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Just thought I would share today's chest/back sets, since I see a lot posted here (albeit squats); before I go to bed.

30-45 second rest.

10 sets, 4 reps 155 incline bench
5 sets, 6 reps 185 flat bench
5 sets, 12 reps 60 dumbbell flyes
5 sets, 12 reps 50 each side, cable crossover

Wide grip pull ups, 4 sets, 50 reps total
8 sets, 8 reps, 90 lbs barbell rows
8 sets, 8 reps, 75 lbs dumbbell rows

FYI, thanks for sharing all the info shredded, I really have learned a lot from your posts! Thanks again man!
 
Just thought I would share today's chest/back sets, since I see a lot posted here (albeit squats); before I go to bed.

30-45 second rest.

10 sets, 4 reps 155 incline bench
5 sets, 6 reps 185 flat bench
5 sets, 12 reps 60 dumbbell flyes
5 sets, 12 reps 50 each side, cable crossover

Wide grip pull ups, 4 sets, 50 reps total
8 sets, 8 reps, 90 lbs barbell rows
8 sets, 8 reps, 75 lbs dumbbell rows

FYI, thanks for sharing all the info shredded, I really have learned a lot from your posts! Thanks again man!

My pleasure mate im glad you found some of it useful and was able to apply it to your workouts, some nice lifts there brother.
 
One question, you mentioned tans in your first post. I've always wondered what you guys did for tanning, I just watched Lee Priest's latest win and his tan was super dark compared to what you see in his commentary videos over the last few years. How do you guys do it?

Normally, I would just spray on some banana boat and sit outside for a week, but I suspect there is more to what you guys do.
 
just did a chest workout this style too as far as my flat bench. normally i flat bench for only like 4-5 sets... and super set incline dumbell presses. instead i just focused on flat bench..
went
145 x 15
165x 12
185x 12
195 x 12
215x 8
235x 6
255 x 4
145 x 15

felt pretty nice .. still went on to do some smith machine incline presses nice and light to burn out, and then worked my tris... feel pretty damn obiterated ..

My trainer wants me to do a different 5 day split .. she want me to basically do 2 days of upperbody , 2 days of legs/ core, with 1 day in the middle as a metobolic day of burpies etc.. the two upperbody days would be spaced out but would encompass all the different groups... so im kind of hesitant, but would like to try something new..

what do you think shredded?
 
One question, you mentioned tans in your first post. I've always wondered what you guys did for tanning, I just watched Lee Priest's latest win and his tan was super dark compared to what you see in his commentary videos over the last few years. How do you guys do it?

Normally, I would just spray on some banana boat and sit outside for a week, but I suspect there is more to what you guys do.

When I started competing we used a product called Contest colour which is a alcohol based dye, you would put 3-4 coats of this on the day before the show.
Come comp day you would pump up and then add baby oil to give a nice sheen to the muscles, you had to be careful not to over do the baby oil and I used to pat most of it of with a towel leaving a nice thin coat which would pick up the stage lights and hopefully show the best definition possible.

Now we have a Product called dream tan which is like a cream, it never dry's which contest colour did, this stuff gets every where and I mean every where. After my comp im cleaning out from the car for months. Its benefit is you can be completely white as a ghost and within 15 mins be contest ready, it also has a metal flake in it similar to what car makers use in there paint jobs.

Nothing looks as good as Dream Tan on stage and I do use it but I have managed to get it to work even better.

3 coats of Contest Colour the day before and then back stage before you pump up apply the dream tan, this really stands out under the lighting and I can't stress enough the importance of a good tan, it can mean the difference between placing and just missing out.
 
just did a chest workout this style too as far as my flat bench. normally i flat bench for only like 4-5 sets... and super set incline dumbell presses. instead i just focused on flat bench..
went
145 x 15
165x 12
185x 12
195 x 12
215x 8
235x 6
255 x 4
145 x 15

felt pretty nice .. still went on to do some smith machine incline presses nice and light to burn out, and then worked my tris... feel pretty damn obiterated ..

My trainer wants me to do a different 5 day split .. she want me to basically do 2 days of upperbody , 2 days of legs/ core, with 1 day in the middle as a metobolic day of burpies etc.. the two upperbody days would be spaced out but would encompass all the different groups... so im kind of hesitant, but would like to try something new..

what do you think shredded?
From a bodybuilding perspective this would not be my ideal workout, there's so much energy required to hit the whole upper body/lower body in one day I simply would not be able to train at 100% intensity all the way through.

