Does anyone know if using deca will skew testosterone levels?
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Blood test- Bayer Testoviron (naps)
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Masterchief07
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If I understand correctly, Deca shuts down your natural test production. So any external form of testosterone should show up exactly as its being dosed.
I thought I read that when getting bloods deca can show up as test.
Masterchief07
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Yeah, I don't think that's accurate because Deca is nandrolone, not test and hence shouldn't affect your TT.
Jeep187
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Go to The steroid lab testing forum and there is a post by Burr that will tell you everything you need to know. It's in the sticky threads.
Jeep187
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This is the test you want to get
Masterchief07
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Unfortunately, won't work for us here in NY. 
@lucabratzi @TUD Quick question. How thick was the liquid in your amps? Was is literally like molasses? Everything I am reading seems to contradict how thick the oil is in the amps I received--which is not like molasses.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wpafgxfkzasxn9u/2015-06-01 22.08.27.mp4?dl=0
Have a look at that video. It moves quite freely.
Here is an excerpt from someone using Bayer amps via RX:
"They are always distinctly extremely thick, like molasses. They have an aroma that I have never smelled before. It's a very sweet distinct smell. The oil in the amp has to be heated in order for it to leave the neck. If the amps are cold the oil will not move.
Before injection I always have to heat the oil. When I crack open an amp it takes me a good 30 to 45 seconds just to withdraw the oil. It's that thick."
@lucabratzi @TUD Quick question. How thick was the liquid in your amps? Was is literally like molasses? Everything I am reading seems to contradict how thick the oil is in the amps I received--which is not like molasses.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wpafgxfkzasxn9u/2015-06-01 22.08.27.mp4?dl=0
Have a look at that video. It moves quite freely.
Here is an excerpt from someone using Bayer amps via RX:
"They are always distinctly extremely thick, like molasses. They have an aroma that I have never smelled before. It's a very sweet distinct smell. The oil in the amp has to be heated in order for it to leave the neck. If the amps are cold the oil will not move.
Before injection I always have to heat the oil. When I crack open an amp it takes me a good 30 to 45 seconds just to withdraw the oil. It's that thick."
Unfortunately, won't work for us here in NY.
@lucabratzi @TUD Quick question. How thick was the liquid in your amps? Was is literally like molasses? Everything I am reading seems to contradict how thick the oil is in the amps I received--which is not like molasses.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wpafgxfkzasxn9u/2015-06-01 22.08.27.mp4?dl=0
Have a look at that video. It moves quite freely.
Here is an excerpt from someone using Bayer amps via RX:
"They are always distinctly extremely thick, like molasses. They have an aroma that I have never smelled before. It's a very sweet distinct smell. The oil in the amp has to be heated in order for it to leave the neck. If the amps are cold the oil will not move.
Before injection I always have to heat the oil. When I crack open an amp it takes me a good 30 to 45 seconds just to withdraw the oil. It's that thick."
Mine seems thicker. I have to flick both kind of Amps to get it go down. And yea it take at least 45 seconds w a 20g to draw out.
Unfortunately, won't work for us here in NY.
@lucabratzi @TUD Quick question. How thick was the liquid in your amps? Was is literally like molasses? Everything I am reading seems to contradict how thick the oil is in the amps I received--which is not like molasses.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wpafgxfkzasxn9u/2015-06-01 22.08.27.mp4?dl=0
Have a look at that video. It moves quite freely.
Here is an excerpt from someone using Bayer amps via RX:
"They are always distinctly extremely thick, like molasses. They have an aroma that I have never smelled before. It's a very sweet distinct smell. The oil in the amp has to be heated in order for it to leave the neck. If the amps are cold the oil will not move.
Before injection I always have to heat the oil. When I crack open an amp it takes me a good 30 to 45 seconds just to withdraw the oil. It's that thick."
Mine are pretty thick, takes a few minutes to inject with 25g
Same here, oil is always stuck at the top and I have to always flick it to get the oil back to the bottom.
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i dont know, i had bayer amps from spetz that i thought were good because they took 1 1/2 mins to pull at room temp. Smelled sweetish kind of piney,pungent, but not thick like molasses,everybody i know enjoyed them and i treated them like they were real,but now days with every other post being about counterfeit/fake gear(some even from pharmaciesWTF) i aint convinced unless i walk out the mother fucking factory with it, and then i better check the city I am in,to make sure I AM IN THE REAL FACTORY!!! Fuck it, i think i will keep it cheep and stick with my go to ugl's..... Fuck a ching chang chong 100dollar fake amp making mother fucker,If i was the man i was 10min. Ago i would take a flame thrower to that bitch,KING KONG AINT GOT SHIT ON ME!!!im going to the gym.. .Unfortunately, won't work for us here in NY.
@lucabratzi @TUD Quick question. How thick was the liquid in your amps? Was is literally like molasses? Everything I am reading seems to contradict how thick the oil is in the amps I received--which is not like molasses.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wpafgxfkzasxn9u/2015-06-01 22.08.27.mp4?dl=0
Have a look at that video. It moves quite freely.
