malfeasance
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It's still legal to import them as a pistol. Then you register on a Form 1 as an SBR and install the stock.
JDI Firearms imports Sigs.
They are stupid expensive, though.
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JDI Firearms imports Sigs.
They are stupid expensive, though.
malfeasance
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You can get the .22 version 522, for a few hundred bucks, if you just want to plink in the backyard. https://www.gunbroker.com/Semi Auto Rifles/search?Keywords=Sig Sauer SIG522
malfeasance
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I haven't felt like the printed materials make a reliable enough weapon to print one. The 80% kits are great, though. Unfortunately, the ATF now says that those require a serial number.
Hoffman Tactical makes and distributes a lot of plans for printed parts and receivers if you want to look into a guy who is on the cutting edge. Check out his Youtube videos as well. He is a young guy with a genius mind for making a simple fix to a complex problem.
RandallFlagg
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Also from Wikipedia:
Blake had a warrant for his arrest from July, based on charges of third-degree felony sexual assault<a href="Shooting of Jacob Blake - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>note 1<span>]</span></a> and trespassing and disorderly conduct for domestic abuse in May.
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Police were called for domestic disturbance..I might be recalling incorrectly but the SUV he was running towards was his girlfriends (who was I believe a party to calling the police...but I do not recall precise)
Imagine if the cops sat on their guns and allowed a known violent offender (alleged anyway) to proceed with harming or killing someone.
It's a no-win situation...precipitated by criminal behavior. (And no, I'm under no illusion the cops always act fairly towards people....but in this case, the cop did not face any discipline for his actions...he was found to have acted lawfully and no criminal case was pursued).
I'm glad cell phone cameras exist - probably the best thing to level the playing field for those who have been discriminated against for decades (or centuries).
However, sometimes we also have to be comfortable accepting cameras and facts will also eliminate the counter-narrative (i.e. some racist gun-toting hillbilly showed up to gun down some peace-loving pacifist human rights protestors).
(Of course, I'm not sure how Narta picked this one as the poster-child for gun rights in the USA....plenty of other better low hanging fruit that could be used to argue gun laws)
Truthfully, I wish I knew the solution. You can't convince me Europe or Mexico or South America or hell, anywhere, is a great panacea compared to the USA (yes, i know 2 of those are continents and one is a country...lol).
TurboJet
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I know... I look every couple of months and consider it, but building a house ain't cheap!
TurboJet
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Kinda LoL I'll break down one day and get one. Really they aren't that great of a weapon compared to other options on the market, but if you got the itch and the scratch to pay for it it's a fun gun.
TurboJet
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Damnit I just had to look again....
swissarmsusa.com
Eyes credit card with malicious intent....
Since we're talking about dream toys now those Tommy Tactical G36k make me tingle something fierce too!
553R Pistol – JDI Firearms, Inc.
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Eyes credit card with malicious intent....
Since we're talking about dream toys now those Tommy Tactical G36k make me tingle something fierce too!
egruberman
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$5k is just barely touching "expensive" in the gun world. I could easily spend double that on a competition 2011.
Thats crazy to me, most Ive spent is 2k building a 308 win
TurboJet
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Exactly! Wait till he looks at the price of transferables... I get heartburn every time I think about some of the deals I missed out on.
egruberman
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I admire your restraint. Not sure what I have in my Rem 700 6.5cm because never do the math, but the gunsmithing alone was 1k and that was a hell of a deal. Shoulda started with a custom action, but hindsight and all. I probably have 2k in my 10/22 "training" rifle which is ridiculous if you think about it.
Not like I'm a high roller, though. I compete with a Glock. The Honda Civic of pistols, but that allows me to have a spare and not GAF when I drop one in the dirt or some such. I watch the 2011 guys pick their magazines up off the ground, set them aside, and meticulously clean them out meanwhile I can't even be bothered to give mine a little blow before filling it full of ammo again and stuffing it back into my mag pouch.
I never understood the fascination with converting money to noise while having no particular interest in hitting anything. See my earlier comment about LARPing.
TurboJet
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I understand that! But I figure if half the world has RPGs then I need one too! Well probably a half dozen or so...
