Hair Loss

[AlexDavis43]

Anyone keep their hair by just running high test and fin/dut?

Probably. I discontinued duta almost a year ago but still use topical RU and minox daily. Still have a good head of hair; no visible shedding or thinning.

*if your parents hair is a good indicator of genetic predisposition, that doesn't bode well for me. So maybe these drugs work. Time will tell.

 

[connoristiny]

Anyone home brew minox blends at high concentration like 8-12%. ?

Even with heat my 70 /30 ethanol (200 proof) and PG eventually crashes on me.

Would PEG 300 /EO be useful here?

Thanks.

are the higher concentrations more effective than the traditional 5% based on ur experience?

 

[hyooge]

Anybody have experience to share with RU or pyrilutamide?
These seem like the least invasive options, curious about trying some.

 

[Rampant_S]

Anybody have experience to share with RU or pyrilutamide?
These seem like the least invasive options, curious about trying some.

I've been using RU since early Dec 2023. No negative effects at all to speak of. either some people are hyper sensitive (less likely) or people are paranoid and placebo themselves into thinking one single dose of RU is killing them (more likely). My hair is doing well but I'm on minoxidil, RU, and a few other things so it's sort of impossible to tell exactly what RU is doing specifically for my overall success. I will say in the past, with minoxidil, I would get tons of tiny light colored hairs, but now with RU a good number of those hairs are turning dark, which is great

 

[hyooge]

I've been using RU since early Dec 2023. No negative effects at all to speak of. either some people are hyper sensitive (less likely) or people are paranoid and placebo themselves into thinking one single dose of RU is killing them (more likely). My hair is doing well but I'm on minoxidil, RU, and a few other things so it's sort of impossible to tell exactly what RU is doing specifically for my overall success. I will say in the past, with minoxidil, I would get tons of tiny light colored hairs, but now with RU a good number of those hairs are turning dark, which is great

Nice. I think I will give pyri a go. Not even sure I have hairloss but seems like a nice adjunct when using harsh DHT derivatives.

 

[Rampant_S]

Nice. I think I will give pyri a go. Not even sure I have hairloss but seems like a nice adjunct when using harsh DHT derivatives.

as everyone with any degree of hair loss will tell you, it's easier to prevent and maintain than it is to stop loss and then regrow hair. If you are on any anabolics at all, I'd honestly recommend Topical Dutasteride and some kind of topical anti androgen. If I had to start over, it'd be on the list of ancillaries that I would have had on my must-have list, alongside things like telmisartan, rosuvastatin, and ezetimibe.

 

[hyooge]

as everyone with any degree of hair loss will tell you, it's easier to prevent and maintain than it is to stop loss and then regrow hair. If you are on any anabolics at all, I'd honestly recommend Topical Dutasteride and some kind of topical anti androgen. If I had to start over, it'd be on the list of ancillaries that I would have had on my must-have list, alongside things like telmisartan, rosuvastatin, and ezetimibe.

Yeah that is kind of what I thought.
I am avoiding all 5α-reductase inhibitors. I think I will shave it off before having to suffer low DHT haha. Will check topical dutasteride, maybe a low dose?

 

[Eddie.]

I received RU from minoxidilmax couple days ago and next week i'm starting it when i introduce primo to the test. I'm already taking 5% minoxidil twice per day and ketoconazole shampoo 2-3 times per week. I have to start dermaroller too but i'm just being lazy..

Yeah that is kind of what I thought.
I am avoiding all 5α-reductase inhibitors. I think I will shave it off before having to suffer low DHT haha. Will check topical dutasteride, maybe a low dose?

I don't know about duta but with topical finasteride you still have chances to experience the same side effects, in a lesser degree probably. It will go systemic once it's absorbed.

 

[hyooge]

I received RU from minoxidilmax couple days ago and next week i'm starting it when i introduce primo to the test. I'm already taking 5% minoxidil twice per day and ketoconazole shampoo 2-3 times per week. I have to start dermaroller too but i'm just being lazy..



I don't know about duta but with topical finasteride you still have chances to experience the same side effects, in a lesser degree probably. It will go systemic once it's absorbed.

I will start pyri. I am cautious about adding dermarolling as I want to avoid any systemic effects from the topical, but it does seem to work well in cases I have seen.

 

[DarkStalker]

Just got my minoxidyl bottles and was wondering if I should buy finasteride powder to add in the bottles already made..

 

[AlexDavis43]

I am cautious about adding dermarolling as I want to avoid any systemic effects from the topical, but it does seem to work well in cases I have seen.

General advice is to not apply topicals the same day you microneedle or dermaroll. Seems reasonable since you're only doing it 1-2x/wk.

