Cyp/Tren/Primo Cut

[Mechanic]

You’re just a looser man - u talk bullshit

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[Mechanic]

Yes it does,all "cutting" steroids do to a degree (Winstrol has the strongest anti cortisol effect i believe).But if you keep missing out on quality sleep cortisol will raise no matter what you take and cortisol easily "overpowers" every other hormone in the human body.

Source? Would like to see some info on how exactly cortisol would overpower any other hormone. Thanks!

 

[Mechanic]

227lb this morning. Took some pics. Of course the bathroom pic looks the best. But interesting, I also took a side-by-side of when I started my bulk at 223, and compared it to now; I'm basically bigger but the same leanness. View attachment 163935View attachment 163936View attachment 163938View attachment 163937
223 before winter bulk vs 227 during cut.

Looking sharp man, great progress!

 

[Deleted member 123722]

The question is now, how much longer do I take the Tren E? I have two 10cc bottles left, which is another 10 weeks, but that's quite long at 400mg per week. I could soldier through it, since 5mg melatonin does the trick to solve the trensomnia, and I feel now the Tren is really kicking in maximally.

I did run 200mg for 6 months and my bloods were fine after I checked. Maybe I'll run it for another five weeks, then save the last bottle for a low-dose use later on. Either way, the test and primo are staying at 400mg each.

 

[Deleted member 123722]

Actually, I have three 10cc bottles lol. So that's another 15 weeks left at 400mg, which I'm certainly not going to do; probably another 5-7 weeks max on tren. We'll see.

 

[Deleted member 123722]

Slowly but surely. I could have lost fat much faster, but I'm doing it slowly, eating around 2700 calories now. These are weeks 1, 4, 6, 10

 

[Deleted member 123722]

225 this am

 

[Deleted member 123722]

Ok. Took wife on a dinner date to our favorite Japanese restaurant. Ate whatever I wanted, but not completely over the top; meal was probably 2k calories or so. I was stuffed. Later that night, ate some veggie straws and a raspberry ice pop.

Woke up today at 222 lol.

 

[Geartrip]

Unlike the disastrous "1g deca experiment" log, this won't be a daily log, but I will post pictures here and there as I progress on my cut. I learned how to eat right from @NBE, but I created my own approach, and ran it buy him; he gave me the green light. I will consult with him should I reach any plateaus, but I'm quite confident I won't be.

My current cycle (started Feb 21st):

Cyp: 360mg wk
Tren E: 400 mg wk
Primo E: 400 wk
T3: 50mcg ed
5iu: GH ED

Still taking intra of creatine, glutamine, eaa, with sugar-free gatorade; although I think it's totally useless for me, since I realize I'm not a creatine responder, but I have a fuck ton left, so why not finish it all anyway? Can't hurt.

Workout Regiment:

Low-volume (Yates-style) PPL, 6x a week with Sunday off. All I do a warm up, then 12 rep set to technical failure; final death set: 6-8 reps, drop weight 6 reps to complete failure at 12 total reps. Only two exercises per muscle group per session, except back gets 3, and quads and hams each get 3.

Cardio: PWO 30 mins on treadmill at 3mph; leg days I'll do 10 mins on cycle for warm up, then 20 mins PWO.

My Diet:
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I basically eat these foods every day, but I'm not counting or logging these everyday; this is just my menu and total calories.

So far these are the results in just three weeks: Feb, 10th at 240lbs vs Today (March 4th) at 235lbs

Literally only two weeks on my cycle and seeing dramatic changes. (love tren lol).

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So hows the cycke still going? Im useing 600 test e, 500 primo and 2 iu hgh, was thinking of adding small does of tren a maybe 200mg

 

[Deleted member 123722]

So hows the cycke still going? Im useing 600 test e, 500 primo and 2 iu hgh, was thinking of adding small does of tren a maybe 200mg

cycle is going fine...basically no sides, but a bit of trensominia some nights which I take a melatonin to deal with.

 

[Geartrip]

cycle is going fine...basically no sides, but a bit of trensominia some nights which I take a melatonin to deal with.

I was running 350 tren a earlier this year and had trensomina bad, ambien and melatonin didnt help.
You feel as if the primo and tren together works well? I see some people say a person is just wasteing money useing primo with tren.

