I'm interested in RU but worried about heart sides. I already have svt. Also have a baby in the house so worried about exposure with her too.
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DarkStalker
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can you add ru raw in your minoxydil bottle (pg) ?
Eddie.
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Yes, if you have ru powder that's the best way way. In 60ml solution add 3gr ru for twice a day applying. If your minoxidil is over 10% strong and you apply once a day better add some more powder.
DarkStalker
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Thanks, I have 5% minoxidyl lotion in a 60ml solution.
Just putting my own hair stack for an update:
Oral dutasteride (I had been taking oral fin to maintain hair for 20y but last year when I started TRT the extra DHT did some damage to hair and thinned it out a bit. Hairline is fine because I had a few grafts planted few years ago.
Oral minox 2.5 mg daily. On advice of hair surgeon not sure if it does anything. Just been taking it.
Topical minox 5% for 20 yrs. But since getting raws last year I’ve home brewed 8% blend for myself. Sprinkle some dut raw in there also.
RU 5%
I had good exp w pyralutamide but feel it’s too expensive and haven’t found a Chinese supplier. I cringe buying anything from USA based scalpers , whether gear or peptides or hair stuff. RU I just brew the 5%
Daily keto 2% shampoo.
Gear I’ve been running
Test 200-300 per week
Primo 500-900
Mast 700
Couple of cycles of tren at 500-700 as part of the above stack.
Oh and winstrol. Basically the worst hair gear lol.
No issues.
The ONLY time I got shedding was when I was rh bing 800 primo and I added 100ng daily injectable winny. With 50 mg I’ve had no issues.
It could also be because the dut nukes my natty DHT so there’s less overall load. If I weren’t systemically nuking it I’d pay attn to the overall load. Even if using topical anti androgens like RU
Oral dutasteride (I had been taking oral fin to maintain hair for 20y but last year when I started TRT the extra DHT did some damage to hair and thinned it out a bit. Hairline is fine because I had a few grafts planted few years ago.
Oral minox 2.5 mg daily. On advice of hair surgeon not sure if it does anything. Just been taking it.
Topical minox 5% for 20 yrs. But since getting raws last year I’ve home brewed 8% blend for myself. Sprinkle some dut raw in there also.
RU 5%
I had good exp w pyralutamide but feel it’s too expensive and haven’t found a Chinese supplier. I cringe buying anything from USA based scalpers , whether gear or peptides or hair stuff. RU I just brew the 5%
Daily keto 2% shampoo.
Gear I’ve been running
Test 200-300 per week
Primo 500-900
Mast 700
Couple of cycles of tren at 500-700 as part of the above stack.
Oh and winstrol. Basically the worst hair gear lol.
No issues.
The ONLY time I got shedding was when I was rh bing 800 primo and I added 100ng daily injectable winny. With 50 mg I’ve had no issues.
It could also be because the dut nukes my natty DHT so there’s less overall load. If I weren’t systemically nuking it I’d pay attn to the overall load. Even if using topical anti androgens like RU
juststarting
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How soon do you see hair loss and is it usually within a certain time so you know if it will affect you or not?
I take pics. Hairline. Top. Crown. Been doing that for twenty years. Also mix it up and try taking it with short or wet hair
So tried fin before and stopped after 5 months cause felt like it wasn't working. Recently decided to give it another go. I'm about 4 months in and having a real bad shed right now. Thinking I'm a loss cause. Going to see a hair transplant specialist next week but not even sure there's much they can do for me. Prob just gonna give up and do the ole shave.
First pic is before fin. Overall thinning.
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2nd pic is currently with hair dry. 4 months on fin. Hair looks and feels dead.
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3rd pic. Incoming terrible. This is after apply rosemary oil I wanted the hairs to get stuck together so you can get a real good look at scalp. Not sure if there's tiny hairs coming in or not. But shows you really how bad it is. Not sure if there's little hairs coming in. I
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First pic is before fin. Overall thinning.
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2nd pic is currently with hair dry. 4 months on fin. Hair looks and feels dead.
