outkicked1
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it is herd mentality... I saw othersddoing it, looked like fun, and I want to be part of the group, bringing the heat does serve a purpose too.
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What do you want from the Steroid Underground?
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Its the noobs that just come in and talk the talk and walk the walk yet demand a spoon feeding. Those are the kind that just want to simply demand something without giving in return yet they get all pissy when they get asked to pound sand.
Underworld
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Read reviews about products from sources.
I'm not sure what's expected of the underground. As someone mentioned "I want my cake and to eat it too". I joined Meso largely in part to the vetting processes I observed. AAVANG was one I remember specific to time of my arrival and he was passing all the tests and working his way to the Meso pass. Just for @CensoredBoardsSuck i believe it was to uncover he was an exit scammer from another board. Numerous people were involved but I think y'all get the point.
A lot of us new guys may get overzealous with these new sources and that tends to overshadow the important questions that do get asked. I think that has to do also with the vets staying out of the underground, y'all are better at this than us and way more experienced at the right questions and tactics. We seen sources just start walking in and said "well fuck lets at least try to vet them" at least to best of our ability. I agree usually when people say find a source on a source board then come to Meso for reveiws but many times there aren't any.
I keep seeing it posted that the vets won't review or comment on sources due to not want to deal with the BS of getting called a shill. I find that kind of a cop out. I personally can't recall very many instances that a contributing, respected, or long standing member posted a review and was attacked.
A lot of us new guys may get overzealous with these new sources and that tends to overshadow the important questions that do get asked. I think that has to do also with the vets staying out of the underground, y'all are better at this than us and way more experienced at the right questions and tactics. We seen sources just start walking in and said "well fuck lets at least try to vet them" at least to best of our ability. I agree usually when people say find a source on a source board then come to Meso for reveiws but many times there aren't any.
I keep seeing it posted that the vets won't review or comment on sources due to not want to deal with the BS of getting called a shill. I find that kind of a cop out. I personally can't recall very many instances that a contributing, respected, or long standing member posted a review and was attacked.
I think the only way we will start seeing reviews in the underground is if some of our well established members get the ball rolling.
I agree with this to an extent. I do think you're actually the one I think of when I think of using a source board for sources and Meso for info. The problem with your post is it seems most of the "well established" members have moved onto home brewing, use private sources, or really just don't want a bunch of newbs crowding the sources they use.
Jerkthamerk
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Also there are too broad of judgements. For exams if a sources turnaround time is a little shitty we should discuss different people times and bring it to the attention of the source and see if it can be bettered. If not then reviews of the time should be negative. But that doesn't mean the source is a scam and has fake gear and stay away. Some people are ok with certain problems and some with others. It still could be beneficial to someone in need of a source but if they get called a scam over one issue members just see the scam label and pass when a long turnaround time may have been acceptable to that member to get legit gear. So just more detailed I guess.
I've been using several sources lately, both domestic and international.
Hitting promo deals and reorders with domestics, and getting all sorts of non injectable stuff from overseas.
If reviews was how we rolled at meso I would leave several, some good some not so good.
I do leave them on the source board where I found the source.
In true meso fashion, I'll leave one review that has been proved acceptable here.
Pharmacist has never let me down. 10/10 stars
Hitting promo deals and reorders with domestics, and getting all sorts of non injectable stuff from overseas.
If reviews was how we rolled at meso I would leave several, some good some not so good.
I do leave them on the source board where I found the source.
In true meso fashion, I'll leave one review that has been proved acceptable here.
Pharmacist has never let me down. 10/10 stars
Pharmacist does seem to get a pass lol but with, what is it, 200 pages of nothing but positive I'd say he back it up. He also tries to follow Meso standards and very rarely comes out of his thread even when tagged. That said I've even seen people called shills for him lol.
Ryno1980
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I personally could care less if sources are here or not, I've used sources from the underground and sources not affiliated with meso in any way.
My concern is much like most of yours. If they are gonna be here they must be held accountable for honesty and quality... how to do that? I don't have that answer and I'll be the first to admit that I've jumped on the bandwagon of source bashing from the gate.. the reality is that I've been here for a year so I'm still new.. but anyone who knows me knows I have no problem saying I like a source or dislike a source.. that could be good or bad depending on how you look at it...
At the end of the day if sources are going to source here, I'd like to see something like an agreement of sorts put in to place, maybe the wkms or rather the well respected members here put a protocol in to place, not a cease fire necessarily but more of a withheld bashing of people trying to give honest reviews of the source it's self.. be honest, we all know the difference between a shill and someone trying to share his experience... I just think there has to be a way to promote feedback without outright acceptance of a new source.
