Canadian Domestic: Pareto Pharmaceuticals 2020

[Test_Subject]

Was mission the rebrand of Boss back in the day? Pretty sure it was ahh nothing like ordering 10k in pharma gh and getting fed a story of how he lost it or got robbed and get sent 40 kits or neveauxtrop junk instead. The good ol days before I took a hiatus lol.

Yep.

 

[ParetoPharmaceuticals]

Been a Pareto customer for 3 - 4 years now and have got nothing but top notch service and results from their gear. Used to run mission gear and thought their gear was good until I got my first dose of Pareto lol. Made me think Mission was underdosed

tried test - e, test -c, tren ace, tren e, npp, deca, and eq

Thank you for the kinds words @ripper908

When will it be my turn for a broken hearted discount gonna go tell my fiance to make me sad for a primo hookup

Please reach out to me and we can discuss this further @CanadianJasonGenova

paretomeso@protonmail.com

 

[WCL]

Yep.

Mission trying to solve their issue of crumbly tablets turned out to be their downfall

 

[Test_Subject]

Mission trying to solve their issue of crumbly tablets turned out to be their downfall

Sure did. What kind of idiot buys an assembled pill press directly from the manufacturer?

 

[EazyE]

Sure did. What kind of idiot buys an assembled pill press directly from the manufacturer?

His girlfriend’s history didn’t help matters any either.

 

[Human_backhoe]

So I have been looking very hard to find my wife accurately dosed Lady Var. She is heading into contest prep soon. She is also a member on this board! Have been looking for lab reports from Canadian ugl's. Sadly not much out there.

I did find this in the old thread. I am not here to stir too much shit up but am now concerned.

This test, when pulled directly from the Jano website, showed the true results indicated overdosing of an oral compound by 25-50%, with a variance between tablets of more than 20%.

Great question. The motor on the advanced press is meant to be a 3 phase electric motor, but I had it converted into single phase. This was due to the lack of 3 phase power availability at the warehouse at the time. The result of this means we can not use the press as often as we would like due to risk of damaging the motor from the stress of running single phase. On top of this, I commissioned a specialized addition to help increase accuracy of tablet dosing. This part is prone to breaking, and creates a huge backlog when this occurs. As a result, this machine is only used for items such as clenbuterol, t3, viagra, cialis, etc.



Now that you have some background on the process, I will explain what I believe to have gone wrong with the Anavar result. Anavar is mostly done in the durable tablet press. The design of this press is a powder hopper, attached to a force feeder. When the powder hopper is nearly empty, the force feeder is able to spin freely and more easily push powder into the die. The result will be a heavier tablet- it will look darker, and be harder to break in half. This does not always happen, but can on occasion. This is the only logical reason for having a tablet variance close to 20%, as we employ pharmaceutical V- blenders for mixing of our tablet mix.

Now I understand people not being too pissed of at 20 percent overdosed Var as a male. For a female that is a fuck ton though!!!!! ) @ParetoPharma you stated the the larger press made 5mg and up. That puts Lady Var into that category. You explanation on how you fixed this is not good enough in my opinion for the women.

As for the more accurate press. Single phase to 3 phase inverters (variable frequency drives) are $100 max online. Hell I have at least 10 sitting around and they are so low cost I don't give a shit.

@ParetoPharma
Do you have updated testing available for Var specifically lady var? For us guys it's not huge, but I can tell you I would be fucking pissed if my wife grew facial hair! You say the problem is solved and it might be. Do you have confirmation of this? Is your process re verified? ( I work in the automation industry, pharmaceutical too)

Also is your smaller press sorted out? Heck if I have the right size and you are on hard times let me know and I will give it to you.

The second thread thing make it hard to search past testing and results. If it wasn't for specific key word searches I wouldn't have found this.

Also will you start making Var for women on the better press? More and more women are using PED's and they deserve some level of safety. They are using the board's to purchase but are not usually as active as us!

I'm not trying to stir old shit up for the guys......but the problem has never been solved as the women go in my opinion.

 

[Test_Subject]

So I have been looking very hard to find my wife accurately dosed Lady Var. She is heading into contest prep soon. She is also a member on this board! Have been looking for lab reports from Canadian ugl's. Sadly not much out there.

I did find this in the old thread. I am not here to stir too much shit up but am now concerned.

This test, when pulled directly from the Jano website, showed the true results indicated overdosing of an oral compound by 25-50%, with a variance between tablets of more than 20%.



Now I understand people not being too pissed of at 20 percent overdosed Var as a male. For a female that is a fuck ton though!!!!! ) @ParetoPharma you stated the the larger press made 5mg and up. That puts Lady Var into that category. You explanation on how you fixed this is not good enough in my opinion for the women.

As for the more accurate press. Single phase to 3 phase inverters (variable frequency drives) are $100 max online. Hell I have at least 10 sitting around and they are so low cost I don't give a shit.

@ParetoPharma
Do you have updated testing available for Var specifically lady var? For us guys it's not huge, but I can tell you I would be fucking pissed if my wife grew facial hair! You say the problem is solved and it might be. Do you have confirmation of this? Is your process re verified? ( I work in the automation industry, pharmaceutical too)

Also is your smaller press sorted out? Heck if I have the right size and you are on hard times let me know and I will give it to you.

The second thread thing make it hard to search past testing and results. If it wasn't for specific key word searches I wouldn't have found this.

Also will you start making Var for women on the better press? More and more women are using PED's and they deserve some level of safety. They are using the board's to purchase but are not usually as active as us!

I'm not trying to stir old shit up for the guys......but the problem has never been solved as the women go in my opinion.

If I were a woman, I'd cap my own from raws, honestly. You can buy a scale that will measure out 5mg accurately fairly cheaply and var raws are easy to come by.

