Wunderpus' get bigger cycle

[Mr.B66]

Yes and no. The grass is always greener, you know?

Stabbing my ass once a week (minimum) for years and years, and years to go, gets old man. But, it is what it is.

This is why i still pct, even though i have really low natty test (46ng/dl)
I still come off and run a pct. Im doing it rt now. I feel like it gives my body a chance to come back to normal for a while, which i feel is good cause you cant run on turbo forever. And honestly i feel really good, im little over 3 weeks in and feel energetic and happy. Its funny how much more patient and pleasant i am with people even when they kinda irritate me.
Only downside, loss of size ( 9lbs so far) strength and last and certainly not least zero sex drive, and i have a hot wife[emoji17]

 

[Wunderpus]

This is why i still pct, even though i have really low natty test (46ng/dl)
I still come off and run a pct. Im doing it rt now. I feel like it gives my body a chance to come back to normal for a while, which i feel is good cause you cant run on turbo forever. And honestly i feel really good, im little over 3 weeks in and feel energetic and happy. Its funny how much more patient and pleasant i am with people even when they kinda irritate me.
Only downside, loss of size ( 9lbs so far) strength and last and certainly not least zero sex drive, and i have a hot wife[emoji17]

In red is exactly why I'd rather TRT.... Personal choice, I get your standpoint too.

@RThoads being sick blows. It's weird, normally I don't get sick. This year has been unusually bad for me.... Yes, the results have been noticeable, but nowhere near what I was hoping/expecting. Oh well.

 

[HuckingFuge]

***UPDATE***

Fuck guys, I still just can't get out of my funk. Still feeling like shit, running at 50% for the last week. Everyone in the office is various stages of sick, I have been on the edge of REALLY sick for a few days, irritating. Sometimes I struggle with these situations, do I power though and workout, or take it easy? Hmm.

Oddly enough, I am still waking up looking marginally better everyday. Diet has been more or less clean throughout this down period, so that's helped. The gym has been weird, my strength has been pretty impressive, but my endurance has been fucked. I feel hot and tired after about 40 minutes, get frustrated, and leave. It's really unlike me to do that....

Anyway, I hope you all are having a better week than I am! Don't get sick!

start throwing down 5g to 10g vitamin C.

 

[Wunderpus]

start throwing down 5g to 10g vitamin C.

I will starting today :0

thanks huck

 

[HuckingFuge]

This is why i still pct, even though i have really low natty test (46ng/dl)
I still come off and run a pct. Im doing it rt now. I feel like it gives my body a chance to come back to normal for a while, which i feel is good cause you cant run on turbo forever. And honestly i feel really good, im little over 3 weeks in and feel energetic and happy. Its funny how much more patient and pleasant i am with people even when they kinda irritate me.
Only downside, loss of size ( 9lbs so far) strength and last and certainly not least zero sex drive, and i have a hot wife[emoji17]

the problem with your way is your body accepts being old and it is harder to get back to being younger each time you do this. I had to go off all AAS for 3 months back in 2011. I went from 213lbs to 185lbs. that was the worst thing I could of done to my body. my body adjusted to my age at the time. talk about ouch with my job it has been a bitch to get back on track.

 

[Mr.B66]

In red is exactly why I'd rather TRT.... Personal choice, I get your standpoint too.

@RThoads being sick blows. It's weird, normally I don't get sick. This year has been unusually bad for me.... Yes, the results have been noticeable, but nowhere near what I was hoping/expecting. Oh well.

Yup i realize that what i do isnt for everybody, im just holding off committing to trt. Control freak kinda thing!!!!
Also im worried about potential health issues of lifetime trt , say.... 150-200mg per week. Would love to pick hucks mind to find out the pro's and con's.

 

[HuckingFuge]

Yup i realize that what i do isnt for everybody, im just holding off committing to trt. Control freak kinda thing!!!!
Also im worried about potential health issues of lifetime trt , say.... 150-200mg per week. Would love to pick hucks mind to find out the pro's and con's.

AAS and HGH is the fountain of youth. the only con is you might get gyno, but if your on top of AI's no cons at all.