If your goal was to gain some muscle/tone and burn more calories in a effort to become fitter,leaner and stronger then this could work.

What I find works best is if we determine the goal first then we take steps in that direction with the goal always in mind and keep progressing towards that goal.
 
From a bodybuilding perspective this would not be my ideal workout, there's so much energy required to hit the whole upper body/lower body in one day I simply would not be able to train at 100% intensity all the way through.

If your goal was to gain some muscle/tone and burn more calories in a effort to become fitter,leaner and stronger then this could work.

What I find works best is if we determine the goal first then we take steps in that direction with the goal always in mind and keep progressing towards that goal.

Shredded, my goals are to maintain a lean body , 10-12% bf, and grow in muscle size, im 5 11 , 172 normally. i went up to 195 on a cycle, and now im back down to 185 or so. my bf is pretty much in check, and if i watch my diet it gets better. I would like to be able to do much more than maintain this, id like to grow in my legs and upper body significantly. Ill include a pic.
i wasnt very savvy in gym class in HS, and Im 32 now, and have been lifting on and off for years, but now consistently for over a year.
I have a few persistant injuries in my joints i have to work around, currently golfers elbow in both elbows, and my left knee has a snapping hamstring syndrome when i squat with my feet to narrow. also i have to watch my range of motion in my shoulders as i had a rotator cuff tear years ago, and my spine is pretty vunrulable too. (sounds like a broken old man , but im really actually pretty strong)..
my 5 day split for the last year was Mon/fri , legs and core. tues ,back /bicep, wed , chest/tri, thur , shoulders. i think this led to my elbow injury having those 3 upper body days in a row. i have since changed it and reduced lifts until elbows heal.. (50% of normal lifts now, especially reduced on pulling exercises and biceps). I moved legs to sunday, then mon back and bi, wed rest, thur shouldes, fri legs / core, sat chest / tri..
I picked the most build and blown personal trainer (female) at my gym to work with. She hasnt started working with me, were planning the week of the 18th to work together. She did mention her odd 5 day split, and as I stated I am skeptical about working upper body 2x a week , including all the groups within that. The real reason im seeking out help , is to straighten my form or at least have it checked, gain some better warm up stretching, and also maybe gain some extra workouts that i dont know yet. (different grip posistions, and ways to isolate that I may be un aware of.) Also want her checking my form on all deads and squats, etc.

with this all in mind, do you think i should email her breaking down more of a BB split that Id like to try like a 6 day split more like yours, where 1, maybe 2 groups max get hit within a day? She has advised me to stop doing cardio and sub on my rest day for a metabolic type workout ..

Heres a pic of me currently , and sorry for long post , Shredded looking for your advise in the most sincere way, thanks Sir
 

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ive been thinking about this all day shreded. like i say Im going to be starting with that trainer in a week n a half, im payn for it so it makes sense for it to be tailored to me in such a way that I will be happy with it.
Im thinking about emailing her your 6 day schedule, , M, arms, Tue, shoulder, traps
Wed, abs, lowback, calfs, Thur, hamstrings , quads, Fri , Back, Sat, Chest...

With this schedule, could i say start sunday night with Chest, and end on Fri with Back.. the rest day isnt important where its layed in right?
 
and I have your back day copied, also your squat routine, which im sure is just your thursday ham/quad day. I think I have Chest day and arm day covered, but could you break down your ab/lowback/calf routine?
 
Shredded, my goals are to maintain a lean body , 10-12% bf, and grow in muscle size, im 5 11 , 172 normally. i went up to 195 on a cycle, and now im back down to 185 or so. my bf is pretty much in check, and if i watch my diet it gets better. I would like to be able to do much more than maintain this, id like to grow in my legs and upper body significantly. Ill include a pic.
i wasnt very savvy in gym class in HS, and Im 32 now, and have been lifting on and off for years, but now consistently for over a year.
I have a few persistant injuries in my joints i have to work around, currently golfers elbow in both elbows, and my left knee has a snapping hamstring syndrome when i squat with my feet to narrow. also i have to watch my range of motion in my shoulders as i had a rotator cuff tear years ago, and my spine is pretty vunrulable too. (sounds like a broken old man , but im really actually pretty strong)..
my 5 day split for the last year was Mon/fri , legs and core. tues ,back /bicep, wed , chest/tri, thur , shoulders. i think this led to my elbow injury having those 3 upper body days in a row. i have since changed it and reduced lifts until elbows heal.. (50% of normal lifts now, especially reduced on pulling exercises and biceps). I moved legs to sunday, then mon back and bi, wed rest, thur shouldes, fri legs / core, sat chest / tri..
I picked the most build and blown personal trainer (female) at my gym to work with. She hasnt started working with me, were planning the week of the 18th to work together. She did mention her odd 5 day split, and as I stated I am skeptical about working upper body 2x a week , including all the groups within that. The real reason im seeking out help , is to straighten my form or at least have it checked, gain some better warm up stretching, and also maybe gain some extra workouts that i dont know yet. (different grip posistions, and ways to isolate that I may be un aware of.) Also want her checking my form on all deads and squats, etc.

