Glad to hear!
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Anabolic Steroids
clearheaded
Member
https://www.steroidsourcetalk.cc/index.php?threads/source-axle-labs-source-permanently-banned.16686/
im sure addressed. but these guys are fakers and possible scammers.... dont trust reviews....
RECEIPTS FROM MODS AT SST
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Axle was found to be creating extensive numbers of fake accounts in order to bolster their sales. They posted fake "blind" testing, bloodwork, and positive anecdotal reviews. They made concerted efforts to attack competition. A brief synopsis can be found below.
1. The "floaters" reported to be found in @MuscleCandy product were posted by @redrum1111
2. The redrum1111 account shared IP addresses with the following accounts:
- Playboi21
- chadwick22
3. Playboi21 was a suspected alt account of someone at JuiceApe as they alluded to plans to rebrand, found here: https://www.steroidsourcetalk.cc/in...losed-by-moderators.15523/page-39#post-133295
4. chadwick22 was at first glance not a particularly suspicious account (apart from shared IPs and similar naming scheme) that could be pinned to Axle, and it had no shared IPs with any other accounts.
4. The chadwick name did however show up once more here: https://www.steroidsourcetalk.cc/index.php?threads/axle-labs-blind-testing-primo-anavar.16849/
5. In the partially censored Client name you can see the bottom of the text that begins "chadwic"
6. With the task number deliberately obfuscated, we looked for reports around a similar analysis date to find task numbers in that range. With the unique key and a bit of bruceforcing (sorry @janoshik!) we were able to locate the full report, found here: Janoshik Analytical
This confirms the email account chadwick8898@proton.me was used, which matches the email used to sign up the chadwick22 account.
7. Now that we've linked BurkDirk and chadwick, things become more simple. A simple shared IP check of BurkDirk reveals that it had 2 shared IPs with AxleLabs. Additionally it had 3 shared IPs with TorTails, which Axle admitted to being an alt account of his when I confronted them on this issue https://i.ibb.co/hR11VRr/image.png
8. Just kidding, they deleted the chat logs where they confessed to a few alt accounts, but that's okay, I had a feeling he might do that: https://ibb.co/P6dXhpx (image hosted at ImgBB)
9. Of course you may remember TorTails (Axle's admitted alt account) shared his bloodwork here: https://www.steroidsourcetalk.cc/in...200mg-week-1363ng-dl-6-81x.16846/#post-141527
He also ordered "blind" Janoshik testing here: https://www.steroidsourcetalk.cc/in...bs-test-e-proviron-arimidex-blind-test.16991/
10. More blood work from jmalchemy here: https://www.steroidsourcetalk.cc/in...g-test-e-week-1781-ng-dl-7-12-multiple.17059/
11. And bilbomaggins9 was kind enough to use a "roidtest" kit on Axle's Tren Ace: https://www.steroidsourcetalk.cc/in...-permanently-banned.16686/page-11#post-141202
Now things are getting longwinded, but of course it doesn't end here. He can't stop. This is all he knows.
12. The account @Pipewella went from being a big fan of Axle Labs to being upset at seeing him being removed. He went as far as to make a post calling SST a joke for banning Axle here: https://ibb.co/wQHpqxt (image hosted at ImgBB)
13. The user made multiple more posts but refused to acknowledge my offer to show proof if Axle consented to it publicly: https://www.steroidsourcetalk.cc/in...s-source-permanently-banned.16686/post-144603
14. I believe that when Axle saw that this sort of public argument would only put him in a corner to consent to full disclosure of logs, he deleted his posts.
15. @Pipewella logged out on Friday, November 3rd, at 10:50AM PST.
16. 4 minutes later at 10:54AM PST on the same day, the account @Bgainz2100 was created. With a Shared IP address. He forgot to switch his VPN before submitting his registration: https://ibb.co/r3v8dFC (image hosted at ImgBB)
17. Axle quickly got to work on his new @Bgainz2100 account to make lukewarm defenses for his lab: https://www.steroidsourcetalk.cc/in...s-source-permanently-banned.16686/post-144853
[Source] Axle Labs - SOURCE PERMANENTLY BANNED
Wow, sorry to spam the thread, but almost all positive reviews are from new accounts and even when you look at some of the accounts from 2021-22 they are banned lol. I am starting to think I made a mistake.www.steroidsourcetalk.cc
18. Now he's of course tried to be a bit more subtle on this account, inquiring about which of the banned accounts are shills, leaving generic feedback/questions in other source threads, but we've known since he registered the account that it was him and I've chosen to sit back and watch. You can see he holds a tiny bit of a grudge against SST for having been caught: https://www.steroidsourcetalk.cc/in...s-source-permanently-banned.16686/post-145000 "
Scroll back through the first couple pages of this thread.
We are not scammers. We have not scammed a single person and we don't have a single unsatisfied customer. Thanks for your input though.
Clappincheeks
Member
yeah you keep saying that but the facts are stated above. People would probably have more respect for you if you'd just come clean.
You mean you have not stolen money from anyone.. certainly making fake accounts to promote yourself. Fake blind tests and misleading information about other south is scamming. Well. Everyone..
We have not stolen money from a single person. If we have, please go ahead and speak out in this thread. We have fulfilled every single order and have not had a single complaint.
You can easily disprove this by placing a small anonymous order and if we're so called scammers, you can come post here. Go ahead and test whatever you order also (we'd cover testing costs + give store credit). Even more ammo for you, right?
clearheaded
Member
I guess the questions is why did u fake test results? what was the purpose if top grade stuff?
Do you think its ethical to make multiple accounts and make fake reviews? does that make it more trustworthy? someone who will make things right?
maybe great stuff, maybe all on the up and up... but again, why fake anything if results would speak for themselves, and why have shill accounts ?
Do you think its ethical to make multiple accounts and make fake reviews? does that make it more trustworthy? someone who will make things right?
maybe great stuff, maybe all on the up and up... but again, why fake anything if results would speak for themselves, and why have shill accounts ?
I dont think they faked any results but if the shill account thing is true, they posted test results from accounts outside of their own account.. which is a bit unethical. I'm sure many other sources do this, but definitely doesnt make it ok.
So much crapalappa here and maybe look for better options than this source.
I did not say you stole from anyone. Read it out loud very slowly if that helps.
Vanargandar
Well-known Member
I know that you're trying to cleverly deflect what people are trying to say, which is, you are not "scammers" in the traditional sense (i.e. you haven't stolen money from buyers or sent bunk/unsterile gear), rather, in the past you have used questionable tactics in order to boost sales via alt accounts, fake blind testing, etc.
I firmly believe if you simply admitted to this, asked MESO to look past a few mistakes, and let your product(s) speak for themself, that you'd gain a lot more sales from more skeptical members, including myself.
Simply put, just be a man (or ladyboy) and own up to your bullshit.
I sent you a DM with a screenshot
All sorted!
Nope, no extra solvents in the Mast-E High concentration.
Haha I don't blame you! Guaiacol does smell terrible.
Iamnatty
Well-known Member
Making fake accounts with fake reviews and fake “blind testing “. Is being a scamming pos. Isn’t that funny how the same thing is happening here with a bunch of newbies saying how great you are.
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