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Why MESO is tough on sources

Villain said:
Was he living in a nursing home by chance? I definitely don’t want to take anything away from his death, but with all the misinformation surrounding Covid, it could’ve been the flu for all anyone knows.
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No he owned his own home.
 
worst site is that dylan gimelli faggots site isarms or w.e forum. Those guys there always push theyre bunk sources.... i even remember once way back in the day i fell for that sht literally the gear I got was pure trash then i posted to expose them and what do you know my thread was just "gone" fkers delete threads and all they do is push thier sarms even for pct smh...
 
juicy122 said:
worst site is that dylan gimelli faggots site isarms or w.e forum. Those guys there always push theyre bunk sources.... i even remember once way back in the day i fell for that sht literally the gear I got was pure trash then i posted to expose them and what do you know my thread was just "gone" fkers delete threads and all they do is push thier sarms even for pct smh...
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Lmao right!!!
stomach issues? SARM.
HEADACHE? SARM!
GOT THE GAY? Dylan gimelli sarm!
Dick too small? Deff need all sarm pack, insert site here.
 
Akuj said:
Lmao right!!!
stomach issues? SARM.
HEADACHE? SARM!
GOT THE GAY? Dylan gimelli sarm!
Dick too small? Deff need all sarm pack, insert site here.
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lmao also you post a simple question and boom your asked stats? age? cycle history? like wtf im just asking a simple question who gives a shit about my history just answer this simple question. I swear does that guy even lift like wtf all this shit hes takin and it looks like he never grew one bit.
 
juicy122 said:
lmao also you post a simple question and boom your asked stats? age? cycle history? like wtf im just asking a simple question who gives a shit about my history just answer this simple question. I swear does that guy even lift like wtf all this shit hes takin and it looks like he never grew one bit.
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To be honest, I dont think I even made an account on there. I read a few threads, laughed my ass off, noped the fuck right outta there. I knew it was horseshit from the get go. If sarms were the all time God pill that they keep preaching like. That little closet homo wouldn't be juicing all day everyday which you can tell from his videos that he does. Plus, constantly having all mods, himself, all the other dick riders post only positive reviews with not 1 negative is a major red flag!
 
juicy122 said:
lmao also you post a simple question and boom your asked stats? age? cycle history? like wtf im just asking a simple question who gives a shit about my history just answer this simple question. I swear does that guy even lift like wtf all this shit hes takin and it looks like he never grew one bit.
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Hes going for that "Twink" look

Kinda hard to throw on mass when you have aids too
 
Silentlemon1011 said:
I mean... in all reality.

If you suck enough dicks, you will eventually get the aids.
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BigBaldBeardGuy said:
Ok. Fair enough. Maybe I’m serving up my crockpot of bullshit. You’re a mod over there you say. Perhaps you can clear this up then:

1) How many mods do you guys have there?
2) Why do you need so many mods?
3) What do you get for being a mod?
4) Have you ever received free gear for being a mod?

These are all rhetorical questions btw. I already know the answers.

I follow ASF because I like to see what’s going on across threads. I started this thread immediately after Krossout received his ban from Montego. Krossout brought up some of these very points and must have been flying too close to the sun. Banning him was all the confirmation I needed to see to motivate me to start this thread. And boy howdy, it seems to be a rather well-received thread so far.

ASF is a SOURCE board. MESO is a MEMBER board. That’s a big difference. And that’s fine. It takes all kinds in this world. It’s when ASF pretends to give any fucks whatsoever about its members that it becomes nauseating.

If you think that’s bullshit, well you’re a mod, simply unite all the other mods together and change it.

Quit allowing so many freebies to be flung around. It’s a racket and the gearwhores love it. Anyone that accepts those freebies is trading in their integrity. So each free vial is slowly withering away the integrity of that board.

Quit censoring the board and allow your members to freely communicate. It works just fine here. Members side with members and we handle our own shit. It’s easy to see who the reverse scammers are. You don’t need a dozen mods to decide whose opinions matter. If you cared about your members you would have sided with JSwole220 from the very start. But nobody seems to be too ready to bite the feeding hands over there now do they? You all like to talk about members trying to take down sources by speaking badly about them - causing “drama”. What a fucking great community!!! Underhanded, shady shit requiring swift mod action. Look at your own crock of shit being served.

Now tell me, was your first instinct to try and ban me? Your mod powers are useless here. The members have the power and that’s what makes this board the best.
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I get nothing for being a mod. Mods are not paid.

