Blood Pressure

[Jet Labs]

116/75, 79 bpm

After spending several days last week with systolic up in the 140s, probably due to external stressors, I am happy to see it down again, even if briefly.

As a reminder, though, this is blood pressure suppressed on telmisartan, not natty, 100mg cruise, 2 iu hgh

I bet you good money if you drop the hgh your bp will drop as well within a week.

IMHO there's more health benefits from no hgh and lower bp compared to hgh and higher bp.

 

[may2021]

116/75, 79 bpm

After spending several days last week with systolic up in the 140s, probably due to external stressors, I am happy to see it down again, even if briefly.

As a reminder, though, this is blood pressure suppressed on telmisartan, not natty, 100mg cruise, 2 iu hgh

Which BP monitor/kit is most reliable in your experience? Thanks

 

[Skarpyona]

Which BP monitor/kit is most reliable in your experience? Thanks

Life Source
BIOS
Omron

So long as you don't buy bottom of the barrel, you'll be alright. Wrist cuffs also tend to be a little more inaccurate than an arm cuff. I use a wrist cuff but will do several readings and average them out. Sometimes it will throw a bad reading (absurdly low or absurdly high).

 

[may2021]

Life Source
BIOS
Omron

So long as you don't buy bottom of the barrel, you'll be alright. Wrist cuffs also tend to be a little more inaccurate than an arm cuff. I use a wrist cuff but will do several readings and average them out. Sometimes it will throw a bad reading (absurdly low or absurdly high).

Thanks, Bro

 

[Skarpyona]

Thanks, Bro

No problem buddy.
I'm proud of you for taking these small steps to keep track of your health. Blood pressure is a silent killer and often goes unnoticed and unchecked until it's too late.

We owe it to ourselves and out loved ones to be responsible and as healthy as possible

 

[malfeasance]

I can't find arm cuff types with a properly sized arm, so I use a wrist cuff.

 

[Skarpyona]

I can't find arm cuff types with a properly sized arm, so I use a wrist cuff.

Sounds like a good problem to have

 

[malfeasance]

Supposedly if you get one that is not large enough, it reads falsely high.

"If the cuff is too small, it can add 2 to 10 points your reading." Factors That Can Exaggerate Blood Pressure Readings - CVG Cares

 

[malfeasance]

Why the size of your blood pressure cuff matters

Accurate blood pressure readings depend on the proper size blood pressure cuff.

www.mayoclinic.org

 

[malfeasance]

An actual study. The effect of cuff size on blood pressure measurement in adults - PubMed

 

[Skarpyona]

Supposedly if you get one that is not large enough, it reads falsely high.

"If the cuff is too small, it can add 2 to 10 points your reading." Factors That Can Exaggerate Blood Pressure Readings - CVG Cares

Yup, that's true. I couldn't find any cuffs that can accommodate bigger than 17.5-18" arms locally so I figured I'd just get a cuff monitor, average out a few readings, and assume it's slightly higher

 

[Skarpyona]

Here's a real head scratcher for you guys.

I started ephedrine recently, and while on it had fantastic all time lows on my BP. Mean while I was borderline having tachycardia.

I've been off it for 3 days now, and my HR is finally in a range that's normal. Much to my surprise, my BP is up! 126/78

Is there some kind of correlation between higher HR and lower BP? I was under the impression ephedrine jacked blood pressure, not the other way around.

 

[Cmillis]

The Different Therapeutic Choices with ARBs. Which One to Give? When? Why?

The renin–angiotensin–aldosterone system plays an important role in the pathophysiology of hypertension and is closely related with cardio- and cerebrovascular events and chronic kidney diseases. Each angiotensin receptor blocker (ARB) ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Good read about which ARB to use, when and why

 

[jJjburton]

my bp went from 140/80 to 123/80 from lowering water retention with an AI

 

[Skarpyona]

my bp went from 140/80 to 123/80 from lowering water retention with an AI

I believe you!

