Advice on bloodwork from power pct

[Trenbologna]

Thanks for the info yeah i made the mistake for some reason so my last shot was on sunday not friday and then drew bloods on monday. Seems like a long recovery ahead i just didn’t know if my TT going from 237 to 281 was a big enough jump to continue.

Sorry to bump but I have a very similar situation to yours only for a lot longer. I'm curious if you went the longer HCG route or just opted for trt therapy for life? For me personally trt therapy even at 200mg week has done nothing for my libido and only gets my test to around 400-600ng/dl. And if I stop the injections it immediately shoots down to under 200ng/dl
I am going to try the long term HCG protocol.
I have experienced extreme depression and fatigue and ed for 20 years which I believe stems from a huge and incredibly stupid first cycle I when i was 19 (44 now).
I am willing to be in HCG for as long as it takes if I see a slow and steady rise in my t.
Even if it is incredibly slow and might take years to fix.

 

[Silentlemon1011]

Sorry to bump but I have a very similar situation to yours only for a lot longer. I'm curious if you went the longer HCG route or just opted for trt therapy for life? For me personally trt therapy even at 200mg week has done nothing for my libido and only gets my test to around 400-600ng/dl. And if I stop the injections it immediately shoots down to under 200ng/dl
I am going to try the long term HCG protocol.
I have experienced extreme depression and fatigue and ed for 20 years which I believe stems from a huge and incredibly stupid first cycle I when i was 19 (44 now).
I am willing to be in HCG for as long as it takes if I see a slow and steady rise in my t.
Even if it is incredibly slow and might take years to fix.

How does you LH/FSH look into comparison to your Total T?

 

[Trenbologna]

How does you LH/FSH look into comparison to your Total T?

I never keep my bloodwork because it's always the same. I simply as my endocrinologist to let me know if he ever sees any change at all.

How does you LH/FSH look into comparison to your Total T?

 

[ScruffMcBuff]

Sorry to bump but I have a very similar situation to yours only for a lot longer. I'm curious if you went the longer HCG route or just opted for trt therapy for life? For me personally trt therapy even at 200mg week has done nothing for my libido and only gets my test to around 400-600ng/dl. And if I stop the injections it immediately shoots down to under 200ng/dl
I am going to try the long term HCG protocol.
I have experienced extreme depression and fatigue and ed for 20 years which I believe stems from a huge and incredibly stupid first cycle I when i was 19 (44 now).
I am willing to be in HCG for as long as it takes if I see a slow and steady rise in my t.
Even if it is incredibly slow and might take years to fix.

I ended up just going the trt for life route and you being at 44 might as well do the same for overall wellness. 400-600 isn’t that bad but it mainly goes by how you feel ie energy/mood ect. If libido is your main concern you may wanted to check what your estrogen and prolactin are looking like. My libido is mainly down for the most part but I get crazy morning wood most times then not so I know it’s not tanked. I’m currently on 200mg week split every 4 days. I take .5 arimidex when I feel like I need to because I’m a high converter.

 

[Trenbologna]

My endocrinologist sucks but I use him because he prescribes me the test no problem. He won't prescribe me HCG even when I stressed I would like to possibly have children down the line.
Every 3 months I get tested and every time it's pretty much the same. I dont think this is a complete test but this is the test he orders.
Maybe I be asking for a full blood panel every 3 months?

 

[Trenbologna]

I ended up just going the trt for life route and you being at 44 might as well do the same for overall wellness. 400-600 isn’t that bad but it mainly goes by how you feel ie energy/mood ect. If libido is your main concern you may wanted to check what your estrogen and prolactin are looking like. My libido is mainly down for the most part but I get crazy morning wood most times then not so I know it’s not tanked. I’m currently on 200mg week split every 4 days. I take .5 arimidex when I feel like I need to because I’m a high converter.

I feel like shit. No energy. Zero libido unless I take adderall. As important as my libido is to me I need to do something about the fatigue and depression as well. They dominate my life.
Antidepressants do nothing. Wellbutrin helps with my appetite that's it. I've tried almost all antidepressants. I am either a non responder or it is something physical not mental. Obviously no libido in itself causes depression for me.

 

[Trenbologna]

I ended up just going the trt for life route and you being at 44 might as well do the same for overall wellness. 400-600 isn’t that bad but it mainly goes by how you feel ie energy/mood ect. If libido is your main concern you may wanted to check what your estrogen and prolactin are looking like. My libido is mainly down for the most part but I get crazy morning wood most times then not so I know it’s not tanked. I’m currently on 200mg week split every 4 days. I take .5 arimidex when I feel like I

How does you LH/FSH look into comparison to your Total T?

