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You mean apart the the very obvious Ted Talk? I haven’t been looking to much tbh. There are others which people throw their own twist on things and after listening to the whole context, I haven’t found others.
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From the little i watched, it seemed his angle is/was to slow future population growth.
Good luck with that. i'm sure there's a ton of save the children charities that want him dead for interfering with their racket.
And is this from a deep philosophical understanding?
I won't disagree with you that most people love to wave their flags, sing their anthems and cheer on nonsense, but there's always a small percentage of us in the corner shaking our heads wondering when the madness will stop.
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You can easily sterilize people through vaccines
Ted Talk was not describing genocide. Not at all. Just the opposite.
Many people with higher IQ's and lots of money tend to dabble in eugenics. They look at all those icky smelly poor people and wonder how to prevent these people from existing in the future, it's not done out of compassion or concern, it's done to clear the countryside of an eyesore.
Now I'm all for not having kids, I don't have any use for the religious right and their obsession with abortion, even though I personally view abortion as murder. The problem is they turned this issue into a religious matter, instead of a more straight forward matter of being non-violent, which abortion is an act of violence against the will of a future person.
Yep. Still looking for some sort of proof of Bill Gates advocating any of that. To date I have looked at what was presented on this thread and there has been no discussions by Bill Gates advocating anything of the sort. People may want to twist and construe, but that’s not data or info or proof.
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Hey, believe what you will. Dude specifically talked about reducing the earth’s population or growth via vaccines and reproductive health services. You can take it how you want, but it was clear he’s pushing for reduction of people.
Ask bill gates how he survived without any of these vaccines growing up and what makes him think these vaccines are gonna magically solve the problem of poverty.
Vaccines don't mean shit if you don't have clean drinking water and enough food.
So what is the real agenda, why the need to cross the globe injecting the secret sauce in the worlds population.
Give me plenty of food, water, shelter, tools, access to basic education and healthcare and most humans will thrive. There's no urgency in brewing up something in a lab and injecting people, humans have survived all sorts of calamities in their 250,000 years on this planet, it's called the immune system and it's pretty damn good.
Well the question is do we use available tech to slow death and suffering. Clearly some advocate letting people die.
Polio and smallpox would thrive and we would sit by and let it happen? Where’s the humanity in that?
Bill Gates never advocated population reduction. That’s Very simply a popular sound bite among deep conspiracy theorists.
Polio and smallpox would thrive and we would sit by and let it happen? Where’s the humanity in that?
Bill Gates never advocated population reduction. That’s Very simply a popular sound bite among deep conspiracy theorists.
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I might believe that if I didn’t post the entire video for context sake.
A short list of vaccines were developed and it was a good thing.
Polio was mainly the problem of dirty drinking water, poor sanitation, but nonetheless it was a good vaccine and one that could be administered orally.
There's no doubt that a core set of vaccines were a good idea, especially for those that are young to alleviate pain and suffering.
However we've gone thermal nuclear with the explosion of vaccines, much like legislators that sit on their ass all day dreaming up new regulations and laws to bring in revenue. So do labs today with all this equipment and manpower needing to find new sources of revenue.
Big Pharma has caused endless problems for Americans, but for some reason we think their vaccines are necessary, no matter even if it's a guessing game which strains will be relevant each season.
So if it was just a matter of me voluntarily buying their product with no social or governmental coercion it wouldn't be a big deal, be we both know the law is gonna force this stuff if you go to school, work, if you try to collect your tax return.
Imagine Africans sitting around in a panel discussing how to stunt our population growth in the United States. Wouldn't that seem a bit odd?
Of course we have a rich white guy(gates) discussing how to keep the black population from growing so he can pass on those nice beach resorts in Southern Africa to his fellow rich folk.
Of course we have a rich white guy(gates) discussing how to keep the black population from growing so he can pass on those nice beach resorts in Southern Africa to his fellow rich folk.
Except that the video didn’t reveal anything at all. You were kind to link it, and I watched it and noted the arguments presented against him and they all fell flat.
Gates never participated in a globally televised Ted Talk to revel his plan for global population reduction. A video of him talking to three guys about getting rid of all the disgusting little poor people?- I’d like to see that. And a secret video would be a lot more believable. But no one reveals their plans to kill billions on a Ted Talk.
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Believe what you want. I’m not even going to bother arguing.
Just watched the FT video. Thanks for posting it. Again, no mention of killing people to reduce population
he starts by saying how great things are looking globally. Except Africa due to huge population growth which will led to poverty UNLESS we invest in capital.
He mentions this capital as education, health, nutrition, and reproductive rights for women
he mentions that with these capital investments the Growing youth of Africa can then help the continent.
sorry but again, he is not in the least advocating genocide.
he starts by saying how great things are looking globally. Except Africa due to huge population growth which will led to poverty UNLESS we invest in capital.
He mentions this capital as education, health, nutrition, and reproductive rights for women
he mentions that with these capital investments the Growing youth of Africa can then help the continent.
sorry but again, he is not in the least advocating genocide.
This should make you feel better. I still dont trust him
www.snopes.com/fact-check/bill-gates-vaccinations-depopulation/
Bill Gates has openly admitted that vaccinations are designed so that governments can depopulate the world.
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On 21 January 2016, dubious news and conspiracy theory site Your News Wire (now NewsPunch) published an articlewith the headline “Bill Gates Admits ‘Vaccines Are Best Way to Depopulate’”. The article opened with a damning assertion: “Bill Gates has openly admitted that vaccinations are designed so that governments can depopulate the world.”
To support this claim, the site presented a February 2011 video clip of Bill Gates being interviewed by CNN’s Sanjay Gupta about his foundation’s vaccination efforts:
Dr. Sanjay Gupta: Ten billion dollars over the next 10 years to make it “the year of the vaccines.” What does that mean exactly?
