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Can touching a barbell in the gym get you sick with the coronavirus?

The COVID symptom tracker was created by doctors and scientists at Massachusetts General Hospital, the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, King's College London and Stanford University School of Medicine, working codeveloped with ZOE – a health science company.

The app will be used to study the symptoms of COVID-19 and track the spread of this virus. COVID Symptom Tracker - Help slow the spread of COVID-19

Take 1 minute each day and help fight the outbreak in your community

· Report your health daily even if you feel well
· Get a daily estimate of COVID in your area
· Help slow the outbreak near you
 
Old said:
Harvard researchers warn social-distancing measures may need to remain in place into 2022
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Agree.
The CDC director said:

"This virus is going to be with us"
I don't think anybody would disagree that for decades, collectively, our nation's underinvested in public health. Now, I think people understand that that can really have significant consequences, and now is the time for us to overinvest overprepare in public health.

This virus is going to be with us. I'm hopeful that we'll get through this first wave and, and have some time to prepare for the second wave. I'm hopeful that the private sector in its ingenuity and working with the government, NIH, will develop a vaccine that ultimately will change the impact of this virus.

But for the next 24 months, you know, we're all in this together, and the most important thing that we can do is twofold: the American public fully embracing the social distancing that we requested to protect the vulnerable; and secondly, to operationalize the bread and butter of public health
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/03/31/824155179/cdc-director-on-models-for-the-months-to-come-this-virus-is-going-to-be-with-us
So don't you worry about getting infected in the gym.
They won't open for a couple years.


Michael Scally MD said:
The COVID symptom tracker was created by doctors and scientists at Massachusetts General Hospital, the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, King's College London and Stanford University School of Medicine, working codeveloped with ZOE – a health science company.

The app will be used to study the symptoms of COVID-19 and track the spread of this virus. COVID Symptom Tracker - Help slow the spread of COVID-19

Take 1 minute each day and help fight the outbreak in your community

· Report your health daily even if you feel well
· Get a daily estimate of COVID in your area
· Help slow the outbreak near you
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The CDC director said "up to 25%" don't show symtoms.
CDC Director On Models For The Months To Come: 'This Virus Is Going To Be With Us'

Some say it's actually as high as 80%
 


Scrubhub
Free Hand Washing Videos - Hands, Soap, and Suds For Charity | Scrubhub

From the minds behind Amazon Dating and Pornhub comes Scrubhub, a safe-for-work parody site that advocates for handwashing: Scrubhub.

Scrubhub has a collection of satirical handwashing videos featuring both everyday people and Pornhub models like Asa Akira, and will also feature lives twice daily at 12 p.m. and 6 p.m. PST with musicians, comedians, and the like. The site's purpose is to emphasize the importance of hand-washing with lightness and humor. While it comes months after the CDC enforced these measures, it's never a bad reminder to just wash your damn hands.

"We wanted to take something as mundane as washing your hands and make it entertaining in the only way we know how (by taking a joke way too far)," said Ani Acopian and Suzy Shinn, who partnered with Pornhub to make Scrubhub a reality, in a press release. Previously, Acopian and Shinn created the parody site Amazon Dating.

"Over the past few weeks, the one thing that has been repeated by literally everyone – politicians, scientists, celebrities and athletes – has been the importance of washing your hands thoroughly with soap and water to protect against this virus," said Corey Price, Vice President of Pornhub, in a press release. "We thought this presented a unique opportunity for Pornhub to bring some joy to something that has become so mundane and repetitive."
 
So you guys know what I do for a living. Great and fun job. My wife however has a serious job that's not exactly an easy day to day life. She's a hygienist. It's fast paced, non stop and prior to covid was considered one of the most dangerous jobs on the planet. Guess what?


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Old said:
This is a persistent/stealthy bug. There were 10% (if I remember correctly) in China that they thought were cured but were not. In order to compare, I'd like to know if influenza A or B can come back after the tests says its gone.