No I’ve never received free gear for being a mod.

I’m not sure how may we have, I’ve never counted

To serve the community as I’ve already poured out

Krossout made false accusations about mods getting paid and involved in scamming so yeah fuck him and w home else who’s says that. They’re full of shit, and that’s their opinion not a truth.
 
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Lmao, Gemelli is one weird bird. Watching his vids makes me cringe lol.
 
BIG74 said:
@BigBaldBeardGuy Very well articulated. Thanks for being an asset to here.

@hfo369 One of the things that bothers me the most is, other boards not questioning new sources on brewing and capping practices. I don't give a flying fuck what any mod or admin says about looking out for their members, cause if they did, they would vet their sources and be adamant from the get go about their members getting what they are paying for. You guys have the ability to verify if a sources OPSEC and operations are up to par, and truly meet the criteria that your members deserve. Not simply allow them to pay a fee, BOOM, start peddling their shit - that may or may not be any good.
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hfo369 said:
I get nothing for being a mod. Mods are not paid.

No I’ve never received free gear for being a mod.

I’m not sure how may we have, I’ve never counted

To serve the community as I’ve already poured out

Krossout made false accusations about mods getting paid and involved in scamming so yeah fuck him and w home else who’s says that. They’re full of shit, and that’s their opinion not a truth.
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I'd like to take this time to thank HFO3 for his taking the time to listen to my/our side of the story where @Cakedup aka bigmills is concerned. He's been more than receptive and cordial and for that, I thank you.
It just so happened that the cakedup/bigmills situation mixed into the thread we're discussing here because cakedup happen to see custom running his mouth talking shit to @Jswole220 and without bothering to read the entire thread to see what was going on thought he would pile on and ran his mouth.
Cakedup, as usual, looked like the fucking mope that he is when members told him he had no idea what he was talking about, etc.

Now, I'd never spoken to HFO3 before he sent me a pm at asf. I can't say that I've seen him anywhere else over the years, either. One of the other reps, Montego, I've seen elsewhere over the years but have never spoken to him and know nothing about him either.

I think its important for our members here to understand that though staff at ASF may meet in a staff thread to discuss different issues that come up that require them all be aware of whats going on, that may be the only interaction that they have with each other.
What I'm saying, is while there may be certain staff members on a board, any board, on the take it doesn't mean that they all are. It doesn't mean that one staff member is privy to what other staff members are up to.

As far as this particular rep is concerned and how he compares to other reps for other ugl's let's take a quick look; Reps, for the most part and from what I've seen, are present to run interference for the source(To be blunt).
Having a rep gives the illusion of the source being among the people. Though we can't literally see them, I imagine them with a phony smile talking up the brand and answering questions that any member who took the time to look around could find the answer on their own.
Reps aren't privy to inside info as far as what's going on with a source and again basically serve as a buffer between the members and the source he reps.

Reps have been used as pawns to set up exit scams. One that sticks out in my mind is Imporium who employed Concrete Guy as a rep, among others. CG was well known and respected. He was used like a $10 whore when Imporium advertised their final sale that turned out to be an Exit scam. All CG could do was hang his head and say he felt badly. He should've taken out a 2nd mortgage on his home and pay back members he helped lull into a false sense of security.
He had no clue the exit scam was going to happen.
What he was aware of was that Imporium's big lie that they shoved down everyones throat was that they used Raws from Russia which they claimed were a higher quality than the Chinese raws everyone else was using.
I don't know how a guys rep recovers from something like that? I see concrete over at anasci as a moderator.

With custom and Prae its as if custom is more than your average rep? I read that he may be taking over the reigns and buying the ugl?
These people like to play us as if we buy every little thing they say. Custom is head mouthpiece of the outfit he reps. He acts as if he is one of the owners of the ugl. Has to be. He was shooting off at the mouth unchecked. If he was working for someone else he's be shitcanned for the way he handled himself and the ugl's business. He wasn't taking orders from some owner he has been in the drivers seat from the beginning.
No other rep anywhere would still have a job. Reps, for the most part are paid with product. Custom is so entrenched with Prae there's no chance he is making his little salary in product. He's in this because he pays his bills from members $$.

Finally, we only know what the staff and owner want us to know. There are times when they say too much. Thankfully there are members who pay attention to these things. They'll read something a staff member or admin posts only to find that its been deleted and gone forever. At times they reveal things they shouldn't when anger has hold of them and they let go of info that when brought up later on makes sense and reveals truths.