 

[Mr.B66]

the problem with your way is your body accepts being old and it is harder to get back to being younger each time you do this. I had to go off all AAS for 3 months back in 2011. I went from 213lbs to 185lbs. that was the worst thing I could of done to my body. my body adjusted to my age at the time. talk about ouch with my job it has been a bitch to get back on track.

Wow!!! You know what, i did a 3 year low dose run(200mg) test and came off for 7 months went from 205 to 167[emoji17] and it fucking sucked, everybody asking "what happened to you? You ok ? Sick ? How come you lost soooo much size. Well didnt recover after 7 months so im back BUT i cant seem to get back to where i left off strength wise and putting on size is a little harder as well.
Shit i got some thinking to do cause i DONT want to let my body catch up to my age.

 

[Wunderpus]

AAS and HGH is the fountain of youth. the only con is you might get gyno, but if your on top of AI's no cons at all.

I'm thinking of just getting the surgery so I don't flip the fuck out everytime I notice some puffiness or really have to worry about it at all. Obviously proper E2 control is huge, but gyno is the worst short-term symptom.

 

[HuckingFuge]

Wow!!! You know what, i did a 3 year low dose run(200mg) test and came off for 7 months went from 205 to 167[emoji17] and it fucking sucked, everybody asking "what happened to you? You ok ? Sick ? How come you lost soooo much size. Well didnt recover after 7 months so im back BUT i cant seem to get back to where i left off strength wise and putting on size is a little harder as well.
Shit i got some thinking to do cause i DONT want to let my body catch up to my age.

I wouldn't of lost shit if I could of kept on TRT. I was stuck in an 8 man open bay room, so you know how snooping and thieving people are, so I left gear at home. boy did those 3 months suck. you are so very right you do not want your age to catch up to you. that was how age caught up to me. your body is designed to age from reduction in hormone production. if you keep your hormones high your aging is slowed, if not stalled.

 

[HuckingFuge]

I'm thinking of just getting the surgery so I don't flip the fuck out everytime I notice some puffiness or really have to worry about it at all. Obviously proper E2 control is huge, but gyno is the worst short-term symptom.

I have minor gyno showing, but that is mainly from my chest shrinking up. if I get my size back my gyno will blend into my chest like it use too. I mean everyone has some sort of breast tissue. if I had money laying around I'd get the surgery too

 

[Mr.B66]

Thanks for sharing your insight on this Huck, ive been wanting to ask you these questions for some time but didnt know how to start the topic and didnt want to intrude with a pm.
Sorry for the hijack wunder, ill stop now[emoji4]

 

[RThoads]

I'm thinking of just getting the surgery so I don't flip the fuck out everytime I notice some puffiness or really have to worry about it at all. Obviously proper E2 control is huge, but gyno is the worst short-term symptom.

I have minor gyno showing, but that is mainly from my chest shrinking up. if I get my size back my gyno will blend into my chest like it use too. I mean everyone has some sort of breast tissue. if I had money laying around I'd get the surgery too

I have it from puberty -- I did go to a doc back then but he was a fool and told me the huge hard lumps were normal...
I get a lot of jokes and negative comments, mostly people close to me just giving me shit, but it still sucks--I mean when your GF says shit like "oh you are getting nicer tits than me" it fucking sucks. Without an AI I was up to 70 E2 on just 100 mg/week TRT earlier in the year. I was eating a grapefruit a day though and I read that may interfere with E2 metabolism and clearing. I have gotten good at knowing right away the signs my E2 is elevated and I handle it with Tamoxifen and AIs but I am not going to lie, I would feel much better if I did get the surgery--what prevents me is mainly cost and fear of a bad job leaving shit looking bad.

A relative also had it but his doc got it taken care of and his chest looks much better as an adult--wish my parents were educated and could have known a good doc from a slacker.

 

[Wunderpus]

I have it from puberty -- I did go to a doc back then but he was a fool and told me the huge hard lumps were normal...
I get a lot of jokes and negative comments, mostly people close to me just giving me shit, but it still sucks--I mean when your GF says shit like "oh you are getting nicer tits than me" it fucking sucks. Without an AI I was up to 70 E2 on just 100 mg/week TRT earlier in the year. I was eating a grapefruit a day though and I read that may interfere with E2 metabolism and clearing. I have gotten good at knowing right away the signs my E2 is elevated and I handle it with Tamoxifen and AIs but I am not going to lie, I would feel much better if I did get the surgery--what prevents me is mainly cost and fear of a bad job leaving shit looking bad.

