My Dr. Crisler Experience

[newbie23]

Shit...it looks like all of the steroids.com forum postings did not come through on my earlier post. Thats Ok....they are there to read if you want to....just search the titles I gave you.

Oh yeah one more thing Newbie...I won't post my new Dr.'s name because the real trolls on this post, READ CRISLER LOVIN NUTTHUGGERS...would start draggin them through the mud and I won't jeopardize that situation.

Good Dr.'s are are to find.
Bad Dr.'s pimp themselves on the internet.

You full of shit, you only have 11 post's on steroid dot com, there is nothing to search............ already checked you out buddy.....................You wouldn't know a good doctor if it slapped you in the face.....

" my doc said try resveratrol instead of an AI to reduce estrogen and after looking around I think he is on to something " [)][)][)]

 

[Andrew Androgen]

Notice Newbie23's deliberate misspelling of Crisler (Chrisler) and his frequent use of LOL? I'm pretty confident that he IS Crisler. Same applies to Bulldog. At the very least they are someone very close to Crisler, like Ryan.

 

[newbie23]

Notice Newbie23's deliberate misspelling of Crisler (Chrisler) and his frequent use of LOL? I'm pretty confident that he IS Crisler. Same applies to Bulldog. At the very least they are someone very close to Crisler, like Ryan.

You couldn't be more wrong buddy, there are people here that know me and know I am not Chrisler.

So I figured out why this guy won't say his new doctors name and the reason is because she has quite a few bad reviews on the net as well.

Here is Dr Elena A Christofides website http://www.endocrinology-associates.com/default.html

here ^^^^^ she scored 2 out of 5 on 21 reviews many of with are the exact same complaints this guys is shouting he had.

Dr. Elena Christofedes, MD - Endocrinologist, Internist - Columbus, OH - Internal Medicine

here ^^^^ she scored a 2 out of 10

Dr. Elena Christofides ~ doctor reviews ~ DoctorScorecard.com


How do I know its her? It is the only female doctor within a mile radius of labcorb that treats for hormone therapy in men. as you can see she has some terrible reviews.

Mr KTM I would like to ask you, why would you go to someone without a penis to help you fix your penis ? [)]

either way I am out of this conversation now, this guy is going to bash every doctor that doesn't kiss his ass and give him exactly what he wants when he wants. After all his only problem with Chrisler was that he didn't get his prescription as fast as he wanted to, so he called his CC Company and did a chargeback instead of calling the doc and asking him to cancel his script. Thats it, that is why he is so pissed, and he admitted that was the problem. Being a business owner himself he should know how shitty it is to get a chargeback and you should never do that to a business unless they absolutely ripped you off, as you can see from the emails back and forth that is not what they were doing with him. they had a problem with the pharmacy and tried to rectify it. thats it. besides if he didn't want his script I'm sure Chrisler would have canceled his ass upon request lol since he did it against his request [)] you have got to be one sorry son of a bitch to get canceled by an HRT doc [)]

then 30 days after his appointment he decided he didn't like the guy, cause if his experience was a bad as he said it was why did he proceed with getting the prescription? especially when he had alternatives to get his medication, the guy had already been on TRT for months.

I still think this guy is a troll and planned his attack, rather well if I might add.

 

[sako]

I think this thread has run its course.

 

[JOWS6]

You couldn't be more wrong buddy, there are people here that know me and know I am not Chrisler.

So I figured out why this guy won't say his new doctors name and the reason is because she has quite a few bad reviews on the net as well.

Here is Dr Elena A Christofides website http://www.endocrinology-associates.com/default.html

here ^^^^^ she scored 2 out of 5 on 21 reviews many of with are the exact same complaints this guys is shouting he had.

Dr. Elena Christofedes, MD - Endocrinologist, Internist - Columbus, OH - Internal Medicine

here ^^^^ she scored a 2 out of 10

Dr. Elena Christofides ~ doctor reviews ~ DoctorScorecard.com


How do I know its her? It is the only female doctor within a mile radius of labcorb that treats for hormone therapy in men. as you can see she has some terrible reviews.

Mr KTM I would like to ask you, why would you go to someone without a penis to help you fix your penis ? [)]

either way I am out of this conversation now, this guy is going to bash every doctor that doesn't kiss his ass and give him exactly what he wants when he wants. After all his only problem with Chrisler was that he didn't get his prescription as fast as he wanted to, so he called his CC Company and did a chargeback instead of calling the doc and asking him to cancel his script. Thats it, that is why he is so pissed, and he admitted that was the problem. Being a business owner himself he should know how shitty it is to get a chargeback and you should never do that to a business unless they absolutely ripped you off, as you can see from the emails back and forth that is not what they were doing with him. they had a problem with the pharmacy and tried to rectify it. thats it. besides if he didn't want his script I'm sure Chrisler would have canceled his ass upon request lol since he did it against his request [)] you have got to be one sorry son of a bitch to get canceled by an HRT doc [)]

then 30 days after his appointment he decided he didn't like the guy, cause if his experience was a bad as he said it was why did he proceed with getting the prescription? especially when he had alternatives to get his medication, the guy had already been on TRT for months.