Next bloodwork I will ask for all that and get back to everyone. I should have had the information but after all these years I just stopped keeping my bloodwork. Stopped caring. I appreciate the responses. I was just going to try the HCG for a few months since I have a source for it. I tried a short course years back like 15k I per week for a week weeks. I followed some older protocol from many years back. Now that I see Scally has one I was thinking of trying it. But through comments I'm seeing maybe just HCG is all I should try until my test comes up to like 500 without trt. That would be miraculous for me. I don't know if it would do jack all for my depression but I have to tackle these issues one by one. I've decided in not ready to give up on my balls just yet not even at 44. Well it's not really my sperm I give a fuck about at this point. I just want my test production back to see if it improves my overall mental and physical well being.

 

[Trenbologna]

I ended up just going the trt for life route and you being at 44 might as well do the same for overall wellness. 400-600 isn’t that bad but it mainly goes by how you feel ie energy/mood ect. If libido is your main concern you may wanted to check what your estrogen and prolactin are looking like. My libido is mainly down for the most part but I get crazy morning wood most times then not so I know it’s not tanked. I’m currently on 200mg week split every 4 days. I take .5 arimidex when I feel like I need to because I’m a high converter.

Sorry also same as you I get zero gains in size, strength, cardio. I once tried improving my cardio for a few months, each day I got on the treadmill it was like the first time. No improvements in cardio either. You start asking yourself why the hell bother to go to the gym in the first place? Hell I am probably doing more harm then good at that point.

 

[ScruffMcBuff]

Sorry also same as you I get zero gains in size, strength, cardio. I once tried improving my cardio for a few months, each day I got on the treadmill it was like the first time. No improvements in cardio either. You start asking yourself why the hell bother to go to the gym in the first place? Hell I am probably doing more harm then good at that point.

Definitely get your estrogen checked. Don’t give up 499 is a decent number but not everyone is the same. What’s your height and weight? You may even need to increase dose. It took me about a year to get everything in check and find out the regimen that works for me.

 

[Trenbologna]

Definitely get your estrogen checked. Don’t give up 499 is a decent number but not everyone is the same. What’s your height and weight? You may even need to increase dose. It took me about a year to get everything in check and find out the regimen that works for me.

I'm overweight now but if I focus I will eventually lose weight. I'm 6'4" 275lbs.
My estrogen he always tells me is good but I thought I read over the years that estrogen tests like thyroid tests have wide parameters and are open for error and subjectivity for the physician.
The mean in my immediate family all have testosterone levels at almost 1000.
They all are on the verge of having to get their prostate checked. My brother, uncle, grandfather all 900+ test naturally. My father no idea.
Still though as good as 500 sounds I still gain no size or strength. I will ask for estrogen next test and post it.

 

[BirdieNumNum]

Long term HCG worked a treat for me.

 

[Trenbologna]

Long term HCG worked a treat for me.

Mind if I ask dosage and duration?
I'm guessing if it works then at least 6 months for me.

 

[BirdieNumNum]

It works. Well it did for me.

I was so wreckless with AAS and also with PCT drugs. My log is there if you look.

 

[Trenbologna]

It works. Well it did for me.

I was so wreckless with AAS and also with PCT drugs. My log is there if

Where do I find your log sorry I dont use Meso often.

 

[kosp]

Where do I find your log sorry I dont use Meso often.

yes, read it, It´s quite comical.

 

[IrishJuice]

Birdienumnum recovery cam be found here

Recovery from 4 year blast and cruise.

LOL I know. It would not be an extensive pct with such a short cycle, and unlike when I was a teen, I wont be pinning over 4000mg of AAS a week. Good luck mate. Stop back in and take the piss out on us and don’t be a stranger here.

thinksteroids.com

 

[Trenbologna]

yes, read it, It´s quite comical.

Jesus I feel like I need a valium after reading that thread. I appreciate the response Birdie.
So knowing what you know now, are there any recommendations you would add? And modifications?
I didn't see the dosage for your "2 year low dose protocol " of HCG mentioned.
Can I ask what dosage did you use for those two years? Also did you ever take anything else with the HCG during the two years?
Do you think the clomid played any part in your recovery?

I read you mention you would rather not post the amounts you took but you also mentioned that you posted originally to help guys suffering like you did. I'll go ahead and follow the best long term low-dose HCG monotherapy protocol I can find but I'd rather try what I know worked for someone. If you would still rather not post I respect that and still thank you for sharing your experience.

I'm 44 and I havent been able to have a relationship with a woman in like 15 years and honestly it was no picnic before that either.
I'm getting my bloodwork done and will share it soon. I will have my test free test estradiol sbhg, FSH and LH numbers. It was like pulling teeth asking my endo to do this. He sucks. Wouldn't even agree to do the prolactin because he said it "doesn't make sense" to check that.

Again I believe this began at 19 when I took a massive 18 week cycle of basically everything probably 4 or 5000mg/week of total test.