with this all in mind, do you think i should email her breaking down more of a BB split that Id like to try like a 6 day split more like yours, where 1, maybe 2 groups max get hit within a day? She has advised me to stop doing cardio and sub on my rest day for a metabolic type workout ..

Heres a pic of me currently , and sorry for long post , Shredded looking for your advise in the most sincere way, thanks Sir

Ok here's my take on this but first, you look good bro well done what a great base to work with, body fat is right where it should be for nice lean gains.

Lol so you picked the hot chick as your personal trainer, I would have done the same.
I would express your concerns and let her now your goals so that she has a better understanding of your expectations from this training phase. Also if you haven't already done so I would let her know about your injuries and don't worry we all have them. Yes I would email her stating the above.

Knowing that you are carrying these little niggling injuries would make me more inclined to reduce the actual volume and frequency of which you placed stress or load on these points. It would seem to me even more important that we gave them maximum rest so that we don't inflame this situation, IE training one body part once per week.

I think its a excellent idea you get her to check your form on all exercises and make sure we are not doing them incorrectly and causing more damaged, this is what I would use her time for. Once we have this down pat then it would be my pleasure to help you with a more bodybuilding style program if that's what you would like.

From one broken old man to another, joking your not that old. I find the best way is to work around your injuries, if your doing a movement and it causes pain then stop, its the body's way of saying hey I don't like this if you don't stop im going to hurt you back.

Warm ups and controlled form with moderate weights and intense contraction of the muscle under constant tension are just some of the tools we can use to train around injuries until they heal. Im not a big believer in anti inflammatorys but they do have there place and if used only when needed can help some what.
 
and I have your back day copied, also your squat routine, which im sure is just your thursday ham/quad day. I think I have Chest day and arm day covered, but could you break down your ab/lowback/calf routine?

Yes mate the rest can go anywhere to suit you, no problem im in the process of writing down my current routine for one of the other members so if you can bear with me I will put up my ab/lower back and calf routine.
 
thank you for such detailed responses Shredded. I hit her with a email... we will see where it goes. And when ever you get to it, would love to see some of your other routines. Thanks Again!!
 
Ok so I have been asked buy more than one member to outline my training routine so I hope you don't mind if I put it up here and make it available for all, saves me sending lots of PM's.

I didn't realize how unstructured my training is, buy that I mean I always go in with a plan but if something is not right on that day I train buy instinct, now this may not be everyone's cup of tea but I feel the best coach I have is my body telling me what it needs to do on any given day.

So here it is,
Monday biceps and triceps in that order, why, biceps can never be to big and I put them first to give them priority.

Biceps Hammer strength preacher curl, warm up with two arms then 10 sets of 10-15 reps one arm curls on the preacher.
Next cable curls with the v bar 7 sets of 15 reps. Biceps done.

Biceps are my weak point so I put them first when my energy levels are high.

Triceps cable pushdown close grip 20 reps 8 sets,
Triceps dips 5 sets of 10-15 reps,
Cable kick backs 3 set of 20 reps triceps done.

Tuesday shoulders Smith machine press to the front 10-20 reps with little rest between sets.
Then cable flies in the cable cross over machine 10-20 reps with little rest.
Next rear delt raises 10-15 reps again very little rest.
Followed buy shrugs with a light weight for 5 sets of 20 reps.

Shoulders for me seem to heal quick and I have trouble overtraining them so I tend to hit them hard and fast, the pump I get from this is very uncomfortable, yes read it hurts in a good way.

Wednesday kinda a respite day for me but not so intense, I have trained abs since day one so now they don't need much in the way of training hence the light schedule.