Bill Gates: Over this decade, we believe unbelievable progress can be made, in both inventing new vaccines and making sure they get out to all the children who need them … We only need about six or seven more — and then you would have all the tools to reduce childhood death, reduce population growth, and everything — the stability, the environment — benefits from that.
To make sure the point was not lost on the reader, Your News Wire repeated the “reduce population growth” emphasized above numerous times at a variety of different playback speeds, as if to suggest this were a slip of the tongue revealing some nefarious secret. This narrative was reinforced with another video that opens with this text
Next are two short excerpts from a recently filmed TED presentation (Feb 2010) by none other than Bill “Microsoft” Gates … As Gates casually addresses the issue [of reducing carbon emissions], he goes on to state that one way to accomplish this goal is to reduce the global human population.
In the first clip you will hear him state in plain language that he considers VACCINES to be desirable to that end. You will also casually hear him promoting HEALTH CARE and REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH SERVICES, to accomplish that same goal.
In the second excerpt you will hear Gates again confirming his profound affection for vaccines.
The damming moment, according to Your News Wire was the following statement from Gates: “First, we’ve got population. The world today has 6.8 billion people. That’s headed up to about nine billion. Now, if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by, perhaps, 10 or 15 percent …”
The suggestion, hinted at by both of these clips and argued later in the article, was that Gates knows vaccines are dangerous — and he is using this information to kill children in the developing world to stem population growth. In reality, however, Gates’ statements regarding vaccines and population growth were neither an accidental slip nor a nefarious admission of plans for a new world order.
As discussed in a 21 November 2011 Forbes cover story profiling the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, reducing population growth has always been integral to their stated mission of “improving people’s health and giving them the chance to lift themselves out of hunger and extreme poverty”:
In 1997, when he and Melinda first ventured into public health … they focused on birth control, funding a Johns Hopkins effort to use computers to help women in the developing world learn about contraception. The logic was crisp and Bill Gates-friendly. Health = resources ÷ people. And since resources, as Gates noted, are relatively fixed, the answer lay in population control.
As further discussed in this piece, Gates later came to the conclusion that birth control was not the best approach to achieve the goal of slower population growth, instead realizing that — counterintuitively — a reduction in childhood mortality was the best way to limit population growth:
In society after society, he saw, when the mortality rate falls—specifically, below 10 deaths per 1,000 people—the birth rate follows, and population growth stabilizes. “It goes against common sense,” Gates says. Most parents don’t choose to have eight children because they want to have big families, it turns out, but because they know many of their children will die.
“If a mother and father know their child is going to live to adulthood, they start to naturally reduce their population size,” says Melinda.
This is a point Gates has made repeatedly, and his views were clearly articulated in the 2009 Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation Annual Letter:
A surprising but critical fact we learned was that reducing the number of deaths actually reduces population growth … Contrary to the Malthusian view that population will grow to the limit of however many kids can be fed, in fact parents choose to have enough kids to give them a high chance that several will survive to support them as they grow old. As the number of kids who survive to adulthood goes up, parents can achieve this goal without having as many children.
In other words, Gates is not interested in using vaccines to reduce the population by using them as an agent of death or a tool to sterilize unsuspecting masses. Rather, Gates is interested in keeping more children alive in order to reduce the need for parents to have more children, thus limiting the overall population growth rate.
As evidenced in a 2014 paperpublished in Science that attempted to calculate future population growth, not everyone is convinced childhood mortality is the smoking gun to quell population growth:
Among the most robust empirical findings in the literature on fertility transitions are that higher contraceptive use and higher female education are associated with faster fertility decline. These suggest that the projected rapid population growth could be moderated by greater investments in family planning programs to satisfy the unmet need for contraception and in girls’ education.
But Gates’ view on childhood mortality contribution to population growth is increasingly discussed in the scientific literature and is still subject to debate. What is not up to debate are the intentions of the Bill and Melinda Gate’s Foundation with regard to vaccines and population growth, as articulated by Bill and Melinda Gates in their Foundation’s 2017 Annual Letter:
Melinda: Saving children’s lives is the goal that launched our global work. It’s an end in itself. But then we learned it has all these other benefits as well. If parents believe their children will survive — and if they have the power to time and space their pregnancies — they choose to have fewer children.
Bill: When a mother can choose how many children to have, her children are healthier, they’re better nourished, their mental capacities are higher — and parents have more time and money to spend on each child’s health and schooling. That’s how families and countries get out of poverty. This link between saving lives, a lower birthrate, and ending poverty was the most important early lesson Melinda and I learned about global health.
This is obviously a far cry from, as Your News Wire.com put it, having Bill Gates tell us “how we must all consent to a ‘kill the humans’ strategy, to ‘save the planet’ from the carbon dioxide we make.”
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Nope. He certainly did not advocate death as a viable option. On a Ted Talk. Seriously You are reading into something that’s just not there.
"It is fair to say things won’t go back to truly normal until we have a vaccine that we’ve gotten out to basically the entire world," he added.
Maybe not for us, maybe not now...
However his primary focus isn't on capital investment in Africa. It's on vaccines. You don't see him concentrating on clean drinking water and food, he's talking about jabbing people with needles.
How did I ever survive without bill gates. Lets see. My parents provided clean drinking water, plenty of food, shelter, clothing, education, and access to basic healthcare.
No where on that list was vaccines a priority for me making it almost to 50. Quite the contrary, today's vaccines made me sick, feel like shit for a week. And who knows what they injected in me, 20 years down the road we could have massive numbers of people getting cancer because of something contained in those vaccines.
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