@BIG74 and @BigBaldBeardGuy, you guys bring up and list some of the things that ASF could do...or would have to do in order to prove that the board is indeed a member first spot dedicated to harm reduction etc. What would happen, hypothetically, if it came to be known that the owner of the board was also the owner of one of most popular ugl's on the board? What if one of the mods was the brewer of that same ugl?

Would the entire board be built on a lie, then? Who do you trust then? Let's say that some of the staff has nothing to do with the operation? I've seen it before. Its going on today. How could it not? Its the perfect...if not perfect...its the natural move to make when purchasing a board.
It was suggested that meso was running this way...anyone remember? Last Summer or Fall. A no good son of a bitch source, @kai(I don't know his handle here to tag him without going back and trying to find it. I won't lose any momentum I may have to look, I apologize)
some how got into the private emails of a member that has scammed some members here. Kai had been engaged in some shady shit of his own. Kai jumped on board claiming he was scammed along with meso members. Kai had no business bringing his issues with the member her pretending to be scammed same way as our members had.
As an international source who accepts bitcoin for payment, kai was using @Ryno3516 (is this the correct ryno?) to launder bitcoin. Ryno must've decided to get everyone for as much as he could because he laundered the bitcoin and instead of keeping his agreed upon fee kept all the bitcoin.
Understandably upset kai somehow hacked or otherwise got into ryno's emails and thought it a good idea to share them with certain members as well as a source TGI.
Rumors were started going around that @Millard Baker, @StanfordPharma, and myself were conspiring to rid meso of tgi as well as selling recs. These were baseless rumors that were started to piss off or humor those involved.

Its a business model that has been followed since the first forums went online and continues to this day.
Let's name of few; juicedmuscle.co* is has been around many, many years. Its owned by the folks that bring you Napsgear.or*. Naps, one of the original selective scamming entities.
Anabolicboard.i*(new domain) was purchased back in the early 2000's by karius to serve as a platform for his legendary lineup of ALP gear. Karius didn't stack the deck in his favor by any means as far as keeping real competition out. AB has been home to some of the best known and most respected sources the Community has ever seen.
Karius also quietly led by example and was ahead of his time testing every batch of raws and posting results of the HPLC testing. I've seen ALP be out of a product because test results weren't back on more than one occasion.
Karius also had some of the most respected staff of all time. Karius has been a friend of the Community as well as a leader. There's only one karius. Anabolicboard is a board I've been a member of since 2007.
You have boards like eroids where they have found a way to maximize profits being a paid source board without the owner actually starting a ugl of his own.
They eroids Top Ten(or whatever its called) sell the top spots to the highest bidder of to whomever is willing to pay the price tags on the top spots.
It was published when one of the sources was busted. It showed payments made with cryptocurrency for the right to be the #1 source at eroids. There are no votes or set of criteria a source must meet to claim that title. Cut a check and be done with it.

Hardcore-Underground and D-red. D-RED owns the board and at least one of the ugl's that sells openly on the board. Not one to be concerned with a federal indictment, D-red posted bond and had some new labels printed up to throw over the goldline name. The Community continues to pay his way without a care in the world.

The spotlight happens to be on ASF at the moment as far as meso is concerned for whatever reason. What model is asf following? Does admin/owner have a ugl to maximize profits. Collect board fees and then own a source that he could have his staff steer members to?
Maybe he's doing the right things where testing is concerned? Does that make it ok? Is it unfair to the other sources paying to be there? Owning the board and hiring staff members who may or may not be rewarded for steering business to the bosses brand?
Maybe only certain staff members would be aware? Would it be fair if it was made known that the board owner was himself a player?

The owner is certainly opening himself up to a different kind of heat if he were to open a ugl to compete for member money.
Owning a board where there is illegal business being conducted through or because of its existence is different than owning a website with the specific intent of operating an illegal business on it. Where do members fit in and should they be informed consumers knowing what ugl is owned by the board owner? What if a moderator for arguments sake and hypothetically speaking is the brewer of the owners ugl? Is it dirty pool not making it known? For their personal safety is it ok to keep such things secret?
 
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biggerben69 said:
I'd like to take this time to thank HFO3 for his taking the time to listen to my/our side of the story where @Cakedup aka bigmills is concerned. He's been more than receptive and cordial and for that, I thank you.
It just so happened that the cakedup/bigmills situation mixed into the thread we're discussing here because cakedup happen to see custom running his mouth talking shit to @Jswole220 and without bothering to read the entire thread to see what was going on thought he would pile on and ran his mouth.
Cakedup, as usual, looked like the fucking mope that he is when members told him he had no idea what he was talking about, etc.

