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Blood test- Bayer Testoviron (naps)

CensoredBoardsSuck said:
Can you provide an explanation for why these Pakistani Bayer Testoviron amps look different? They both came from you.

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Oh, i'm really looking forward to hearing this explanation. Pretty much painted into a corner i would think. I guess the next step would be showing a lab report that came back at 50mg per cc .

Wasn't it last year that someone tested an amp of test or sustanon that had 25mg per cc of actual product in them? Yea, things are sad all over.
 
CensoredBoardsSuck said:
Let's assume what you say is true. Why, then, are there several suppliers selling counterfeits, including a certain uncle who was forced to rename his counterfeits 'working replicas' after he got caught? (you know who I'm talking about)

The point is, it's done. And it's done all the time. So there must be an easier way than "making an official purchase of the real product in Karachi and paying for it less then a $1 per amp," otherwise, no one would be doing it.
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It's simple. The supplier you are referring to is operating from EU. You can't just bring what you saw on the pics into an EU country officially through a legit contract with the pharmaceutical company. He has to use intermediaries, "connections" to be able to smuggle the real product from third world countries. This all increases the costs and risks dramatically. This is when a supplier is tempted to go to the dark side.

You know that for obvious reasons I can't upload the documents that will prove direct business transactions with a pharmaceutical company but check the details of the pics again. This is not how the fakes are packaged, this is not how the fakes are smuggled (factory boxes etc). Damn, you can simply visit a pharmaceutical exhibition in Asia or Middle East and get plenty of legit offers. The problem is not to find a genuine product, the problem is to bring the product into the country where you can safely ship it from.
 
CensoredBoardsSuck said:
Can you provide an explanation for why these Pakistani Bayer Testoviron amps look different? They both came from you.

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Do both amps have the Bayer logo on them? The one in the circle. Can I have the order numbers to be able to check a few things?
 
naps said:
Do both amps have the Bayer logo on them? The one in the circle. Can I have the order numbers to be able to check a few things?
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Both have the Bayer logo and both have the same numbers:

MFG Lic. No. 000243
REGN. No. 000909

If you mean the customer's personal order number, I'll tag your customers and they can provide that info. They will be interested in your explanation, anyway.

@lucabratzi and @Volley_Fire.
 
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naps said:
It's simple. The supplier you are referring to is operating from EU. You can't just bring what you saw on the pics into an EU country officially through a legit contract with the pharmaceutical company. He has to use intermediaries, "connections" to be able to smuggle the real product from third world countries. This all increases the costs and risks dramatically. This is when a supplier is tempted to go to the dark side.
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Interesting. Your argument makes sense and is one I hadn't considered. I have no doubt that Middle Eastern and Asian pharm companies are willing to sell their wares to anyone willing to buy.
 
Regarding blood plasma levels...

The lab I use for blood testing caps Testosterone at 1500ng/dL.

I was on underdosed Test-E thinking I'm taking 2 x 300mg a week. It was later confirmed the actual dosage was 100mg/mL. The blood plasma levels still peaked, so at least 1500ng/dL. It was 60 hours after the last injection.

So from 200mg/week I got at least 1500ng/dL plasma levels. That's at least 7.5x.
 
And regarding Testoviron ampoules...

Is it honestly so common for these Pakistani amps to differ so much between batches? If not, some standard for a legit amp should be established and all the other amps compared to it.

I like the Thailand Testoviron. Legit amps all look the same. And there are some good characteristics to look for. Such as the scoring on the amp neck which is perfectly aligned with the dot on the amp head. Etc...
 
@CensoredBoardsSuck thanks for bringing this up.

@naps the pic of the two amps are from me. I don't have time to go through order numbers now cause I'm traveling.

I will be getting bloods in a few weeks on the amps on the left. Then I'll switch to the new "fatter tip" amps on the right and get bloods shortly after.
 
CensoredBoardsSuck said:
Both have the Bayer logo and both have the same numbers:

MFG Lic. No. 000243
REGN. No. 000909

If you mean the customer's personal order number, I'll tag your customers and they can provide that info. They will be interested in your explanation, anyway.

