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If it only increases appetite and cravings while simultaneously suffering night sweats? And it’s not like you see physical changes while taking it.

The worst part is that it makes you look flat and skinny. Staying full while cutting is more optimal and you look much better.
 
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Dnp was discovered as a biproduct of dynamite. In a dynamite factory people were dying of hyperthermia, heat death! It burns fat as heat in your body! So naturally they were like hell yea lets sell it to the public!!!! Humans are pretty stupid sometimes!!! Its a precomp drug imo. I would never touch it otherwise
 
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Ridethelightningbarefoot said:
Dnp was discovered as a biproduct of dynamite. In a dynamite factory people were dying of hyperthermia, heat death! It burns fat as heat in your body! So naturally they were like hell yea lets sell it to the public!!!! Humans are pretty stupid sometimes!!! Its a precomp drug imo. I would never touch it otherwise
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It wasn't sold until about 15 years after it was found to be a problem in munitions factories because it had been studied by then and found to be a very effective treatment for obesity.

Also, the pharmacies ended up selling dinitrocresol instead of dinitrophenol - DNC is actually tremendously more potent than DNP, believe it or not... Quite a lot of people bought and used it.
 
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Eman said:
It wasn't sold until about 15 years after it was found to be a problem in munitions factories because it had been studied by then and found to be a very effective treatment for obesity.

Also, the pharmacies ended up selling dinitrocresol instead of dinitrophenol - DNC is actually tremendously more potent than DNP, believe it or not... Quite a lot of people bought and used it.
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Well i have no use for it but I dont compete and im not a bb. So im sure its great for someone who is
 
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@Eman could you please help me understand the insulin reset / adaptation principle? I have done 4 cycles in my life and seen a good effect with blood sugar levels a moment after them. I would like to better understand the effects short and mid term. It seems beneficial to me, on that aspect at least
Many thanks
 
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Re blood sugar, any improvement will be linked to the fact that DNP increases insulin independent glucose uptake, an overall improvement in carb tolerance, and fat loss itself. In general, fat down = insulin sensitivity up.

Note that this isn't universal and the length of use seems to have a big role to play. Some of the data from 1937 (Simkins A or B, I forget) suggested that short runs, less than 3 weeks, were correlated with a moderate increase in fasting glucose levels & moderated impairment of carb tolerance. Longer runs (3 weeks - a year) correlated with no change in fasting blood sugar levels but a significant increase in carb tolerance.
 
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Ridethelightningbarefoot said:
I mean it just seems completely against my goals to build strength. Maybe if i was like not trying to compete and just look good on the beach or for a vacation but shit im not even that strong so i figure the last thing i should be doing is worrying about physique
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I'm not trying to talk you into it. I'm just saying, no one really needs to meet any specific criteria to use it. There seems to be this idea that it's only reasonable for an advanced precontest BB to use it, but that's just really not true.

If strength is your only goal, then yeah.. DNP isn't a good idea for you. For powerlifters, DNP is good for dropping a weight class but that's about it.
 
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MrRippedZilla said:
Re blood sugar, any improvement will be linked to the fact that DNP increases insulin independent glucose uptake, an overall improvement in carb tolerance, and fat loss itself. In general, fat down = insulin sensitivity up.

Note that this isn't universal and the length of use seems to have a big role to play. Some of the data from 1937 (Simkins A or B, I forget) suggested that short runs, less than 3 weeks, were correlated with a moderate increase in fasting glucose levels & moderated impairment of carb tolerance. Longer runs (3 weeks - a year) correlated with no change in fasting blood sugar levels but a significant increase in carb tolerance.
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Many thanks for your detailed return
I have then found this : Simpkins DNP - 1937.pdf and this
2,4-dinitrophenol - Registration Dossier - ECHA after the Simkins ref you mentioned.
 
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Exister0 said:
If it only increases appetite and cravings while simultaneously suffering night sweats? And it’s not like you see physical changes while taking it.

