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1st cycle, out of shape, high bodyfat

D-Ballin said:
Yeah, let it crash a little if you're set on getting a script. They don't appreciate the self prescribed trt often. Grounds for getting you kicked off most of these clinics if they catch you blasting, from what I hear.

By the way gorilla, don't think I've ever posted in this thread, but I've sure followed it. Good job bro. You've come a long way, and your attitude is just what you are going to need to really succeed at this. Keep it up!
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Honestly I don't really care about getting a script so much as I want to know where I'm at and whether what I've got is bunk. Being remote makes it much more difficult to get this done. But a script would be nice. .. what would happen to me and my results if I just suddenly stop for a couple weeks?
 
D-Ballin said:
Yeah, let it crash a little if you're set on getting a script. They don't appreciate the self prescribed trt often. Grounds for getting you kicked off most of these clinics if they catch you blasting, from what I hear.

By the way gorilla, don't think I've ever posted in this thread, but I've sure followed it. Good job bro. You've come a long way, and your attitude is just what you are going to need to really succeed at this. Keep it up!
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and thanks for the words of encouragement!
 
You'd feel shitty again by the time you bottom it out. Slowed progress for the couple of weeks to let it crash, and then to let it build back to steady state.

But in the grand scheme of things. . .

Marathon, not a sprint. If the script gets you legal protection, and access to more testing, then might be worth it for you. With all the options down here, it's not something I am in a hurry to get done. But if you don't have access to off book bloodwork orders, then I would give it a shot, if just for the access to e2, rbc and lipid monitoring.

And if they're doing a hormone panel with you on self prescribed trt, then they'll expect you to explain some things. Kiss your chances of getting a damn thing from those docs goodbye.
 
You're going to come back pretty high on that, unless severely underdosed. They're going to know what's up, unless they're blind.

Do you feel better running it? Or do you have a genuine reason to think it's bunk, and need to confirm?

Just think you would be better served trying to get a script, then worrying about whether your shit is dosed right. Plenty of good testosterone out there. 250 a week is going to get you to a good baseline, even with less than great gear.
 
D-Ballin said:
You're going to come back pretty high on that, unless severely underdosed. They're going to know what's up, unless they're blind.

Do you feel better running it? Or do you have a genuine reason to think it's bunk, and need to confirm?

Just think you would be better served trying to get a script, then worrying about whether your shit is dosed right. Plenty of good testosterone out there. 250 a week is going to get you to a good baseline, even with less than great gear.
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well, I've never ran before. Just started 11 weeks ago. I do feel better in general, but i also quit drinking and cleaned up my diet, and my training routine had been much more consistent. I was running Pharmacom, and everyone was complaining about under dosage or complete bunk product... I just started on Alpha Pharma Test Cyp last week. And don't know anyone who's ran it, and I'm not sure what to look for in changes, especially because I cleaned up at the same time I started. If that makes sense.
 
Understandable.

The ap from naps? Or one of the smaller resellers?

I would go ahead and assume it's g2g for now. You've been making good progress, that in of it's self doesn't suggest total bunk. Hard to do much of anything with crashed levels.
 
D-Ballin said:
Understandable.

The ap from naps? Or one of the smaller resellers?

I would go ahead and assume it's g2g for now. You've been making good progress, that in of it's self doesn't suggest total bunk. Hard to do much of anything with crashed levels.
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Not from anyone on here. A guy I was originally pointed to for B12 shots. Had a list with great prices and absurdly fast turn around.
 
Oregongearhead said:
I think Millards got test results showing both Pharmacom and Alpha at 100% or better . I think it was test-E . I would dose it as its labeled unless you have positive proof its underdosed .
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Yeah it was Test E. I'm only dosing as if there is an actual 250 per ml. I'm still new to this game so I don't go outside of what I've been initially advised by the guys that are helping me.
 
vani11agori11a said:
Not from anyone on here. A guy I was originally pointed to for B12 shots. Had a list with great prices and absurdly fast turn around.
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If it's either of the two I'm thinking it could be, then you should be good. At least as far as it not being counterfeit ap. Ugl is ugl, but they have a good reputation.
 
Had a killer back and tri day yesterday..... started with Deadlifts for some reason.... was pretty well dead after 5 sets of 10... bent over barbell rows, extra wide hammer grip seated rows, wide grip lat pull down, cable triceps press downs, cable triceps pull downs.....

Only got about 3 hours of sleep last night though, and feel like I'm getting sick, that swollen / tight sore throat thing goin on. Top that off with a 14 hour work day, and that means I'm not hitting chest and bi's today as planned..... perhaps tomorrow if all is well.

Positive note.... clen arrived today :)
 
You're making GREAT progress without the clen bro.. I'd give t some serious thought. It's not like you plan on competing next month clen is just a QUICK fix. Your health is hopefully more important then that brother
 
evarthecaveman said:
Clen? I'm sorry bro but cycling aas is dangerous enough at your bf but clen as well? I wouldn't do that if I were you.
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I hear what you're saying. And appreciate the suggestion and looking out..

My test was already low, but docs here refuse to prescribe trt. So self running 250mg cyp per week with exemestane daily. So far I know my bp is still fine, and body fat has dropped just shy of 8% in 11 weeks. I have an appointment tomorrow with a new doc to schedule bloods and make sure everything else is good..

You really thing trying a 2week on, 2 off run with Clen would be that bad for me? Wasn't planning on going crazy with it, just figured I'd start low and SLOWLY raise it up, unless I experience some of the real bad side effects..... I'm just trying to get more of this weight off.... only down 16 pounds in almost 3 months...... Strong or not, it's very difficult, and thus dangerous, to climb 200-300ft up a tower and then transitioning around weighing 284 (as of this morning) with an extra 50+ pounds of gear on.... from all I've read and researched it sounded like the best thing to try, as long as I do so carefully, to kick the results up and improve my performance at work.... I make 6 figures and need to ensure that I'm in aposition to improve performance for job security as well as bonuses annd raises.... so it's not JUST the cosmetic reasons.... if that makes sense?

And please understand I'm not trying to argue or defend, just explaining the full situation and asking for your fully informed opinion... I appreciate and welcome all info and suggestions :)
 
The gear at elevated bf isn't that bad at trt doses. As long as you aren't cycling. And the clen honestly I wouldn't fuck with it it can fuck with your heart and can make you rebound weight afterwards and fuck with your metabolism and crash it.. All up to you bro
 
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