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Anyone get any tren a here recently that seemed underfilled. Compared to the test p I got along with it, the tren was either short or test over filled but going with tren was short in 2 vials I got. Don't remeber last ones I got having that much air space.
 
Anyone get any tren a here recently that seemed underfilled. Compared to the test p I got along with it, the tren was either short or test over filled but going with tren was short in 2 vials I got. Don't remeber last ones I got having that much air space.
Someone posted a while back that he started using different vials. So they look like they're filled short but they really arent. I was gonna ask about that too until I read the post. I have some test c that looks short. All vials are even but look underfilled. I have nothing to compare them to though, so it may be a case of different vials as someone else posted?
 
Anytime that I suspect that my vials contain anything less than 10ml, I take three 3cc syringes and draw the contents out of the vial, one by one, filling each syringe with 3ml of oil, emptying the vial of its contents. Obviously by the end of the third syringe, I should have 3 filled syringes of 3ml of oil (9ml) and there better be what appears to be at least one more ml left in that bottle.

I do this to spot check sources too, even if all vials look to be filled identically, since many sources use different size bottles, and you can't tell if they all contain 10ml just by looking (hell, maybe they all contain EXACTLY 9ml, right?).

For the fellas here suspecting underfilled vials, I'd do the above and find out ASAP and let 24 know if you got shorted!
 
Anyone get any tren a here recently that seemed underfilled. Compared to the test p I got along with it, the tren was either short or test over filled but going with tren was short in 2 vials I got. Don't remeber last ones I got having that much air space.

Someone posted a while back that he started using different vials. So they look like they're filled short but they really arent. I was gonna ask about that too until I read the post. I have some test c that looks short. All vials are even but look underfilled. I have nothing to compare them to though, so it may be a case of different vials as someone else posted?

Anytime that I suspect that my vials contain anything less than 10ml, I take three 3cc syringes and draw the contents out of the vial, one by one, filling each syringe with 3ml of oil, emptying the vial of its contents. Obviously by the end of the third syringe, I should have 3 filled syringes of 3ml of oil (9ml) and there better be what appears to be at least one more ml left in that bottle.

I do this to spot check sources too, even if all vials look to be filled identically, since many sources use different size bottles, and you can't tell if they all contain 10ml just by looking (hell, maybe they all contain EXACTLY 9ml, right?).

For the fellas here suspecting underfilled vials, I'd do the above and find out ASAP and let 24 know if you got shorted!

Morning. Just to clarify, there are actually three different sizes of vials now. The reason we don't have uniformity in vial sizes is, awhile back ago, I started to order vials from different suppliers - as I suspect that several back to back large orders of vials could seem suspicious. This has resulted in several different vials types. We have had several questions about a specific vial that is thicker in diameter than the rest because the 10mL line comes up much shorter than the other vials. If you have a comparison to other vials, it is very easy to notice that this vial has a larger circumference with the same height, so 10mL will come up shorter.

That being said, you can spot check as the above user mentioned. But also, do note that the more frequent withdrawals that are made, the less you will get out of the vial. Usually, I say that from a standard 10mL vial with standard use of 10-15 draws, you will get about 9-9.5mL of usage. This is due to the loss from transfer and is normal. To be transparent, we have on occasions shipped product that looked significantly under-filled than the other vials included. In such cases, we've happily and promptly reshipped replacements.

I understand that there are still many members who are skeptical of sources. My ask again is that if you have specific issues to please bring them up with me and I will address to them hopefully to your satisfaction. This vial situation may be an indication of the general distrust that still exist with us/sources. Many customers, rather than comparing the vials first, and seeing the difference in sizes, have immediately emailed us about being shorted product. It's not necessarily a problem, but understand that I cannot make public post about every single change (vials, oils, caps, coloring, pharma brands etc) that happens. Unfortunately, even when I do make public notifications, may customers are still unaware. Just to clarify, this last bit is not to complain, but to give everyone a glimpse of the type of issues we run into behind the scenes.

So in conclusion, I want everyone to spot check us - this is why we reimburse for blood work and other lab testing. But I ask that you spot check us with the notion that we have good intentions. It makes no business sense for us to be underdosing, underfilling, etc. That being said, all we can do on this end is to continue to show through actions more than words.

Thanks for reading.
 
Anyone get any tren a here recently that seemed underfilled. Compared to the test p I got along with it, the tren was either short or test over filled but going with tren was short in 2 vials I got. Don't remeber last ones I got having that much air space.
Yep same here.
 
I was told he used Grapeseed for Tren (but will be converting to MCT) and my current batch of Test E is MCT..
My tren is DEFINITELY MCT that I received the other day... Super smooth, very happy with it.

Let me clarify, all Tren A is made with MCT oil. Latest batches of Tren E have been made with Grapeseed oil. Reason being our bulk USP mct oil supplier was out of stock. As a forewarning, this tren e is darker than most are used to because it is made with GSO, which has a green tint to it.

I apologize in advance for the non-uniformity in vial sizes and oil types. This is one of the challenges of managing a domestic source whose volume is increasing while also trying to maintain a level of safety.
 
Usually we do store credit, but if you are in a position where cash is more beneficial, we can do that too. It will most likely be through CIM, so please understand the risks that come with that.

Proof is simple blood work results and receipt or somewhere that shows the cost of the testing (i.e. website link).

Hopefully that clarifies.

How long after beginning a cycle of cyp should I get blood work done?
 
around 6 weeks is gonna show your steady state level, I like to do them 24 hours after a pin to catch a near peak level.
 
Let me clarify, all Tren A is made with MCT oil. Latest batches of Tren E have been made with Grapeseed oil. Reason being our bulk USP mct oil supplier was out of stock. As a forewarning, this tren e is darker than most are used to because it is made with GSO, which has a green tint to it.

I apologize in advance for the non-uniformity in vial sizes and oil types. This is one of the challenges of managing a domestic source whose volume is increasing while also trying to maintain a level of safety.


My tren a isn't clear like the test p mct??
 
Actually @Boilermech had bloods taken 24,48 and 72 hours post pin and his 72 hour test was the highest. Weird cause we're all under the assumption that peak levels are around 48 hours. I'll be having bloods done in March @48 and 72 to get a better assessment.


Edit: not on 24k gear.
 
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