1st cycle, out of shape, high bodyfat

[HuckingFuge]

Guys all I was saying was using more then ACTUAL trt dose when you're that high in bf isn't healthy, even though he chose to do that I was simply trying to get him not to use clen at that Bodyfat.

this statement is wrong in so many ways. the level of your Testosterone isn't going to effect your health in a bad way. especially most people I see on these boards. most are scared to go up to 1g of Test a month. you trying to be someones big brother isn't needed. you worry about what you put in your body. the only person any of us should be worried about is ourselves, not anyone else.

 

[Wunderpus]

If that's the case then by your logic TRT would be placed in this same category since the medical industry came up with the ranges your natural testosterone levels should be. Basically, you either accept the ranges or you do not, cannot pick and choose

And no I didn't. She wants me to change several lifestyle factors and retest in 6months before considering meds

Was she referring to our "alternative lifestyle" or...?

 

[HuckingFuge]

If that's the case then by your logic TRT would be placed in this same category since the medical industry came up with the ranges your natural testosterone levels should be. Basically, you either accept the ranges or you do not, cannot pick and choose

And no I didn't. She wants me to change several lifestyle factors and retest in 6months before considering meds

I choose not to follow the industries numbers.

 

[evarthecaveman]

this statement is wrong in so many ways. the level of your Testosterone isn't going to effect your health in a bad way. especially most people I see on these boards. most are scared to go up to 1g of Test a month. you trying to be someones big brother isn't needed. you worry about what you put in your body. the only person any of us should be worried about is ourselves, not anyone else.[/QUOTE
LOL. Are you so brainwashed into fucking thinking this shits healthy for you? I'm allowed to try to help who I please to, that's why some people join this forum.

 

[Docd187123]

I choose not to follow the industries numbers.

Yet you follow them for TRT?

 

[Docd187123]

Was she referring to our "alternative lifestyle" or...?

No. I eat an ungodly Mount of red meat and other sources of saturated fats, haven't been doing any cardio whatsoever besides sex lol, have been slacking on omega fatty acid intake, etc. She knows nothing of my steroid use. She doesn't know I'm on test, tren, and adex

 

[HuckingFuge]

Although clinical case studies continue to link anabolic steroid administration with myocardial infarct, suicide, and cancer, the evidence to support a cause and effect relationship is lacking and it may be other contributing factors (i.e. genetic predisposition, diet, etc.) play a substantial role and potentiate the harmful effects from anabolic steroids.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3827559/#!po=93.5393

as soon as I saw suicide and cancer in that study, I knew it was all fluff.

 

[HuckingFuge]

Yet you follow them for TRT?

do I I don't think I've ever done TRT recommended doses

 

[Docd187123]

as soon as I saw suicide and cancer in that study, I knew it was all fluff.

Whether you admit it or not, the association has been shown in more than this one single study. Whether you agree with it or not it's been shown time and time again. They didn't say cause and effect mind you simply an association.

 

[evarthecaveman]

Guys cycling when you have more tits then you already need is obviously healthy. Forget getting down below 15 or 10 % the strain on blood lipids and your liver can help in the long run! If you don't believe this your a sheep and need to do real research

 

[HuckingFuge]

No. I eat an ungodly Mount of red meat and other sources of saturated fats, haven't been doing any cardio whatsoever besides sex lol, have been slacking on omega fatty acid intake, etc. She knows nothing of my steroid use. She doesn't know I'm on test, tren, and adex

don't blame red meat, but you can blame your lacking of taking in of omega-3 and other fats.

 

[Docd187123]

do I I don't think I've ever done TRT recommended doses

Hahahahaha touché.

 

[HuckingFuge]

Guys cycling when you have more tits then you already need is obviously healthy. Forget getting down below 15 or 10 % the strain on blood lipids and your liver can help in the long run! If you don't believe this your a sheep and need to do real research

I'm a SHEEP DOG!

 

[Docd187123]

don't blame red meat, but you can blame your lacking of taking in of omega-3 and other fats.

Just the fact that I eat a lot of saturated fats which the red meat I eat has a ton of.

In reality, I blame the tren but again, I want to win in PLing so that's a secondary concern behind my total

 

[HuckingFuge]

Whether you admit it or not, the association has been shown in more than this one single study. Whether you agree with it or not it's been shown time and time again. They didn't say cause and effect mind you simply an association.

the preach it like AAS are cause and effect.

 

[Wunderpus]

Suicide and depression are most likely correlation, not causation. Unless they are referring to people who are PCT'ing.... LOL.

 

[HuckingFuge]

Just the fact that I eat a lot of saturated fats which the red meat I eat has a ton of.

In reality, I blame the tren but again, I want to win in PLing so that's a secondary concern behind my total

the cholesterol meds only shrink the cholesterol. you still have the same number, but get a lower ready when on the meds, once shrunk cholesterol can not do its job properly. neither LDL or HDL is bad, they are both good and serve a purpose.

 

[HuckingFuge]

Suicide and depression are most likely correlation, not causation. Unless they are referring to people who are PCT'ing.... LOL.

clomid will turn you into a crying little girl lol

 

[Docd187123]

the preach it like AAS are cause and effect.

Some places do and I agree, some ppl preach like you'll die within 5yrs which is ridiculous. We both agree there. My point is, not all do this and those get thrown together with extremists. Look, simple cycles here and there while not the healthiest choice isn't going to kill you or ruin your quality of life 10yrs later. But running 5g of gear a week with T3, slin, and GH for year after year is going to give you some health problems down the road. I think we can both agree on that and that there is a middle ground between the extrmees

 

[Big_paul]

No. I eat an ungodly Mount of red meat and other sources of saturated fats, haven't been doing any cardio whatsoever besides sex lol, have been slacking on omega fatty acid intake, etc. She knows nothing of my steroid use. She doesn't know I'm on test, tren, and adex

Never give your girl info she doesn't NEED to know. Never!