In all probability, the test isn't sensitive enough. But it could be the bug gets 'dormant' for a while the out again as mentioned above. Also catching a mutation that escapes current immunity could be happening.

There is a lot of optimism for vaccines (in 12-18 months). But they don't have it for other coronaviruses (common cold or SARS or MERS) - so why this one? And after about 40 years of working on an HIV vaccine ... where is it?

Granted there is a lot more motivation to get a cure or at least a treatment. Suspect antivirals will be the first reality but we'll have to be on them frequently.


I don't post this way to be morbid. Its just serious. And worrying about jobs and economy is real too. But people still want to think this will go away quickly like waking from a bad dream. Or that its just something old people will need to worry about - and they don't matter, lol.

Disasters reveal a lot about people. This is a disaster ... but one mankind will learn to deal with and resume life again, albeit there must be changes.
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They don’t have vaccines for the common cold because it’s not economically viable. There are so many strains that it would be impossible to vaccinate everyone for each yearly.

Aren’t there a few PREP meds for HIV that get advertised now? Not to mention people don’t really die from it without treatment.

a lot of your posts are fear mongering and the fact you don’t realize why people aren’t vaccinated for the common cold tells me you’re pulling all this out of your ass.
 
Gigem46 said:
They don’t have vaccines for the common cold because it’s not economically viable. There are so many strains that it would be impossible to vaccinate everyone for each yearly.
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Yet millions of people flock to get flu shots every year anyway. Seems more of a business scam than a health benefit.

Vaccines for the common cold. - PubMed - NCBI
  • "We found no conclusive results to support the use of vaccines for preventing the common cold in healthy people compared with placebo."
https://www.weny.com/story/42013094/as-governments-fumbled-their-coronavirus-response-these-four-got-it-right-heres-how.
  • "Kári Stefánsson, CEO and director of deCODE Geneticsm, told CNN that as of Monday, it had found 528 mutations of the coronavirus in mass testing in the community."
This many mutations for Covid19 which has only been studied a few months. Will one vaccine work for all? ... perhaps.


Gigem46 said:
Aren’t there a few PREP meds for HIV that get advertised now? Not to mention people don’t really die from it without treatment.
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People die from HIV with or without treatment. Survival rate of AIDS disease and mortality in HIV-infected patients: a meta-analysis - ScienceDirect
  • "The 2, 4, 6 yrs survival rates of death in AIDS patients not receiving HAART were 48%, 26%, and 18%, respectively."
  • "The 2, 4, 6, 8, and 10 yrs survival rates of death in AIDS patients receiving HAART were 87%, 86%, 78%, 78%, and 61%."
PrEP is not really a great example to look forward too:
Pre-Exposure Prophylaxis (PrEP) | HIV Risk and Prevention | HIV/AIDS | CDC
  • "PrEP reduces the risk of getting HIV from sex by about 99% when taken daily. Among people who inject drugs, PrEP reduces the risk of getting HIV by at least 74% when taken daily"
Gilead Will Donate Truvada to U.S. for H.I.V. Prevention
  • Side Effects: mental/mood changes (such as depression, anxiety), loss of appetite, stomach or abdominal pain, pink or bloody urine, changes in the amount of urine, nausea, vomiting, stomach pain, diarrhea, headache, dizziness, joint pain, trouble sleeping, strange dreams, back pain, itching or skin rash, changes in the color of skin on your palms or soles of your feet, or changes in the shape or location of body fat (especially in your arms, legs, face, neck, breasts, and waist).
  • Truvada cost $20,000 per year (which is more than treating HIV once someone has got it).
Cost Considerations and Antiretroviral Therapy Limitations to Treatment Safety and Efficacy Adult and Adolescent ARV
  • "A 2015 study using 2012 health care expenditure data estimated that the discounted lifetime medical costs for an individual who acquires HIV at age 35 years is $326,500 ($597,300, undiscounted), with 60% of the costs attributable to ART."

