GuerillaPete
Member
You luck bastard you are immune to sides .
I bet you never use caber and shit like that.
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
I bet you never use caber and shit like that.
AlwaysHungry
Member
I'm trying taking as less as I can. For example on 2g testo I'm on 0.25 adex MWF and occasionally 1 full mg.
I'm taking it for gyno. Have tried Nolvadex but it doesn't suit me. Ralox I haven't try. But I plan to get my glands removed.
GuerillaPete
Member
Why not let them grow out and transition?
Just kidding man could not help it.Gyno sucks def cut that bitch out your life will be much better.
Til then maybe try Aromasin but i guess you did that already .
I hate Adex just does not work well for me.
Keto86
New Member
Haha I shed the odd bit of hair but got that under control by using nizoral and ru58841.
Never needed to use caber mate.
Good lord
Plate Smacker
Member
Block with Nolvadex (Tamoxifen), which belongs to a class of drugs called selective estrogen receptor modulators (SERMs), which work by blocking estrogen from binding to its receptors in the breast.
If running around 1g or less of Test, I don't use an AI. If running higher Test, then I may add a little Aromasin to control estrogen but sparingly. Like 6.5mg per week for 3 weeks at some point.
Hightower
Member
I can be wrong, but sometimes increasing the dosages of ASS is the wrong way. It is more correct and correct to revise the training program, technique, recovery and nutrition, I am sure that there are more options for growth.
Hightower
Member
It is always necessary to weigh the risks and consequences for health. When you are a professional and this is work and the main goal of victory and the result, then the risk is justified, apparently. And when we exercise for ourselves or for the beach, or in order to look good and thoughtlessly risk our health. Although everyone decides for himself.
lankyOldIdiot
New Member
Does anyone really need more than 500mg or 1g to look good for the beach? Even the big guys I see look like bloated cows most of the time because "off season bro".
I'm not judging though, do what's need to succeed at your goals.
Although IMO, how good you look depends on how shredded you are. Which brings about more health risks unless you're genetically elite.
Plate Smacker
Member
POME Pulmonary Oil Microembolism
Defined:
Pulmonary oil micro-embolism (POME) syndrome: a review and summary of a large case series
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
I injected 3ml Test D into dorsogluteal
Then 1ml Deca left Quad, 1ml Tren E right Quad. No adverse effect.
10 minutes later I had a small POME.
Slight breathing issues, increased with exertion.
Lasted 35 minutes but followed 1 hour later with Injection/Test Flu
Cold chills.
Put on snowsuit, mixed up some electrolytes. Took baby aspirin, fishoils, Sat on the couch and sipped and rode the wave for 45 minutes until I felt warm. Drenched in sweat, slight headache. All good.
Occurrence: rarely, this is like the 3rd time over 5 years.
Possible reason. I use 1" needle. I'm lean. I also have small air to push out residual to lessen chance of oil entering vein during removal, if I went through a vein. I also winder with shorter needle closer to level of veins, if bleed over can occur as it spreads.
Could have been Quad injection. Never know.
Though I don't have data, I would think larger yield of injected oil to exasperate and lead to more chance of POME.
Some of us have had them. Maybe you didn't know what was going on.
It is not the same as Tren Cough. Tren cough is more short lived and sometimes more violent.
However with physical exertion, which increases respiratory demand, POME can cause a similar feeling and make you cough.
POME will last longer.
"The patient’s work of breathing was normal when stationary, but he rapidly became tachypneic on exertion."
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Other links:
www.sciencedirect.com
This shit is next level scare tactics right here.
www.aveedusa.com
If I happens again, I'm just going to chalk it up as a sign, and drop down to 900mg Test and move on with my life.
Defined:
Pulmonary oil micro-embolism (POME) syndrome: a review and summary of a large case series
Pulmonary oil micro-embolism (POME) syndrome: a review and summary of a large case series - PubMed
The use of steroid compounds formulated in oil for depot injection can be associated with acute pulmonary reactions characterized primarily by cough, but sometimes with other associated symptoms. The pathophysiology of these reactions remains unclear, although they are reported in the literature...
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
I injected 3ml Test D into dorsogluteal
Then 1ml Deca left Quad, 1ml Tren E right Quad. No adverse effect.
10 minutes later I had a small POME.