 

[Deleted member 123722]

I was running 350 tren a earlier this year and had trensomina bad, ambien and melatonin didnt help.
You feel as if the primo and tren together works well? I see some people say a person is just wasteing money useing primo with tren.

the primo doesn't just stop working because of the tren lol... its a great combo. I ran primo and test alone and it was great; tren is the icing on the cake.

 

[Geartrip]

the primo doesn't just stop working because of the tren lol... its a great combo. I ran primo and test alone and it was great; tren is the icing on the cake.

Im gonna give it a go, thanks man.

 

[Deleted member 123722]

Anyone know a source on here that sells the Astralean clenbuterols? I plan to run the clen in its place when I run out, so I can let my thyroid recover.

 

[Albozz]

Why clen when you can get ephedrine otc in your country?

 

[Deleted member 123722]

Why clen when you can get ephedrine otc in your country?

IDK, I assumed clen is must better? Are you suggestion ECA stack is superior to clen?

 

[Ferenor]

Anyone know a source on here that sells the Astralean clenbuterols? I plan to run the clen in its place when I run out, so I can let my thyroid recover.

I suppose you are in the US, BG pharmaceuticals theoretically ships to US. His pharma clenbuterol is good.

 

[Deleted member 123722]

It's like week 10 doing PPL for my cut, and I'm starting to feel "fatigue" is rolling over into other work outs. I've noticed that the weights I'm using are going down, not because I'm actually weaker, but I don't have the energy; and its not that I'm even tired in the gym, my workouts are still intense. The only changes I made in my training was dropping the HIT approach, and doing straight sets for 3 total working sets. I even shortened rest periods to only a minute in between. This may be the issue, or perhaps just doing PPL for this long with cardio after each session, with only one day eventually catches up.

Mind you, I'm on 400mg of Tren and shouldn't be losing any strength at all, so something is going on here.

I may have to switch to back to a bro split 5x a week for a while, but keeping the cardio unchanged. Thing is, I love hitting everything twice a week, and I rather not going back to a bro split. The PPL plus cardio has allowed me to lose fat while eating way more calories, all while not feeling hungry. If I were to go to back to a bro split, that's one less workout day. I guess I could make that day off an hour of cardio to make up for it?

I could also take a deload week and see how I feel after that. Curious what others think.

 

[Albozz]

IDK, I assumed clen is must better? Are you suggestion ECA stack is superior to clen?

In many ways.In terms of fatburning properties i would say eca and clen are equal,clen makes you stronger and you can breathe like a horse but everything else is worse and im not even speaking about the dangerous side effects of clen like constant anxiety,restlessness or that it might kill off your heartcells.I have used both for a looong time if i had the possibility to get ephedrine otc i would never use anything else.You will also look super flat on clen.Eca in comparison is very mild and has a natural boost feeling if that makes sense.Energy,stamina,amazing pump,vascularity,diuretic effect,better pain tolerance,suppressed hunger..These are all the benefits that i get.The sides shouldn't be underestimated tho which include elevated blood pressure,heartburn,tolerance build-up,harsher rebound effect then clen,cns fatigue/ withdrawal syndromes coming off,addiction.Everyone i know prefers eca over clen simply for the fact that you feel good on eca and horrible on clen.

 

[Albozz]

It's like week 10 doing PPL for my cut, and I'm starting to feel "fatigue" is rolling over into other work outs. I've noticed that the weights I'm using are going down, not because I'm actually weaker, but I don't have the energy; and its not that I'm even tired in the gym, my workouts are still intense. The only changes I made in my training was dropping the HIT approach, and doing straight sets for 3 total working sets. I even shortened rest periods to only a minute in between. This may be the issue, or perhaps just doing PPL for this long with cardio after each session, with only one day eventually catches up.

Mind you, I'm on 400mg of Tren and shouldn't be losing any strength at all, so something is going on here.

I may have to switch to back to a bro split 5x a week for a while, but keeping the cardio unchanged. Thing is, I love hitting everything twice a week, and I rather not going back to a bro split. The PPL plus cardio has allowed me to lose fat while eating way more calories, all while not feeling hungry. If I were to go to back to a bro split, that's one less workout day. I guess I could make that day off an hour of cardio to make up for it?

I could also take a deload week and see how I feel after that. Curious what others think.

Youre overthinking brother.If youre in a caloric deficit for a long time you simply have to accept the fact that you will lose strength and feel like a zombie after a while.As long as fat loss doesn't stagnate and you keep your muscle mass i wouldn't change anything. And you made great progress so far.