SBRs make more sense when you run a suppressor, the additional length gets cumbersome in the deer blind or when we have to clear out hogs. It's takes constant effort keeping the population of feral hogs down in the southeastern US.
SBRs make more sense when you run a suppressor, the additional length gets cumbersome in the deer blind or when we have to clear out hogs. It's takes constant effort keeping the population of feral hogs down in the southeastern US.
TurboJet
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If you reread my post I was going by memory, and no I didn't read the entire article. I thought you were disagreeing with something else, my apology.
Here's what I miss remembered, I'm not perfect nor is my memory.
Rittenhouse Testified He Drove Himself to Kenosha Without Weapon - FactCheck.org
Kyle Rittenhouse, who is on trial for murder, testified in court that he drove himself from his home in Antioch, Illinois, to Kenosha, Wisconsin, on Aug. 24, 2020, the day before he shot and killed two men at a protest that became violent. The weapon he used, according to testimony, had been...
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Rittenhouse, who is on trial for murder, testified in court that he drove himself from his residence in Antioch, Illinois, to Kenosha, Wisconsin, on Aug. 24, 2020, the day before he shot and killed two men at a protest that became violent.
According to court testimony and police records, the AR-15 style rifle that he says he used in self-defense during confrontations with the men had been stored at a friend’s house in Kenosha and was not with him in the car when he made the roughly 20-mile drive to Wisconsin from his home state.
In a Nov. 14 CNN interview, however, Democratic Rep. Karen Bass of California falsely claimed that Wendy Rittenhouse, Kyle’s mother, drove her armed son across the Illinois-Wisconsin border to aid law enforcement during the rowdy demonstration against police brutality.
“Here, you have a 17-year-old boy who was driven by his mother across state lines with an automatic weapon — frankly, she should have been detained for child endangerment — to go to a protest where he says he’s going to help the police,” the congresswoman said. “I mean, it was ridiculous.”
A spokesperson for Bass did not respond to an email inquiring about the supporting evidence for her remarks. Her claim is very similar to one made in a viral Instagram post by actor and comedian D.L. Hughley on Nov. 13.
“Why are we just glazing over the fact that Kyle Rittenhouse’s mother put her minor child in a vehicle, drove him across state lines and dropped him off in the middle of a riot armed with an assault rifle. Why is she not behind bars?” reads the image Hughley posted, which got more than 149,000 likes on the social media platform.
But that’s not what happened, based on the available evidence.
Weapon Didn’t Cross State Lines
The Smith & Wesson semiautomatic rifle that Rittenhouse used in the shootings was already in Wisconsin, according to court testimony and police interviews.
Kyle Rittenhouse waits for the jury to enter the room to continue testifying during his trial at the Kenosha County Courthouse on Nov. 10, 2021. Photo by Photo by Sean Krajacic-Pool/Getty Images
Kyle Rittenhouse waits for the jury to enter the room to continue testifying during his trial at the Kenosha County Courthouse on Nov. 10, 2021. Photo by Sean Krajacic-Pool/Getty Images
Using money that Rittenhouse gave him, Dominick Black, a friend who also dated one of Rittenhouse’s sisters, bought the gun at a hardware store in Ladysmith, Wisconsin, in May 2020. Black, who was 18 at the time, purchased the gun for Rittenhouse, who at age 17, was too young to legally buy it for himself.
In court this month, Black and Rittenhouse said they agreed that Black would hold onto the rifle until Rittenhouse turned 18 in January 2021, and that it would be kept at Black’s home in Kenosha, where he lived with his stepfather, Scott Dickhart.
According to police records reviewed by the Kenosha News in November last year, Dickhart told authorities that he kept the gun in a locked safe until the evening of Aug. 24, 2020. Concerned about the civil unrest in the city that was sparked by a white Kenosha police officer shooting a Black man (Jacob Blake) in the back multiple times during an Aug. 23 arrest, Dickhart said he took the rifle out of the safe, which was in his garage, and put the gun in his basement.