Now, I'd never spoken to HFO3 before he sent me a pm at asf. I can't say that I've seen him anywhere else over the years, either. One of the other reps, Montego, I've seen elsewhere over the years but have never spoken to him and know nothing about him either.

I think its important for our members here to understand that though staff at ASF may meet in a staff thread to discuss different issues that come up that require them all be aware of whats going on, that may be the only interaction that they have with each other.
What I'm saying, is while there may be certain staff members on a board, any board, on the take it doesn't mean that they all are. It doesn't mean that one staff member is privy to what other staff members are up to.

As far as this particular rep is concerned and how he compares to other reps for other ugl's let's take a quick look; Reps, for the most part and from what I've seen, are present to run interference for the source(To be blunt).
Having a rep gives the illusion of the source being among the people. Though we can't literally see them, I imagine them with a phony smile talking up the brand and answering questions that any member who took the time to look around could find the answer on their own.
Reps aren't privy to inside info as far as what's going on with a source and again basically serve as a buffer between the members and the source he reps.

Reps have been used as pawns to set up exit scams. One that sticks out in my mind is Imporium who employed Concrete Guy as a rep, among others. CG was well known and respected. He was used like a $10 whore when Imporium advertised their final sale that turned out to be an Exit scam. All CG could do was hang his head and say he felt badly. He should've taken out a 2nd mortgage on his home and pay back members he helped lull into a false sense of security.
He had no clue the exit scam was going to happen.
What he was aware of was that Imporium's big lie that they shoved down everyones throat was that they used Raws from Russia which they claimed were a higher quality than the Chinese raws everyone else was using.
I don't know how a guys rep recovers from something like that? I see concrete over at anasci as a moderator.

With custom and Prae its as if custom is more than your average rep? I read that he may be taking over the reigns and buying the ugl?
These people like to play us as if we buy every little thing they say. Custom is head mouthpiece of the outfit he reps. He acts as if he is one of the owners of the ugl. Has to be. He was shooting off at the mouth unchecked. If he was working for someone else he's be shitcanned for the way he handled himself and the ugl's business. He wasn't taking orders from some owner he has been in the drivers seat from the beginning.
No other rep anywhere would still have a job. Reps, for the most part are paid with product. Custom is so entrenched with Prae there's no chance he is making his little salary in product. He's in this because he pays his bills from members $$.

Finally, we only know what the staff and owner want us to know. There are times when they say too much. Thankfully there are members who pay attention to these things. They'll read something a staff member or admin posts only to find that its been deleted and gone forever. At times they reveal things they shouldn't when anger has hold of them and they let go of info that when brought up later on makes sense and reveals truths.

@BIG74 and @BigBaldBeardGuy, you guys bring up and list some of the things that ASF could do...or would have to do in order to prove that the board is indeed a member first spot dedicated to harm reduction etc. What would happen, hypothetically, if it came to be known that the owner of the board was also the owner of one of most popular ugl's on the board? What if one of the mods was the brewer of that same ugl?

Would the entire board be built on a lie, then? Who do you trust then? Let's say that some of the staff has nothing to do with the operation? I've seen it before. Its going on today. How could it not? Its the perfect...if not perfect...its the natural move to make when purchasing a board.
It was suggested that meso was running this way...anyone remember? Last Summer or Fall. A no good son of a bitch source, @kai(I don't know his handle here to tag him without going back and trying to find it. I won't lose any momentum I may have to look, I apologize)
some how got into the private emails of a member that has scammed some members here. Kai had been engaged in some shady shit of his own. Kai jumped on board claiming he was scammed along with meso members. Kai had no business bringing his issues with the member her pretending to be scammed same way as our members had.
As an international source who accepts bitcoin for payment, kai was using @Ryno3516 (is this the correct ryno?) to launder bitcoin. Ryno must've decided to get everyone for as much as he could because he laundered the bitcoin and instead of keeping his agreed upon fee kept all the bitcoin.
Understandably upset kai somehow hacked or otherwise got into ryno's emails and thought it a good idea to share them with certain members as well as a source TGI.
Rumors were started going around that @Millard Baker, @StanfordPharma, and myself were conspiring to rid meso of tgi as well as selling recs. These were baseless rumors that were started to piss off or humor those involved.