When my estrogen was sky high, systolic and diastolic were both 10-15 points higher than average

 

[Bumpygooch]

119/60 today, taken by a HC professional. My omron has been producing some bizarre readings recently, 160/70, 155/65. Remembered @malfeasance post about cuff size. Seems I’ve outgrown my cuff.

 

[PeterBond]

119/60 today, taken by a HC professional. My omron has been producing some bizarre readings recently, 160/70, 155/65. Remembered @malfeasance post about cuff size. Seems I’ve outgrown my cuff.

Are you measuring it under the conditions as described here: Measuring and Treating High Blood Pressure in Anabolic Steroid Users - MESO-Rx ?

Too small cuff adds a few mmHg, not 40.

 

[Bumpygooch]

Are you measuring it under the conditions as described here: Measuring and Treating High Blood Pressure in Anabolic Steroid Users - MESO-Rx ?

Too small cuff adds a few mmHg, not 40.

Will try to do it correctly as per the literature. I don’t think I did any of those measuring at home. Mixed in those absurdly high readings are some 129/65, 130/68, etc. So, definitely user error.

 

[jolter604]

I been taking natural crap that is supposed to lower it. It works until I add tren and then game over.
And now I'm older even Nandrolone spikes it fast.
When I was young only eq make it go nuts but lately even trt has it higher then normal.

 

[malfeasance]

Somebody help me. What is FCMax?

To answer this question, a team of Norwegian researchers compared effects on different cardiovascular functions following high intensity interval training (HIIT) or moderate intensity continuous training (MICT). For this, the researchers recruited 88 patients (39 women and 49 men aged 52.0 ± 7.8 years, and 15 people including 8 women later dropped out) suffering from stage 1-2 hypertension, defined as systolic pressure included between 140 and 179 mmHg and / or a diastolic pressure included between 90 and 109 mmHg. For 12 weeks, three times a week, these patients were divided into 3 groups :

• HIIT group (n = 25) : At each training session, patients warmed up for 10 minutes at 60% FCMAX and then performed 4 x 4-minute intervals at 90-95% FCMAX while walking or running on a treadmill uphill with 3 minutes of active recovery between each interval at 60-70% FCMAX. The session ended with 3 minutes cool down. The session lasted 38 minutes.
• MICT Group (n = 23) : At each training session, patients walked or ran at 70% FCMAX for 47 minutes to perform isocaloric training with the HIIT group.
• Control Group (n = 25) : These patients received the standard recommendations for high blood pressure including the practice of physical activity, but without any supervision.

The blood pressure (systolic and diastolic pressure) and the heart rate were measured before and after the 12 weeks of the protocol for a whole day thanks to a device that measured them every 15 minutes during the day (between 6am and 10pm) and all the 30 minutes during the night (between 22h and 6h).

VO2MAX and maximum heart rate (FCMAX) were assessed on a treadmill. And endothelial function was measured as flow-mediated dilatation in the brachial artery via ultrasound. Endothelium-independent dilatation was measured after administration of 0.5 mg nitroglycerin under the tongue. Echocardiography and total peripheral resistance measurement were also performed. Finally, quality of life was also assessed before and after the protocol.

Results & Analyzes​

The main results of this study show that HIIT and MICT allow a significant decrease in systolic blood pressure (12 vs. 4.5 mmHg) and diastolic blood pressure (8 vs. 3.5 mmHg), but the systolic reduction with HIIT was significantly higher(Fig. 1 and 2). In the HIIT group, 28% of patients achieved a reduction in systolic blood pressure greater than 15 mmHg and 36% of patients had a reduction of 5-15 mmHg. The systolic blood pressure of approximately 24% of patients in the HIIT group returned to normal (<130 mmHg). In the MICT group, only 1 person and in the Control group, only 1 person got normal values after the protocol. To compare, a meta-analysis with 10968 participants showed that the reduction in hypertension using a single type of drug was 7.3 to 9.3 mmHg.

HIIT and Hypertension : Improvement of cardiovascular functions

High blood pressure is responsible for more than 7 million deaths a year. Indeed, the increase in blood pressure is an important risk factor for cardiovascular diseases. What is the impact of HIIT ?

www.sci-sport.com