On the witness stand, Black and Rittenhouse testified that Rittenhouse retrieved the gun from the basement on Aug. 25, 2020, before they both headed to downtown Kenosha with their rifles to help guard a used car dealership that had been damaged by a fire in a prior protest that turned destructive. Later on Aug. 25, Rittenhouse, who is charged with committing five felonies, including intentional and reckless homicide, ended up using the rifle to shoot three men, killing two of them (Joseph Rosenbaum and Anthony Huber) and injuring the other (Gaige Grosskreutz).
A sixth charge, possession of a deadly weapon by a person under 18, was dismissed on Nov. 15 by Judge Bruce Schroeder, who is overseeing the trial. The jury began deliberations on Nov. 16.
Black himself has been charged with two counts of intentionally giving a dangerous weapon to a minor, causing death. His own trial has been delayed until after the Rittenhouse trial has finished.
Rittenhouse Drove Himself to Kenosha
Kyle Rittenhouse also testified that he — not his mother — drove himself to Kenosha the day before the shootings occurred.
In mid-August last year, he had begun working as a lifeguard at the Pleasant Prairie RecPlex in Kenosha County and — although he did not possess a driver’s license — would drive to work from Antioch each day, he said. Rittenhouse told the court that he drove to work on Aug. 24 and stayed in Kenosha overnight at Black’s stepfather’s house. He remained in the city on Aug. 25, cleaning graffiti off a high school early in the day and then later going to a local store to buy a sling for his rifle.
Rittenhouse returned to his residence in Illinois shortly after the shootings, when Black drove him home. It’s not clear why Rittenhouse did not drive himself, but he had testified that his car was parked at the stepfather’s house and that Black drove them to downtown Kenosha in Black’s car.
When the teens arrived in Antioch, Rittenhouse said he told his mother and two sisters what had occurred that night in Kenosha and then his mother took him to the local police station to turn himself in at about 1:30 a.m. on Aug. 26.
Wendy Rittenhouse said in a November 2020 interview that she initially did not know of her son’s whereabouts or what he was doing on Aug. 25.
Rittenhouse, then a nursing assistant at a nursing home, told the Chicago Tribune that she worked a 16-hour shift on Aug. 24 and slept late on Aug. 25 before going to get a COVID-19 test for her job and then running other errands in Illinois with her oldest daughter.
It’s unclear why Bass claimed Wendy Rittenhouse drove her armed son to Kenosha. The available evidence shows that did not happen.
TurboJet
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Here's a little history of the two dead "victims"
Anthony Huber
Huber has two domestic abuse convictions that involve his siblings. In 2012, Huber took a plea deal after being charged with strangulation and suffocation, and false imprisonment — all felonies.
In 2017, Huber was incarcerated for violating the terms of his probation and went back into prison again a year later after kicking his sister and being charged with disorderly conduct.
Joseph Rosenbaum
Joseph Rosenbaum has a long and troubled past with a felony conviction for sexually abusing minors.
When Rosenbaum was growing up, he had been molested practically every day by his stepfather, according to an interview received by Snopes.
This led to his troubled adulthood where he was kicked out of his mother’s home and moved into a home with five boys — all aged 9 through 11 — and their parents, where he sexually abused them for weeks when he was 19.
After spending the better part of 14 years in prison and registering as a sex offender, he fathered a child with a woman he met after he was discharged.
Anthony Huber
Huber has two domestic abuse convictions that involve his siblings. In 2012, Huber took a plea deal after being charged with strangulation and suffocation, and false imprisonment — all felonies.
In 2017, Huber was incarcerated for violating the terms of his probation and went back into prison again a year later after kicking his sister and being charged with disorderly conduct.
Joseph Rosenbaum
Joseph Rosenbaum has a long and troubled past with a felony conviction for sexually abusing minors.
When Rosenbaum was growing up, he had been molested practically every day by his stepfather, according to an interview received by Snopes.
This led to his troubled adulthood where he was kicked out of his mother’s home and moved into a home with five boys — all aged 9 through 11 — and their parents, where he sexually abused them for weeks when he was 19.
After spending the better part of 14 years in prison and registering as a sex offender, he fathered a child with a woman he met after he was discharged.
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