I still think this guy is a troll and planned his attack, rather well if I might add.

You really did all that investigating? Really?

Since you regurgitate the word "troll", like a valley girl regurgitates the word "like", so many times, you've only managed to become this thread's biggest troll.

 

[newbie23]

yea all that investigating took me LIKE a whopping 10 minutes...........

Jows how old are you ? 60?

Im sorry that I take it personally when some uppity conservative know it all doesn't even lose a dime on service from someone yet takes there time to smash him all over the internet.

Old crotchety bastards that do not like when someone types LOL or Like do that, your a dinosaur.............

 

[jaquesman]

The one big thing that threw me off when I went to see Crisler, was the lack of a complete set of labs, not once but three times. On the initial consultation, I had labs from an endo supporting something wrong with my thyroid. When I had labs done for Crisler a month later he had not checked my thyroid even though we discussed him treating it instead of my endo. It was just a basic panel, even though my case was very complex. It consisted of test, free test, shbg, and estrogen along with a blood panel. No test for DHT, progesterone, pregnenalone, prolactin, etc... Every set of labs was the basic panel, Twice after my first set of labs I asked him to check my thyroid and twice he failed to do so, those times between labs is a long time to wait when yhou feel shitty. In the mean time I had abandoned my enbdo thinking Crisler was going to treat me, ended up going back.

 

[newbie23]

The one big thing that threw me off when I went to see Crisler, was the lack of a complete set of labs, not once but three times. On the initial consultation, I had labs from an endo supporting something wrong with my thyroid. When I had labs done for Crisler a month later he had not checked my thyroid even though we discussed him treating it instead of my endo. It was just a basic panel, even though my case was very complex. It consisted of test, free test, shbg, and estrogen along with a blood panel. No test for DHT, progesterone, pregnenalone, prolactin, etc... Every set of labs was the basic panel, Twice after my first set of labs I asked him to check my thyroid and twice he failed to do so, those times between labs is a long time to wait when yhou feel shitty. In the mean time I had abandoned my enbdo thinking Crisler was going to treat me, ended up going back.

there is nothing wrong with saying any of that, it sounds like you should have gotten a thyroid panel. Thats sounds like it was a mistake by him or his staff.

This other character though doesn't really have a legitimate complaint and the only thing he is really mad about is cause he got dismissed. His post was demeaning and.......... whats the word I'm looking for...........bigoted.

 

[jaquesman]

I wasn't dismissed but then again I never challenged him either, after the first time he forgot the thyroid I specifically asked him the second time to check it and he said he would but didn't. I chose to move on rather than keep wasting time, was a tough choice just because I had high hopes for him helping me out and had invested some coin to go see him.

 

[hardasnails1973]

I think this thread has run its course.

Spoken like a true chomp..Opps I meant Champ !!

 

[smitty4]

Granted I don't post a lot, but it seems to me that anyone whose first post is like this one was has an agenda...which may be more than being upset with how a certain physician's office treated him.

 

[TZone1]

Crisler was horrible, horrible!

1. He was late.
2. Staff is rude
3. Office is nasty
4. Arrogant, arrogant, arrogant. Don't you dare ask him a question as he takes that as a challenge to his authority. His protocols are the only protocols - everyone else is an idiot.
5. Spent FAR more time talking about himself, his signif other at the time, where he gets his custom shirts made, how he is A4M's go-to-guy, etc...I don't recall talking about my condition for more than 2 mins.
6. Phone calls unreturned, emails unreturned, important questions regarding meds, labs etc.
7. Got nothing for my money or my time other than attitude.

I have found a doc in SE mich who is awesome with TRT, cares about me as a patient/person, treats me with common respect, etc...they are out there! If you PM me, I am happy to share.

 

[SoftAsShit1973]

Crisler was horrible, horrible!

1. He was late.
2. Staff is rude
3. Office is nasty
4. Arrogant, arrogant, arrogant. Don't you dare ask him a question as he takes that as a challenge to his authority. His protocols are the only protocols - everyone else is an idiot.
5. Spent FAR more time talking about himself, his signif other at the time, where he gets his custom shirts made, how he is A4M's go-to-guy, etc...I don't recall talking about my condition for more than 2 mins.
6. Phone calls unreturned, emails unreturned, important questions regarding meds, labs etc.
7. Got nothing for my money or my time other than attitude.