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3rd pic. Incoming terrible. This is after apply rosemary oil I wanted the hairs to get stuck together so you can get a real good look at scalp. Not sure if there's tiny hairs coming in or not. But shows you really how bad it is. Not sure if there's little hairs coming in. I
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leepriest_doshapemontado
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Even with transplant you need to be on fin or dutSo tried fin before and stopped after 5 months cause felt like it wasn't working. Recently decided to give it another go. I'm about 4 months in and having a real bad shed right now. Thinking I'm a loss cause. Going to see a hair transplant specialist next week but not even sure there's much they can do for me. Prob just gonna give up and do the ole shave.
First pic is before fin. Overall thinning.
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2nd pic is currently with hair dry. 4 months on fin. Hair looks and feels dead.
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3rd pic. Incoming terrible. This is after apply rosemary oil I wanted the hairs to get stuck together so you can get a real good look at scalp. Not sure if there's tiny hairs coming in or not. But shows you really how bad it is. Not sure if there's little hairs coming in. I
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Yea but if it's making my hair worse is it even worth it?
leepriest_doshapemontado
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many times it get worst before get better
u need to be on fin at minimum 6 months , but for what isee lots of people only start seeing results after 12 months some only almost 24 months, and even with the improvement its normalto have sheds going afew step backs but always better than NO FIN.
If you don´t control your hair loss with fin/dut before HT and continue the use , for sure you will loose results real quick,
what was your FIN dosage? are y using steroids?
u need to be on fin at minimum 6 months , but for what isee lots of people only start seeing results after 12 months some only almost 24 months, and even with the improvement its normalto have sheds going afew step backs but always better than NO FIN.
If you don´t control your hair loss with fin/dut before HT and continue the use , for sure you will loose results real quick,
what was your FIN dosage? are y using steroids?
So I started fin 1 mg March of 2023. Ran it until August where I lowered the dose to .5 mg a day. Didn't seem like it was helping so I dropped it late October. After a month of being off it I decided to try it again. So I started 1 mg again in December 2023 and currently have been on it until now. I am on trt 150 mgs test a week
leepriest_doshapemontado
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dont know what you re doing between march and august, but if you have more androgens than natural, fin could not be enough... even with natty status fin take a lot of time to stop or slow hair loss, and cant even work, thats why people hop in high dose Dutasteride.
If you really concerned with hair loss, my advice is use fin/or duta and others things. even more with trt.
if you do HT you may hold the results for 1 or 3years who knows, but probably going to lose a lot of density, and going for a second HT or even a third HT and by that time your donor area is cooked, and trust if you are even hair loss now with the HT will acelerate that fall, meaning you will loose a lot of native hair , that give density and natural look ...
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Thanks. I just don't get why my hair looks worse on fin though. If it's lowering dht it should at least be somewhat better or at least the same not a worst?
leepriest_doshapemontado
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test your DHT without FIN and 2 months ON FIN 1mg,
Bro if you really want to slow down or stop hair loss, sadly you need to be on FIN or DUTASTERIDE and even that can´t be enough. sometimes we need high DUT dosage and other shits even more on TRT / Steroids
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Without fin it was 117. Normal values are between 12 and 65. I gotta check it while on fin
leepriest_doshapemontado
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my values DHT come in Pg/ml
my normal is 500 pg/ml
one time i stopped fin but done blood a few weeks after and my DHT was like 250 pg/ml
For example with 300mg testosterone my total test was 1300ng/dl, DHT :841pg/ml without fin , first few weeks i noticed my hair getting worst , not shedding but thiner, well i start fin and ru58841 and it hold my hair.
you can have low normal DHT values and have hair loss, is about how sensitive is your hair do DHT.
Thanks I'm also on Lisinopril and metoprolol for bp. Not sure if that could have an effect on hair
leepriest_doshapemontado
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dont know but probably nothing compared with 150mg of test.
stick to it longer. even with treatments that are working very well, you will go through shedding phases where your hair will look worse. 6 months is the bare minimum length of time you should be on a treatment, 1 year is ideal to really see results
I've been on a pretty strong stack for about 4 months now, and my hair is a little better, and I see small hairs popping up I believe. I'm sure once I drop my dose to 150mg test/week it will get get even better even faster. That being said I'm really not expecting to see any really noticeable differences in my hair until 6-8 months from now tbh. until then I "think" it's working, and I trust that it'll work, but hair recovery/maintenance is definitely a waiting game, be patient.
if I were you I would just get one of those services that does a combined topical or combined oral formulation of finasteride and minoxidil and just take it for a year and then compare where you are then to where you are now.
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