The worst part is that it makes you look flat and skinny. Staying full while cutting is more optimal and you look much better.
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DNP is magic. I did a 5 day run taking 750mgs per day.
Kept diet clean 4 of the 5 days.
1 day i binged out with a massive meatball calzone, dozen peanut butter chocolate chip cookies and a dozen cinnamon rolls from the local bakery.
Kept workouts to: AM lifts as usual with 1 hour elliptical after then another hour long elliptical session in the PM.
By day 5 i was noticeably leaner but looking soft and watery due to the water retention of DNP but again still noticeably leaner in my midsection whilst also looking flat in my arms due to glycogen depletion.
A week later after the 5 day run + keep diet clean and training the same after the last DNP dose: I had lost 17lbs and strength stayed the same.
Absolutely infucking sane.
Yes the carb cravings can become intense.
Yes the heat fucking SUCKS especially at night when trying to sleep. BUT the amount of fat you can lose in such a short term if you stay disciplined throughout your DNP run is NUTS.
Best shit out for body recomp/fat lass. Undisputed king.
 
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Numbers999 said:
it definitely does not take a week to take full effect lol! I feel it within hours of taking it. I just did a 5 day run and lost 17lbs which i believe was all fat
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I feel it within an hour or two even with low doses like 100 mg. I've gotten visible results just taking 350 mg on Friday and Saturday evening.

If you look at the old studies from the 1930s, some people get a bigger metabolic boost than others at a given dose. I'm a high responder. I get more fat loss from 100 mg/day than could be explained by an 11% boost to TDEE.
 
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Fattyone said:
You think it would cut fat while in a surplus?
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Lol cut & surplus do not go together.
I’m Would assume taking DNP on a surplus of calories would = the DNP essentially burning X amount of those surplus calories in addition to ur body’s TDEE therefore maybe getting u either STILL in a slight surplus, closer to maintenance calories or at the very best a very very small deficit.

All 3 of which seem like a foolish thing to do and waste of DNP. Why suffer the sides of DNP when U can just eat at maintenance or make the very small
Calorie cut?
If u really wanna see the drugs magic then keep Cals clean and try to keep them at maintenance or lower.
At least that’s what works for me & the fat melts off quick
YMMV
 
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Numbers999 said:
Lol cut & surplus do not go together.
I’m Would assume taking DNP on a surplus of calories would = the DNP essentially burning X amount of those surplus calories in addition to ur body’s TDEE therefore maybe getting u either STILL in a slight surplus, closer to maintenance calories or at the very best a very very small deficit.

All 3 of which seem like a foolish thing to do and waste of DNP. Why suffer the sides of DNP when U can just eat at maintenance or make the very small
Calorie cut?
If u really wanna see the drugs magic then keep Cals clean and try to keep them at maintenance or lower.
At least that’s what works for me & the fat melts off quick
YMMV
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m314 said:
I feel it within an hour or two even with low doses like 100 mg. I've gotten visible results just taking 350 mg on Friday and Saturday evening.

If you look at the old studies from the 1930s, some people get a bigger metabolic boost than others at a given dose. I'm a high responder. I get more fat loss from 100 mg/day than could be explained by an 11% boost to TDEE.
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You think it’d be strong enough to offset a large cheat day or weekend when used only sparingly (which I know is ethically f** up)? Would still suck as the amount of carbs plus DNP will cause sweats and extra water retention than normal.
 
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Exister0 said:
You think it’d be strong enough to offset a large cheat day or weekend when used only sparingly (which I know is ethically f** up)? Would still suck as the amount of carbs plus DNP will cause sweats and extra water retention than normal.
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What do ethics have to do with taking a fat burner? DNP is safe and effective when used sparingly. This example (350 mg two days in a row) is actually a lot more than I would take now just for comfort reasons. I'd rather take 100 mg/day and get no side effects other than feeling warmer.

I don't think taking it for a cheat day would be worth it for the reasons you mentioned. The pleasure of eating junk food isn't worth feeling bad from moderate dose DNP. Cheat days don't set me back much anyway as long as I avoid alcohol.
 
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