Am I too old?

[egruberman]

- 2iu HGH e/d (PM, before bed)

Double or triple this would probably be fine.

 

[AlexDavis43]

New lab work just arrived, before TRT my T was 251, now at 1391 at the end of a 7 day cycle, too high ? I'm also taking some GH peptides . Thoughts ??

Your lab results are in.

Your total testosterone is 1391, and your estrogen level is 45.0, with an E/T ratio of 3.2%, which falls within the normal range.

Based on these results, you may discontinue the aromatase inhibitor (AI) at this time. Please reduce your dosage to 0.8cc per week.

It's a little high for TRT. How do you feel? I'd consider their dosing recommendation anyway, but especially if any skin/mood/libido side effects.

You'll still make muscle gains on 0.8 cc/wk (assuming you're still training hard in the gym).

Roger that and I am following your orders included in my 5-day workout of weight lifting is a 6 day 25 minute a day cardio getting the heart rate up to 140. Eating is pretty much cleaned up it was never really bad.
So to be clear this test was taken after 3 months.
Performance issues in the bedroom started after I went up about 2 weeks ago in the dosage of testosterone C.

Blood pressure 3 weeks ago was 125 over 80 so the increase in testosterone I'm now at 144/85.

And yeah for the BP. May want to consult your PCP about antihypertensive meds.

 

[Nidus]

The lab I use is 250-1100.

Labs in Germany consider anything above 800 as extremely high already, the highest i had at a lab as for ref. range was 1000 and even when you get close to it they go full crazy mode on you.

At 1.200 i feel perfect and intend to stay at that range forever, every time i do bloods i get a nurse or lab doc telling me that i gonna die soon because of TRT.

 

[malfeasance]

Labs in Germany consider anything above 800 as extremely high already, the highest i had at a lab as for ref. range was 1000 and even when you get close to it they go full crazy mode on you.

At 1.200 i feel perfect and intend to stay at that range forever, every time i do bloods i get a nurse or lab doc telling me that i gonna die soon because of TRT.

Some men at 40 will be over 900 naturally.

Some men at 50 will be over 800 naturally.

They should be looking at other things like blood pressure or estrogen levels or something looking for problems rather than looking at just that one number.

There definitely could be a problem trying to hit 1000 on an obese person who is converting and has high estrogen. It takes a lot of testosterone to get him to 1000, and a lot of that is subject to his increased aromatase and therefore converted to estrogen.

Aromatase Inhibitors (AI) are not good to take long term.

The solution there is to treat him to some reasonable level and counsel him to get lean, at which point the same amount of testosterone injected will give him higher levels of testosterone and lower levels of estrogen.

 

[UncleBuns]

Roger that and I am following your orders included in my 5-day workout of weight lifting is a 6 day 25 minute a day cardio getting the heart rate up to 140. Eating is pretty much cleaned up it was never really bad.
So to be clear this test was taken after 3 months.
Performance issues in the bedroom started after I went up about 2 weeks ago in the dosage of testosterone C.

Blood pressure 3 weeks ago was 125 over 80 so the increase in testosterone I'm now at 144/85.

That blood pressure is way to high. I would lower the dose until blood pressure is at a reasonable level. As you lose weight BP will improve. Cardio is key for BP as well. Both LISS and high intensity. Test+overweight+no or not enough cardio = inevitable negative health consequences.

 

[Nidus]

That blood pressure is way to high. I would lower the dose until blood pressure is at a reasonable level. As you lose weight BP will improve. Cardio is key for BP as well. Both LISS and high intensity. Test+overweight+no or not enough cardio = inevitable negative health consequences.

Resting heart rate would also be interesting. Most likely also in the high 80-90s

 

[bigMoJo]

@fw190jd

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However, FYI... the blood labs you posted as pdf on page 2, post #26... has your personal info un-redacted. I went ahead and "reported" it so as its removed. Please follow up with admin and do the same.

Wish you the best!

 

[fw190jd]

@fw190jd

Hey brother, you're getting invaluable feedback from extremely knowledgable members. They have been of tremendous help to me as well. Therefore, I have nothing to add... it's all Gold.

However, FYI... the blood labs you posted as pdf on page 2, post #26... has your personal info un-redacted. I went ahead and "reported" it so as its removed. Please follow up with admin and do the same.

Wish you the best!

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