@lucabratzi and @Volley_Fire.
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you can also check out my thread i just posted here. Its about the same thing but organon sust. I will take pics of my testoviron later.

https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/organon-sust-pics-questionable.134365578/
 
CensoredBoardsSuck said:
Interesting. Your argument makes sense and is one I hadn't considered. I have no doubt that Middle Eastern and Asian pharm companies are willing to sell their wares to anyone willing to buy.
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You'd be suprised. The US had had a major influence on these manufacturers. Knowing what you must go through to purchase these goods from major EU manufacturers I can say with confidence NAPS is most likely full of shit.

If they are legit its purchased from a distributor. But considering how shady NAPS has been, low bloods, and taking into account how cheap and simple it is to counterfeit I highley doubt any thing they say has any truth to it.

Not to mention if they were to deal with big pharm the US would bribe the manufacturer 10 fold to make the "biggest steroid bust ever" along with threats to remove their product of USA market. No billion dollar company wants to be labeled as aiding the drug cartel.
 
These amps have been counterfeited for years. Odds are 9:1 that you will always obtain a counterfeit amp claiming pharma. Its too my surprise people continue to buy these things.
 
I ordered 10 amps of the Testoviron Depot 250 from @naps, pinned one last Friday, feeling pretty good. But I was already taking 250 from EuroChem and wanted to try some presumably pharma grade TestE. I'll post pics when I get home. Have bloods scheduled for June 30th, may reschedule to get them a week sooner. I am a little concerned now based on what I am reading, but crossing my fingers in hopes that everything is legitimate. The other goods I received from Naps seem to be working just fine...Provi, ADEX, HCG.
 
Masterchief07 said:
I ordered 10 amps of the Testoviron Depot 250 from @naps, pinned one last Friday, feeling pretty good. But I was already taking 250 from EuroChem and wanted to try some presumably pharma grade TestE. I'll post pics when I get home. Have bloods scheduled for June 30th, may reschedule to get them a week sooner. I am a little concerned now based on what I am reading, but crossing my fingers in hopes that everything is legitimate. The other goods I received from Naps seem to be working just fine...Provi, ADEX, HCG.
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Cool, bro. I look forward to your blood results.
 
Yeah, me too haha.

@lucabratzi, do you notice any difference between consistency of the liquid when comparing the two amps above?

I'll double check once I get home, but if I recall correctly, mine resemble the one's on the left. And the liquid was almost clear when drawn, looked very clean. Definitely thicker than other oils I've seen, but not like molasses as I have heard before. I mean, it moves pretty well within the amp itself but from what I had read, I was expecting something far thicker. Even so, the slightly thicker liquid from my amps was most noticeable when injecting. Required more force. Worth noting--my amps are stored at approx 70F.
 
Masterchief07 said:
Yeah, me too haha.

@lucabratzi, do you notice any difference between consistency of the liquid when comparing the two amps above?

I'll double check once I get home, but if I recall correctly, mine resemble the one's on the left. And the liquid was almost clear when drawn, looked very clean. Definitely thicker than other oils I've seen, but not like molasses as I have heard before. I mean, it moves pretty well within the amp itself but from what I had read, I was expecting something far thicker. Even so, the slightly thicker liquid from my amps was most noticeable when injecting. Required more force. Worth noting--my amps are stored at approx 70F.
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Honestly I don't remember a difference. If there was a difference id remember. Mines pretty thick.

I'm gonna schedule blood for hoeofully end of this week
 
Okay, cool. It seems you're taking the same amps as @TUD, which we have seemingly confirmed are legitimate over the course of this thread. I am wondering how the fatter tips ones will fare, those being the ones I am taking now. Pinning my second amp this coming Friday.

By the way, how do you guys both feel? I am feeling okay, just working on tuning my E2, so can be a little up or down. Generally alright. But was expecting a greater bump in energy and sense of well-being. At this very moment, I feel like I was doing better on the EuroChem 250. Could be placebo. Who knows.
 
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