Slight breathing issues, increased with exertion.
Lasted 35 minutes but followed 1 hour later with Injection/Test Flu
Cold chills.
Put on snowsuit, mixed up some electrolytes. Took baby aspirin, fishoils, Sat on the couch and sipped and rode the wave for 45 minutes until I felt warm. Drenched in sweat, slight headache. All good.
Occurrence: rarely, this is like the 3rd time over 5 years.
Possible reason. I use 1" needle. I'm lean. I also have small air to push out residual to lessen chance of oil entering vein during removal, if I went through a vein. I also winder with shorter needle closer to level of veins, if bleed over can occur as it spreads.
Could have been Quad injection. Never know.
Though I don't have data, I would think larger yield of injected oil to exasperate and lead to more chance of POME.
Some of us have had them. Maybe you didn't know what was going on.
It is not the same as Tren Cough. Tren cough is more short lived and sometimes more violent.
However with physical exertion, which increases respiratory demand, POME can cause a similar feeling and make you cough.
POME will last longer.
"The patient’s work of breathing was normal when stationary, but he rapidly became tachypneic on exertion."
Acute respiratory distress following intravenous injection of an oil-steroid solution - PMC
Several case reports have described acute lung injury and respiratory distress following the intravascular injection of oil. Although biochemical and mechanical theories explaining the pathological mechanism of pulmonary oil embolism have been ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Other links:
Occurrence of Pulmonary Oil Microembolism After Testosterone Undecanoate Injection: A Postmarketing Safety Analysis
The Aveed Risk Evaluation and Mitigation Strategy program was instituted because of potential risk of pulmonary oil microembolism (POME) and/or anaphy…
This shit is next level scare tactics right here.
Patient Home
Learn about AVEED® (testosterone undecanoate) injection CIII. See Safety Information, including Boxed Warning, benefits and risks, and full Prescribing Information.
www.aveedusa.com
If I happens again, I'm just going to chalk it up as a sign, and drop down to 900mg Test and move on with my life.
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AlwaysHungry
Member
That's why we always aspiratePOME Pulmonary Oil Microembolism
Defined:
Pulmonary oil micro-embolism (POME) syndrome: a review and summary of a large case series
Pulmonary oil micro-embolism (POME) syndrome: a review and summary of a large case series - PubMed
The use of steroid compounds formulated in oil for depot injection can be associated with acute pulmonary reactions characterized primarily by cough, but sometimes with other associated symptoms. The pathophysiology of these reactions remains unclear, although they are reported in the literature...
I injected 3ml Test D into dorsogluteal
Then 1ml Deca left Quad, 1ml Tren E right Quad. No adverse effect.
10 minutes later I had a small POME.
Slight breathing issues, increased with exertion.
Lasted 35 minutes but followed 1 hour later with Injection/Test Flu
Cold chills.
Put on snowsuit, mixed up some electrolytes. Took baby aspirin, fishoils, Sat on the couch and sipped and rode the wave for 45 minutes until I felt warm. Drenched in sweat, slight headache. All good.
Occurrence: rarely, this is like the 3rd time over 5 years.
Possible reason. I use 1" needle. I'm lean. I also have small air to push out residual to lessen chance of oil entering vein during removal, if I went through a vein. I also winder with shorter needle closer to level of veins, if bleed over can occur as it spreads.
Could have been Quad injection. Never know.
Though I don't have data, I would think larger yield of injected oil to exasperate and lead to more chance of POME.
Some of us have had them. Maybe you didn't know what was going on.
It is not the same as Tren Cough. Tren cough is more short lived and sometimes more violent.
However with physical exertion, which increases respiratory demand, POME can cause a similar feeling and make you cough.
POME will last longer.
"The patient’s work of breathing was normal when stationary, but he rapidly became tachypneic on exertion."
Acute respiratory distress following intravenous injection of an oil-steroid solution - PMC
Several case reports have described acute lung injury and respiratory distress following the intravascular injection of oil. Although biochemical and mechanical theories explaining the pathological mechanism of pulmonary oil embolism have been ...
Other links:
Occurrence of Pulmonary Oil Microembolism After Testosterone Undecanoate Injection: A Postmarketing Safety Analysis
The Aveed Risk Evaluation and Mitigation Strategy program was instituted because of potential risk of pulmonary oil microembolism (POME) and/or anaphy…
This shit is next level scare tactics right here.
