plant that offers pharm products that has this great new GH as the highlight. The batched have already showed fuck ups and have been replaced. Consistency.
The human factor. GH has been the source of the most controversy in our Community over the yrs and it shows no signs of change. What we have now is just the latest pipe dream that has plans to be ready with answers to the tough questions. The money guys are going to recruit the most trusted members to speak on the integrity and ingenuity of the people that are finally going to get it right.
Not happening anytime soon.

You make is sound like you are paranoid of some GH conspiracy. Look, I think we have all been fucked at one time or another from the GH scams, but not all of them are scams and not all of them are trash. Karl has already proved the quality of the GH he is using. Work with him and not against him to either prove or refute the other claims.
 
i think as far as points an concerns have bin made are all valid and what the meso community is about weve all been fucked outta cash by shadey ugls most at one point or another these labs had great reps in the begining. An like i said i doubt any one believes theres a bran new ugl hgh lab thats like a bayer set up just to out there.

Karl isn't saying that his GH is straight out of a Bayer type labratory. He has said it is r&d GH that has a purity of pharm grade or higher.
 
i think we can all agree had K not said he made the gh wed all bin better off?

You are correct. However, whether he makes it or not, I know that he does have control over the quality of the final product from things he has said to me in e-mails over the past several months.
 
You are correct. However, whether he makes it or not, I know that he does have control over the quality of the final product from things he has said to me in e-mails over the past several months.
Which is a great thing to have control over the quality but sometimes to much info only causess probs an this was way to much info as to sayin he made it.
 
Honestly i dont blame any one here for bein skeptical when i first got here i gotta be honest i thought most were assholes that is until i read an read an read an every 15 secs a new lab would sprout up.
All of you provide great info an even tho there are bumps in the road its great to see it plz keep it comen cause the ones like myself who know whats it like out there respect it a ton.
 
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