I have found a doc in SE mich who is awesome with TRT, cares about me as a patient/person, treats me with common respect, etc...they are out there! If you PM me, I am happy to share.

Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 2

 

[TZone1]

Yup. You are a sharp one! What are you going to do when I have more than 10 posts, take off you shoes?

 

[Tyler81]

Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 2

Sometimes people lurk on message forums and then decide to create an account and post when they feel compelled to do so. I have done this before especially with health forums.

I typically lurk on most health forums with the exception of this one where I have an account and have posted quite a bit.

 

[SoftAsShit1973]

Fair enough. Actually over the last few days i have been lurking his forum and I have decided he is indeed a MORON.

http://www.musclechatroom.com/forum/showthread.php?21039-Any-Updates-on-Chilln/page2


Just look at this thread. The Phife guy was banned for mentioning that one of the mods Chilln sent him a PM saying "If you're not going to do my experimental Pregnenolone programme you should leave the forum"

The guy 'Phife' was not being nasty about the PM infact he praised Chilln but just mentioned it was a bit weird he would say that. A day later his comment was removed by one of the mods or Dr John Ego Crisler. Phife re-posted the comment and was banned.

I am starting to come around to the fact this guy is big fucking moron.

 

[Tyler81]

The guy 'Phife' was not being nasty about the PM infact he praised Chilln but just mentioned it was a bit weird he would say that. A day later his comment was removed by one of the mods or Dr John Ego Crisler. Phife re-posted the comment and was banned.

I am starting to come around to the fact this guy is big fucking moron.

Anytime someone has a huge ego it usually stems from insecurity. Crisler beats his chest like an alpha male and he has all these yes men who suck his cock but he's probably like a scared little kid on the inside. His "sense of self" is propped up by the validation he gets from people on his msg forum so he polices that shit so anyone who isn't "with him" is "against him"

You'll notice people who lack confidence surround themselves with "yes men" whereas people who are TRULY confident are ok with differing opinions and viewpoints because they have the strength of character and intelligence to listen and be open-minded to new ideas and new ways of looking at things.

 

[jaquesman]

Crisler was horrible, horrible!

1. He was late.
2. Staff is rude
3. Office is nasty
4. Arrogant, arrogant, arrogant. Don't you dare ask him a question as he takes that as a challenge to his authority. His protocols are the only protocols - everyone else is an idiot.
5. Spent FAR more time talking about himself, his signif other at the time, where he gets his custom shirts made, how he is A4M's go-to-guy, etc...I don't recall talking about my condition for more than 2 mins.
6. Phone calls unreturned, emails unreturned, important questions regarding meds, labs etc.
7. Got nothing for my money or my time other than attitude.

I have found a doc in SE mich who is awesome with TRT, cares about me as a patient/person, treats me with common respect, etc...they are out there! If you PM me, I am happy to share.

Ditto X10 I remember the last virtual office visit I had with him, he talked about stuff going on that was irrelevant to me or my condition, I asked him a specific question about my condition his response was, "well if I would've seen something I would've told you already"

If you read any of his stuff he talks about the importance of DHT, pregnenalone, progesterone, but ironically I was never tested for any of those, even when I asked and I was a very complicated case and I got a generic set of labs each time, I would think at some point if you aren't fixing it with generic then you would start digging a little deeper. I got the impression that he just didnt really care.

 

[rburgandy]

This was almost exactly the same experiences I had with Dr. Crisler, save for the payment issues. Good for you for fighting it though.

It came as no surprise to me that he had to use a public defender, the guy has no clue on how to run a business. I'm sure he loses more than half his patients in the first year.

It's sad, because he so informed on the subject, and I like his style of treatment. He is conservative, but also willing to attempt new things. If that makes sense. But like OP said his policies make it almost immpossible to keep seeing him.

 

[ktmsmith]

WOW...I go away for some R & R and looks like all hell broke loose.

Also got a letter in the mail while I was away from Discover notifying me that they rejected payment to Dr. Crisler. Looks like they agreed with me that he didn't deserve payment for prescription services never rendered.

In the end I still wasted a day driving up there, which when you are self employed amounts to quite alot plus the $495 intial consult fee, $125 for defective T compounding from his recommended pharmacy and the worthless $115 VOV consult. In retrospect I probably got off easy but it makes my blood pressure shoot up when I think about it.

No doubt in my mind that I made the right descion to find another Dr.