Its a business model that has been followed since the first forums went online and continues to this day.
Let's name of few; juicedmuscle.co* is has been around many, many years. Its owned by the folks that bring you Napsgear.or*. Naps, one of the original selective scamming entities.
Anabolicboard.i*(new domain) was purchased back in the early 2000's by karius to serve as a platform for his legendary lineup of ALP gear. Karius didn't stack the deck in his favor by any means as far as keeping real competition out. AB has been home to some of the best known and most respected sources the Community has ever seen.
Karius also quietly led by example and was ahead of his time testing every batch of raws and posting results of the HPLC testing. I've seen ALP be out of a product because test results weren't back on more than one occasion.
Karius also had some of the most respected staff of all time. Karius has been a friend of the Community as well as a leader. There's only one karius. Anabolicboard is a board I've been a member of since 2007.
You have boards like eroids where they have found a way to maximize profits being a paid source board without the owner actually starting a ugl of his own.
They eroids Top Ten(or whatever its called) sell the top spots to the highest bidder of to whomever is willing to pay the price tags on the top spots.
It was published when one of the sources was busted. It showed payments made with cryptocurrency for the right to be the #1 source at eroids. There are no votes or set of criteria a source must meet to claim that title. Cut a check and be done with it.

Hardcore-Underground and D-red. D-RED owns the board and at least one of the ugl's that sells openly on the board. Not one to be concerned with a federal indictment, D-red posted bond and had some new labels printed up to throw over the goldline name. The Community continues to pay his way without a care in the world.

The spotlight happens to be on ASF at the moment as far as meso is concerned for whatever reason. What model is asf following? Does admin/owner have a ugl to maximize profits. Collect board fees and then own a source that he could have his staff steer members to?
Maybe he's doing the right things where testing is concerned? Does that make it ok? Is it unfair to the other sources paying to be there? Owning the board and hiring staff members who may or may not be rewarded for steering business to the bosses brand?
Maybe only certain staff members would be aware? Would it be fair if it was made known that the board owner was himself a player?

The owner is certainly opening himself up to a different kind of heat if he were to open a ugl to compete for member money.
Owning a board where there is illegal business being conducted through or because of its existence is different than owning a website with the specific intent of operating an illegal business on it. Where do members fit in and should they be informed consumers knowing what ugl is owned by the board owner? What if a moderator for arguments sake and hypothetically speaking is the brewer of the owners ugl? Is it dirty pool not making it known? For their personal safety is it ok to keep such things secret?
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Lol
This might be your longest post yet BigBen.

But good read.
it's all financially motivated.

Like you said, Eroids number 1 spot is about the payment.

Millard doesnt protect anyone here. ever.
And that's why I'm at Meso


The whole board owner and UGL owner being kne qnd the same is actually a real thing in the Canadian UGL scene.

It's known by everyone, but only spoken of on competing boards.

Really a shame.
But there will always be that kind of crap in the illegal drug trade.

That'swhy Meso is a one and only
 
Silentlemon1011 said:
Lol
This might be your longest post yet BigBen.

But good read.
it's all financially motivated.

Like you said, Eroids number 1 spot is about the payment.

Millard doesnt protect anyone here. ever.
And that's why I'm at Meso


The whole board owner and UGL owner being kne qnd the same is actually a real thing in the Canadian UGL scene.

It's known by everyone, but only spoken of on competing boards.

Really a shame.
But there will always be that kind of crap in the illegal drug trade.

That'swhy Meso is a one and only
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Just wondering whats your take on CJM that board seems good to me and it's not like they source over there and all the ones they push as good brands are actually very respected on this site such as syn and pareto top notch
 
juicy122 said:
Just wondering whats your take on CJM that board seems good to me and it's not like they source over there and all the ones they push as good brands are actually very respected on this site such as syn and pareto top notch
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We were actually just discussing that in the Canadians Talk Domestic thread.

CJM
NL
CB

Dont go to any of then anymore.

As for no sourcing,
You'll be surprised at the PMs that have been "approved" by moderators that you'll get from sources.

All the Canadian boards source, just much more incognito tha U.S
 
Silentlemon1011 said:
We were actually just discussing that in the Canadians Talk Domestic thread.

CJM
NL
CB

Dont go to any of then anymore.

As for no sourcing,
You'll be surprised at the PMs that have been "approved" by moderators that you'll get from sources.

All the Canadian boards source, just much more incognito tha U.S
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I am sure those Canadian boards have a large number of US members too maybe to score some deals on Canadian gear. Note: I am not personally on any of them :)
 
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