Patient Home
Learn about AVEED® (testosterone undecanoate) injection CIII. See Safety Information, including Boxed Warning, benefits and risks, and full Prescribing Information.
If I happens again, I'm just going to chalk it up as a sign, and drop down to 900mg Test and move on with my life.
Happened to me few times and I am still here. You would be fine after allPOME Pulmonary Oil Microembolism
Defined:
Pulmonary oil micro-embolism (POME) syndrome: a review and summary of a large case series
Pulmonary oil micro-embolism (POME) syndrome: a review and summary of a large case series - PubMed
The use of steroid compounds formulated in oil for depot injection can be associated with acute pulmonary reactions characterized primarily by cough, but sometimes with other associated symptoms. The pathophysiology of these reactions remains unclear, although they are reported in the literature...
I injected 3ml Test D into dorsogluteal
Then 1ml Deca left Quad, 1ml Tren E right Quad. No adverse effect.
10 minutes later I had a small POME.
Slight breathing issues, increased with exertion.
Lasted 35 minutes but followed 1 hour later with Injection/Test Flu
Cold chills.
Put on snowsuit, mixed up some electrolytes. Took baby aspirin, fishoils, Sat on the couch and sipped and rode the wave for 45 minutes until I felt warm. Drenched in sweat, slight headache. All good.
Occurrence: rarely, this is like the 3rd time over 5 years.
Possible reason. I use 1" needle. I'm lean. I also have small air to push out residual to lessen chance of oil entering vein during removal, if I went through a vein. I also winder with shorter needle closer to level of veins, if bleed over can occur as it spreads.
Could have been Quad injection. Never know.
Though I don't have data, I would think larger yield of injected oil to exasperate and lead to more chance of POME.
Some of us have had them. Maybe you didn't know what was going on.
It is not the same as Tren Cough. Tren cough is more short lived and sometimes more violent.
However with physical exertion, which increases respiratory demand, POME can cause a similar feeling and make you cough.
POME will last longer.
"The patient’s work of breathing was normal when stationary, but he rapidly became tachypneic on exertion."
Acute respiratory distress following intravenous injection of an oil-steroid solution - PMC
Several case reports have described acute lung injury and respiratory distress following the intravascular injection of oil. Although biochemical and mechanical theories explaining the pathological mechanism of pulmonary oil embolism have been ...
Other links:
Occurrence of Pulmonary Oil Microembolism After Testosterone Undecanoate Injection: A Postmarketing Safety Analysis
The Aveed Risk Evaluation and Mitigation Strategy program was instituted because of potential risk of pulmonary oil microembolism (POME) and/or anaphy…
This shit is next level scare tactics right here.
Patient Home
Learn about AVEED® (testosterone undecanoate) injection CIII. See Safety Information, including Boxed Warning, benefits and risks, and full Prescribing Information.
If I happens again, I'm just going to chalk it up as a sign, and drop down to 900mg Test and move on with my life.
Guys that do that included myself don't take that much to look good at the beach.
They take because they are all fuck up and want to be big. Have big issues mentally like self-esteem, been bullied and so on
Not all go to the gym for beach and take roids for that
malfeasance
Member
With training and food optimized, there is a muscle size limit with any level of steroids beyond which the body will not go.
If that was not true, then all of us could get to the size of nationals amateurs or IFBB pros just by doing 300mg of testosterone and revising our training program, technique, recovery, and nutrition and other options for growth.
Once you find that limit, you have to have higher doses to get to the next level. Food and training and all of that have to be there, too, but the hormones have to be there to support it, otherwise your natty girlfriend could get huge just by tweaking her diet and workouts.
There is a size dose relationship. That is not really an arguable thing.
Sometimes we forget that because so many guys have shit for diet and training, run high doses, and get bad results.
malfeasance
Member
I never aspirate.
GuerillaPete
Member
No point really….
AlwaysHungry
Member
Why no point ? If you draw blood you're in a vein or arteries
GuerillaPete
Member
You don't say? Them crazy arteries must be misplaced in your body
AlwaysHungry
Member
What about veins ?
GuerillaPete
Member
What about them?
How many years have you been doing this?
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