A relative also had it but his doc got it taken care of and his chest looks much better as an adult--wish my parents were educated and could have known a good doc from a slacker.

Yeah, I am sorry to hear that. I have very slight gyno from puberty too, you can really only see it if you look, though. It bothers me tremendously, I cannot imagine what you go through. Let me know if you look into the surgery and what your findings are. Seems like it's more or less $5K said and done. Not too bad, the tits my girl wants are like 9K.

 

[RThoads]

Yeah, I am sorry to hear that. I have very slight gyno from puberty too, you can really only see it if you look, though. It bothers me tremendously, I cannot imagine what you go through. Let me know if you look into the surgery and what your findings are. Seems like it's more or less $5K said and done. Not too bad, the tits my girl wants are like 9K.

If I stay in shape, and like @HuckingFuge mentioned, keep my size up with muscle it does not look bad to those that are not looking for it (after all about 30% of men have gyno naturally). But damn if I mess up a little with E2 then it is obvious.
lol in a way, it is like I got a built in E2 indicator because seriously as soon as I rise above about 35 on E2 I get a spore lump.

If I ever decide to go under the knife I will make a thread here on MESO so people can learn -- but right now I am undecided and just hope I have it all under control because at this point it is tolerable.

fucking LMAO you crack me up with the price comparison for the tits your girl wants -- that is awesome -- maybe save up and go to the same consecutive surgery clinic and get a bulk discount together. Shit, go big like and get her enough bulk and maybe ask for yours free haha

 

[rigs03]

@HuckingFuge @Wunderpus
What are your guys views on hcg use for blasting and cruising/trt? Do you run it on blast and come off it when cruising? Or just not use it at all?

Also hey Wunder whenever I'm feeling on the verge of being sick but not totally under the weather yet, I slam emergen-c or airborne and start popping Dayquil immediately. It seems to help those cases where you might be getting sick but aren't sure- and hopefully decreases the length of the cold if you do end up full blown sick.

 

[Wunderpus]

@HuckingFuge @Wunderpus
What are your guys views on hcg use for blasting and cruising/trt? Do you run it on blast and come off it when cruising? Or just not use it at all?

Also hey Wunder whenever I'm feeling on the verge of being sick but not totally under the weather yet, I slam emergen-c or airborne and start popping Dayquil immediately. It seems to help those cases where you might be getting sick but aren't sure- and hopefully decreases the length of the cold if you do end up full blown sick.

I run HCG every 6 weeks or so, 150iu's a day for 10 days. IDK if it makes much of difference or not, but it can't hurt.

 

[HuckingFuge]

Thanks for sharing your insight on this Huck, ive been wanting to ask you these questions for some time but didnt know how to start the topic and didnt want to intrude with a pm.
Sorry for the hijack wunder, ill stop now[emoji4]

you can ask me anything you want.

 

[HuckingFuge]

@HuckingFuge @Wunderpus
What are your guys views on hcg use for blasting and cruising/trt? Do you run it on blast and come off it when cruising? Or just not use it at all?

Also hey Wunder whenever I'm feeling on the verge of being sick but not totally under the weather yet, I slam emergen-c or airborne and start popping Dayquil immediately. It seems to help those cases where you might be getting sick but aren't sure- and hopefully decreases the length of the cold if you do end up full blown sick.

I don't run HCG, cause I don't want to spend the money on it yet. nothing wrong with the idea of running HCG during your cruise.

 

[rigs03]

you can ask me anything you want.

I usually don't ask because your avi scares me off [emoji20]

I don't run HCG, cause I don't want to spend the money on it yet. nothing wrong with the idea of running HCG during your cruise.

Yeah I used to use it when I cycled but stopped once I started b&c. No real reason, Just because. However my nuts have finally gotten to the point where they are begging me to do something about them.