 

[Chadmax]

Awesome post! I’ve been using nizoral and minidoxil for a couple months and have seen some more growth

 

[AlexDavis43]

Awesome post! I’ve been using nizoral and minidoxil for a couple months and have seen some more growth

Glad it's working for you.

*note for other readers: this is not a typical response. These drugs are better at preventing further hair thinning then they are at producing more hair growth.

 

[swiftque]

I got a hair transplant an about a month ago. It was recommended after the procedure that I give dermarolling/microneedling another try. I currently use ru 55841, minox, and finasteride.

I ordered a 1.5mm dermaroller (coming from a .5mm) off of Amazon and used if for about 30 seconds before giving up again. My scalp is either extremely sensitive, I’m a bitch, or a combo of both.

I ordered a Dr. Pen Ultimate M8 microneedler and some 16 pin cartridges to give this one last try. HUGE difference. I’m going to start using this once every week or two.

If you can’t tolerate dermarolling, give a microneedle pen a try. I’m sure someone else has already recommended this, but there’s much less discomfort.

 

[AlexDavis43]

If you can’t tolerate dermarolling, give a microneedle pen a try. I’m sure someone else has already recommended this, but there’s much less discomfort.

Microneedling might also be better. Something about dermarolling tearing the skin vs just poking holes (microdamage).

I don't recall the science but anyway I prefer Dr Pen.

 

[connoristiny]

Microneedling might also be better. Something about dermarolling tearing the skin vs just poking holes (microdamage).

I don't recall the science but anyway I prefer Dr Pen.

I got a hair transplant an about a month ago. It was recommended after the procedure that I give dermarolling/microneedling another try. I currently use ru 55841, minox, and finasteride.

I ordered a 1.5mm dermaroller (coming from a .5mm) off of Amazon and used if for about 30 seconds before giving up again. My scalp is either extremely sensitive, I’m a bitch, or a combo of both.

I ordered a Dr. Pen Ultimate M8 microneedler and some 16 pin cartridges to give this one last try. HUGE difference. I’m going to start using this once every week or two.

If you can’t tolerate dermarolling, give a microneedle pen a try. I’m sure someone else has already recommended this, but there’s much less discomfort.

really a manual dermaroller is more painful than an automatic pen?

 

[Eddie.]

General advice is to not apply topicals the same day you microneedle or dermaroll. Seems reasonable since you're only doing it 1-2x/wk.

Man, definitely. I wonder how some guys insist you get better absorption if you apply topicals after rolling, dude it's an open wound and you pour chemicals that are meant for your scalp skin and not your bloodstream, jeez! With a tiny dermaroller at least 12 hours, with a bigger one if the penetration is susbstantial i would wait at least a full day. You don't mess your protocol for skipping one day.

I ordered a 1.5mm dermaroller (coming from a .5mm) off of Amazon and used if for about 30 seconds before giving up again. My scalp is either extremely sensitive, I’m a bitch, or a combo of both.

I ordered a Dr. Pen Ultimate M8 microneedler and some 16 pin cartridges to give this one last try. HUGE difference. I’m going to start using this once every week or two.

If you can’t tolerate dermarolling, give a microneedle pen a try. I’m sure someone else has already recommended this, but there’s much less discomfort.

Pen is superior to all but it costs more. Not that much though, i think you can find em with 100 bucks? Also there is another device which is somewhat in the middle of dermaroller and dermapen. It's the dermastamp, it's actually like a stamp with tiny needles. Many people use this.

 

[Smashshit]

Anyone have experience with 5mg daily minoxidil for hair thinning on the crown of the head only? My hair line is great but thinning pretty bad in the crown since being on b&c for a couple years. I’ve been using topical for 3 months but it makes my hair sticky and it’s just inconvenient twice a day so my doc gave me the oral version to try. Just wondering others experience with that particular case.

 

[leepriest_doshapemontado]

Anyone have experience with 5mg daily minoxidil for hair thinning on the crown of the head only? My hair line is great but thinning pretty bad in the crown since being on b&c for a couple years. I’ve been using topical for 3 months but it makes my hair sticky and it’s just inconvenient twice a day so my doc gave me the oral version to try. Just wondering others experience with that particular case.

i use 2.5mg oral+ topical once a day, but like 2-4ml to cover all scalp
i feel topical give more results, with that said i also use 2.5mg oral minox since late 2021, i tried 5 mg for a while but i what i saw was lot more body hair.
one time i also drop topical minox for 3 months and even with 5mg oral minox, i lost some ground, so...

 

[Eddie.]

Has anyone tried scalp micropigmentation? As an easier and way more affordable way to cover the scalp instead of doing a transplant. I'm looking for the shaved look smp in the internet and i really dig it. You still have no hair but it looks like you have and you trim it down. Only downside i see at least with that mini research, for that look you have to shave your head eod to not look weird. I guess the other types of smp just fill the blanks between your hair.