One comparison can be made between HIV and Covid19, both can be resolved without vaccines - behavioral changes. Identify and isolate the contagious. Ironically, since HIV isn't caught off surfaces or airborne, its much easier to control ... why pay $20,000 / year instead of altering behavior? With Covid19, a 100% shutdown for several weeks might do it, but few are that self-sufficient.


Gigem46 said:
a lot of your posts are fear mongering and the fact you don’t realize why people aren’t vaccinated for the common cold tells me you’re pulling all this out of your ass.
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Time and the forum will decide who is talking out of their backside
 
Cell phone data out of China is showing somewhere between 2 - 3 million cells phones have gone dark since this started. Hmmm...
 
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Gyms are eager to reopen, but are they safe?
They were included in the first phase of President Donald Trump's guidelines for reopening the country.

In President Donald Trump's guidelines announced this week for reopening the country, gyms were included in the first phase, "if they adhere to strict physical distancing and sanitation protocols."

Crunch CEO Jim Rowley said the company gave money to the International Health, Racquet & Sportsclub Association to help with its efforts to lobby for the inclusion of gyms in phase one. Both Crunch and the association were surprised to learn gyms had actually been included when the guidelines were released.

"It was probably the first time I'd smiled in 30 days," he said. "It was the first time gyms have been mentioned, and we were mentioned in phase one. I couldn’t wait to get the document and read it."

Source: Gyms are eager to reopen, but are they safe?

Trump Calls For Reopening America’s Gyms Day After Call With SoulCycle’s Owner

The decision on gyms came a day after Trump’s phone call with 16 business leaders including Bahram Akradi, chief executive of health club chain Life Time, and Stephen Ross, the founder and chairman of the Related Companies. That firm’s broad portfolio includes a vast swath of commercial and residential real estate properties, as well as Equinox Holdings, which owns its own eponymous chain of luxury gyms as well as fitness brands SoulCycle, Blink Fitness, and Pure Yoga.

[...]

The White House declined to comment on whether ideas presented by Ross informed its phase one guidelines. In an emailed statement, a Related spokesperson told The Daily Beast, “Stephen Ross never discussed gyms, exercise clubs or anything like that with the President and this story is factually incorrect garbage.”

Source: Trump Calls For Reopening America’s Gyms Day After Call With SoulCycle’s Owner
 

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Gyms are eager to reopen, but are they safe?
They were included in the first phase of President Donald Trump's guidelines for reopening the country.

In President Donald Trump's guidelines announced this week for reopening the country, gyms were included in the first phase, "if they adhere to strict physical distancing and sanitation protocols."

Crunch CEO Jim Rowley said the company gave money to the International Health, Racquet & Sportsclub Association to help with its efforts to lobby for the inclusion of gyms in phase one. Both Crunch and the association were surprised to learn gyms had actually been included when the guidelines were released.

"It was probably the first time I'd smiled in 30 days," he said. "It was the first time gyms have been mentioned, and we were mentioned in phase one. I couldn’t wait to get the document and read it."

Source: Gyms are eager to reopen, but are they safe?

Trump Calls For Reopening America’s Gyms Day After Call With SoulCycle’s Owner

The decision on gyms came a day after Trump’s phone call with 16 business leaders including Bahram Akradi, chief executive of health club chain Life Time, and Stephen Ross, the founder and chairman of the Related Companies. That firm’s broad portfolio includes a vast swath of commercial and residential real estate properties, as well as Equinox Holdings, which owns its own eponymous chain of luxury gyms as well as fitness brands SoulCycle, Blink Fitness, and Pure Yoga.

[...]

The White House declined to comment on whether ideas presented by Ross informed its phase one guidelines. In an emailed statement, a Related spokesperson told The Daily Beast, “Stephen Ross never discussed gyms, exercise clubs or anything like that with the President and this story is factually incorrect garbage.”

Source: Trump Calls For Reopening America’s Gyms Day After Call With SoulCycle’s Owner
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Give me a waiver bud! I'll sign. That's good news in a sea of garbage
 
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