Here is an excerpt from someone using Bayer amps via RX:
"They are always distinctly extremely thick, like molasses. They have an aroma that I have never smelled before. It's a very sweet distinct smell. The oil in the amp has to be heated in order for it to leave the neck. If the amps are cold the oil will not move.
Before injection I always have to heat the oil. When I crack open an amp it takes me a good 30 to 45 seconds just to withdraw the oil. It's that thick."
Masterchief07
Member
Lmao. Do you guys store at room temp or refrigerate? It was approx 70-72F when I recorded that video. I just threw a box in the fridge to gauge the change. All in all, won't really know till I get bloods I guess. I have no damn patience though haha
Masterchief07
Member
Hmm, even refrigerated for the past 2 hours, while much slower, it still moves up and down pretty easily. Only a small amount gets stuck if the air bubble is split or something. Seems very strange how our batches differ so much.
@naps, @Naps-Support any reason for the discrepancy in viscosity?
@naps, @Naps-Support any reason for the discrepancy in viscosity?
Masterchief07
Member
For the record, I did remove the vials from the fridge last night. Not looking to crystallize the test haha.
Anyways, @TUD or @lucabratzi, any chance either of you could record the viscosity of one of your vials? Just for comparative purposes. No worries if not. Thanks!
Anyways, @TUD or @lucabratzi, any chance either of you could record the viscosity of one of your vials? Just for comparative purposes. No worries if not. Thanks!
In the paragraph above it says that's the test if ur not using deca or tren. I'm running npp now so I'll have to use the quest labs I think.
Bloods are on Friday. So I should have results next week
Masterchief07
Member
I can't wait to see your results @lucabratzi
How have your gains been thus far off of them? I have put on some weight, approx 5 lbs, since pinning the amps for the first time on May 29th (2nd pin this past Friday). Strength I cannot say just yet. Gym pumps have been good, but that could be due to the Provi I was taking, which I dropped yesterday because it did not increase my libido (even at 100mg/day and 2 diff sources, Geneza and GlobalAnabolics) and only seemed to make my hair fall out. That being said, am taking .35mg LiquidDex from ARR EoD in combination with 500iu's HCG Mon/Thursday, and pinning the amps Friday mornings. What truly baffles me is that my ability to achieve an erection is almost nonexistent. I have been getting morning wood, but rarely evening wood, and everything is pretty much dead during the day. Most likely estro related, but when my estro goes high, I typically get nasty back acne (like welts) and sensitive nipples. That hasn't been happening for the past week.
Oddly, this morning I pinned some HCG and took LiquidDex and my nips are slightly tender, but not that bad. I know bloods are my only chance of knowing what the hell is going on, but I need to wait at least another week or 2 since I pinned EuroChem's Enanject on May 22nd before switching to the Testoviron amps. Have to let that clear out. Its just very strange that my libido and EQ are so poor. The uncertainty is maddening lol thank god my girl is going on vaca for the next 2 weeks. Will give me some time to work this out, hopefully.
How have your gains been thus far off of them? I have put on some weight, approx 5 lbs, since pinning the amps for the first time on May 29th (2nd pin this past Friday). Strength I cannot say just yet. Gym pumps have been good, but that could be due to the Provi I was taking, which I dropped yesterday because it did not increase my libido (even at 100mg/day and 2 diff sources, Geneza and GlobalAnabolics) and only seemed to make my hair fall out. That being said, am taking .35mg LiquidDex from ARR EoD in combination with 500iu's HCG Mon/Thursday, and pinning the amps Friday mornings. What truly baffles me is that my ability to achieve an erection is almost nonexistent. I have been getting morning wood, but rarely evening wood, and everything is pretty much dead during the day. Most likely estro related, but when my estro goes high, I typically get nasty back acne (like welts) and sensitive nipples. That hasn't been happening for the past week.
Oddly, this morning I pinned some HCG and took LiquidDex and my nips are slightly tender, but not that bad. I know bloods are my only chance of knowing what the hell is going on, but I need to wait at least another week or 2 since I pinned EuroChem's Enanject on May 22nd before switching to the Testoviron amps. Have to let that clear out. Its just very strange that my libido and EQ are so poor. The uncertainty is maddening lol thank god my girl is going on vaca for the next 2 weeks. Will give me some time to work this out, hopefully.
Should have them this week. I'll tag you in the thread I make.
Hard to tell on the gains cause I'm pinning npp as well and holy shit does it make a difference. Pumps are insane, sex drive through the roof, up 12+lbs in less than a month (been eating like a mad man). I guess bloods will tell.
Masterchief07
Member
Cool, thanks! And very interesting to hear that regarding NPP. I suppose the "deca dick" side is easily countered by legitimate test, so that's a promising sign. Glad to hear.
It's wierd I've heard so many people talk about being horny on tren. I noticed a difference but not like this. I have to have a few sessions a day either w my girl or solo.
Masterchief07
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You're on tren too?