My concern is much like most of yours. If they are gonna be here they must be held accountable for honesty and quality... how to do that? I don't have that answer and I'll be the first to admit that I've jumped on the bandwagon of source bashing from the gate.. the reality is that I've been here for a year so I'm still new.. but anyone who knows me knows I have no problem saying I like a source or dislike a source.. that could be good or bad depending on how you look at it...
At the end of the day if sources are going to source here, I'd like to see something like an agreement of sorts put in to place, maybe the wkms or rather the well respected members here put a protocol in to place, not a cease fire necessarily but more of a withheld bashing of people trying to give honest reviews of the source it's self.. be honest, we all know the difference between a shill and someone trying to share his experience... I just think there has to be a way to promote feedback without outright acceptance of a new source.
Jerkthamerk
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There should be a time period or post quota before you can review. Doesn't eliminate problem but atleast we wouldn't have to trust the word of a first post guy. Wether he's legit or shill.
Ryno1980
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At the end of the day, meso members are really good at calling bullshit on shady sources and scammers, but we're also really good at jumpING the gun and making sources that might be ok, look like total shit.. I'm good with that because it's the sources job to prove they are good. My problem falls with the guys who are scared to leave feedback because they don't want to be slammed for doing so...
Definitely not a post quota per say. So many come in and just ramble to get post count up. I do think you're on the right track tho.
Has anyone else noticed the influx of accounts becoming active that are 1-3 years old with little to no activity? Could just be time to cycle but still odd looking.
Ryno1980
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But understand you @Burrr saying that holds a lot more weight in my eyes than say someone who has been here for 4 months.. even though that 4 month guy might have dealt with a source twice as much as you... I just think we need to do a better job of determining if a person is giving legit valuable info before we meso slap.them in front of everyone here..
I feel that if a source is going to be here then the source needs to be here not a smart mouth rep but that's just me. I'll admit I bust sources balls from time to time but that's when they start running their mouth about how MESO is a bunch of idiots, saying they don't need our business, also refusing to test their product. And my biggest issue is when a new source appears it seems like a bunch of brand new members post "how great their experience was" and then you see that's their first post
Ryno1980
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I'm probably going to regret saying this, but isn't an uncensored board exactly the place you would want to see a source? Vs a paid source board where negative reviews can get you banned? Not saying let's invite sources to openly peddle their shit but Atleast we know that if a source shows up here, and their product is sub part or bunk, it's gonna come out... just my thought ..
I can not understand why you are even here. You put your two cents in everywhere but don't even use gear...most topics shouldn't even matter to you...hell the whole underground part of meso shouldn't matter to you...you are part of the herd mentality that is being spoken of...let me jump on this band wagon cause it's cool....I'm sure you have plenty of knowledge but man, you have no dog in this fight or many others that you run yourself into the middle of...so just pipe down and enjoy reading
Kash89
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Great thread and I think a lot of you have some very insightful views and hopes for meso to progress. I agree the mob mentality has been strong lately. As mentioned I think there needs to be a balance, i love to see shills or sources get ran off when its deserved but when its someone posting their actually experience and getting torched for it is wrong and discourages others to do the same. I do like sources being here and a few have shown to be very successful because they handled their shit appropriately. With that said i think there should be some type of protocol and like a probation period because this is a board where they dont have to pay to setup shop. Meso has its reputation as a no holds bar type of place and Im glad because it makes sources get their shit together before they step foot in here, or at least they should. Dont get me wrong I love how ruthless meso is but lets have that energy be towards people trying to hurt the community and not the people trying to contribute. I think we are on the right track and want to see meso progress so if we see bullshit speak up and stand up for whats right and not just jump in to bash someone because everyone else is doing it.
Not hating on you but who exactly are you to tell someone what should or shouldn't matter to them and what they can or can't have an opinion on? If you follow your line of logic his posts shouldn't matter to you and you should also pipe down and enjoy reading.
Yeah, I'd say your hating....if you can't understand that he doesn't even use aas and for that fact shouldn't even care about sources or what we'd like with them then I don't know how to otherwise explain it to you. What does it matter to him? It just doesn't make sense. If he used gear then I could completely understand the importance of a good reliable source to him...I'm not saying he doesn't belong on meso...not even close so don't take it that way....it's like me going to an AA meeting and trying to tell people there that I can relate to their problem when I may drink a whole 6 pack in a year
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