Abs knee lifts 5 sets of 20 reps,
cable crunches super stetted with hyper extensions for the back 20 reps for each and 5 sets.
Next one of the many core strength exercises out there sorry to many to list as I vary it with stomach vacuums.

Some may ask why stomach vacuums, the reason for this is the smaller you can make your waist look on stage the better, symmetry is always important and a tight waist adds to the illusion of wide shoulders. See Frank Zane as a example of stomach vacuums.

Thursday and my fav day although done right I feel like shit afterwards.
Hamstring curls 10 sets of 20 reps super stetted with leg extensions same reps.
Then I will pick one exercise weather it be squats or leg press and go until I puke.
So one of my favs would be smith machine squats and 20 plus reps, i'll start with a weight that lets me get 20 reps easy then put more weight on and slow it up contracting the muscle even more, no lockout at the top and no rest at the bottom.
I will usually get to a stage when my legs are so full of blood I can literally not walk down the gym stairs at this point I now im done.

Friday back, this used to be a bad body part for me to train now I love it as im finally able to contact and feel all the muscles in my back, so it looks like this.
Hammer strength lat pull downs to the front super setted with pull downs facing the other way 10 reps each way 20 reps in total, I may do 20 sets here just depends on when I loose the feel for this exercise.

Then cable rows 10 reps and maybe 5 sets or again until I feel the movement is gone.

Next one arm dumbbell rows, god I love this exercise nothing hits my lats like this, I use a strap so grip strength is not a issue and really focus on my lats pulling the weight back not using my arms so much.

Finish lat pullovers 20 reps minimum and maybe 5 sets, lat pullovers are one of the most underrated exercises in my book, done properly with good form they can increase the size of your rib cage giving you the experience of a bigger chest/back.

Saturday Chest,
Smith machine incline press weight a moderate weight and 10-20 reps per set until I feel like I not getting anything out of it, I could end up just doing smith machine press for 50 reps and until I can know longer feel the movement and go home.
Chest is one of those things for me that clued me into the mind muscle link when I train chest im able to contract the muscle so hard its uncomfortable, do this experiment for me, push your right arm forward and across your chest and try to contract your pectoral this is what each muscle should feel like when trained and chest was the first and easiest for me to explain.

So I hope this info has been of some help and if you guys have any questions please ask.
On a personal note thank you for everyone who has taken the time to read this thread, I may have gotten of on the wrong foot but I hope buy putting something back and being genuine that I can make amends.

Cheers.
 
no doubt thank you very much shredded. these workouts gunna have a few of us doing them i bet. I really like how there layed out. .. I mean i see if i wanted to skirt the 6th day i could combine, back with bi ,and chest with tri again, but what i really love is how quad , hams, and then calf, low back , and abs correspond to ea other. and if i can push my girlfriend into letting me have that 6th day , i cant wait to only work bi/tri together. . and split back , and chest to there own respective days. Chest is definitely a day for me where im about burnt once i move to tris ... and i see this creates a habitat perfect for injuries.
 
No deads on ab/ low back day ?

No deads at all mate that's correct and the reason being at this stage of my career being a older athlete deadlift's will only add thickness to my waist, this is exactly what I don't wont.

If I was to throw them in there due to not being able to do any other lower back exercise they would be light and 20 reps plus and most probably only lowering the weight to the knee using the lower back not a full deadlift.
 
no doubt thank you very much shredded. these workouts gunna have a few of us doing them i bet. I really like how there layed out. .. I mean i see if i wanted to skirt the 6th day i could combine, back with bi ,and chest with tri again, but what i really love is how quad , hams, and then calf, low back , and abs correspond to ea other. and if i can push my girlfriend into letting me have that 6th day , i cant wait to only work bi/tri together. . and split back , and chest to there own respective days. Chest is definitely a day for me where im about burnt once i move to tris ... and i see this creates a habitat perfect for injuries.

Give it a try and see how you go, this is not the ultimate workout but it works for me.
Not everyone will agree on this plan but that's body building. Its like a recipe for making a cake, you take the recipe and make the cake and when you taste it if its not to your liking then you alter it to suit your taste.

Training programs are like that you take the basics and keep altering them until you come up with something that suits you.
 
Shredded, I know you have discussed cycling carbs. You have also stated that you cycle your carbs one high day, two low days, repeat. Is this your precontest approach? Do you have more high days during offseason or do you stick to this approach year round?
 
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