It's a bit of a pain in the ass, but at least you know what you're getting that way and won't end up going bald or growing a clit the size of a baseball.

 

[MadBret]

Why is there 2 threads? I thought that was frowned upon?

 

[Human_backhoe]

If I were a woman, I'd cap my own from raws, honestly. You can buy a scale that will measure out 5mg accurately fairly cheaply and var raws are easy to come by.

It's a bit of a pain in the ass, but at least you know what you're getting that way and won't end up going bald or growing a clit the size of a baseball.

Lol I agree completely. Gonna take a while yet for us to finish our house. I'm sure she would kill me if I started home brewing right now!

 

[Human_backhoe]

Why is there 2 threads? I thought that was frowned upon?

If I hadn't run a specific search I never would have seen it. I left elsewhere's last October and switched to Meso only as this was happening..... Even I missed it.

 

[MadBret]

So this is pretty much the most successful lab in Canada, no? I just read that you guys can't really get bloods done up there either. Does Pareto not do regular testing through jano or whoever to verify what they are selling or am I missing something? They would be doing a service to the community up there if they did choose to do regular testing, not to mention I'm sure it wouldn't hurt business either.

 

[WCL]

So this is pretty much the most successful lab in Canada, no? I just read that you guys can't really get bloods done up there either. Does Pareto not do regular testing through jano or whoever to verify what they are selling or am I missing something? They would be doing a service to the community up there if they did choose to do regular testing, not to mention I'm sure it wouldn't hurt business either.

It’s easy to get blood work done, it’s been posted tons in all Canadian lab threads. Did you look before you posted?

Pareto has been on Meso for close to six years, with countless janoshik tests. Why don’t you do some reading instead of asking information to be spoon fed to you?

There’s a reason the only major complaint Pareto has ever had is overdosed Anavar. Canada is a lot more advanced than the USA when it comes to UGLs, for a variety of obvious reasons.

 

[WCL]

So I have been looking very hard to find my wife accurately dosed Lady Var. She is heading into contest prep soon. She is also a member on this board! Have been looking for lab reports from Canadian ugl's. Sadly not much out there.

I did find this in the old thread. I am not here to stir too much shit up but am now concerned.

This test, when pulled directly from the Jano website, showed the true results indicated overdosing of an oral compound by 25-50%, with a variance between tablets of more than 20%.



Now I understand people not being too pissed of at 20 percent overdosed Var as a male. For a female that is a fuck ton though!!!!! ) @ParetoPharma you stated the the larger press made 5mg and up. That puts Lady Var into that category. You explanation on how you fixed this is not good enough in my opinion for the women.

As for the more accurate press. Single phase to 3 phase inverters (variable frequency drives) are $100 max online. Hell I have at least 10 sitting around and they are so low cost I don't give a shit.

@ParetoPharma
Do you have updated testing available for Var specifically lady var? For us guys it's not huge, but I can tell you I would be fucking pissed if my wife grew facial hair! You say the problem is solved and it might be. Do you have confirmation of this? Is your process re verified? ( I work in the automation industry, pharmaceutical too)

Also is your smaller press sorted out? Heck if I have the right size and you are on hard times let me know and I will give it to you.

The second thread thing make it hard to search past testing and results. If it wasn't for specific key word searches I wouldn't have found this.

Also will you start making Var for women on the better press? More and more women are using PED's and they deserve some level of safety. They are using the board's to purchase but are not usually as active as us!

I'm not trying to stir old shit up for the guys......but the problem has never been solved as the women go in my opinion.

Just playing devils advocate here... if a 5mg tablet is overdosed by 20%- you do realize it’s now still only 6mg, right?

 

[Human_backhoe]

Just playing devils advocate here... if a 5mg tablet is overdosed by 20%- you do realize it’s now still only 6mg, right?

20 percent was between tablet to tablet. Maybe you missed it but some was overdosed by 50 percent. Now when in prep the regular dosages tend to be a bit higher.....

 

[Test_Subject]

It’s easy to get blood work done...

I wouldn't say that it's "easy." That depends entirely on your doctor and how "on board" they are.

You can't just walk into a Lifelabs and buy a test. In most of the US you can. Yes, you can get them done in Canada, but you have to get a bit creative.

 

[Silentlemon1011]

It’s easy to get blood work done, it’s been posted tons in all Canadian lab threads. Did you look before you posted?

Pareto has been on Meso for close to six years, with countless janoshik tests. Why don’t you do some reading instead of asking information to be spoon fed to you?

There’s a reason the only major complaint Pareto has ever had is overdosed Anavar. Canada is a lot more advanced than the USA when it comes to UGLs, for a variety of obvious reasons.

I dont think we are "More advanced" TBH

We have no proof of anything really.
For example, lab setup pics... no Canadisn UGL has them.
American labs in Meso MUST post them.

If we are bring 100% honest, we have no IDEA if they're more advanced.

They're just sround for longer because of less pressure from LE

 

[Test_Subject]

They're just sround for longer because of less pressure from LE

Pretty much this.

Canadian LE only goes after the heatbag, low hanging fruit sources. They're not overly concerned with schedule IV drugs because possession of them isn't even illegal. As long as the source isn't doing anything overtly retarded (like buying a pill press straight from the manufacturer or shacking up with a meth head who is up on murder charges) they're not in much danger from the RCMP or provincial police.

The CRA is more of a threat to sources in Canada than law enforcement is.

 

[Silentlemon1011]

Pretty much this.

Canadian LE only goes after the heatbag, low hanging fruit sources. They're not overly concerned with schedule IV drugs because possession of them isn't even illegal. As long as the source isn't doing anything overtly retarded (like buying a pill press straight from the manufacturer or shacking up with a meth head who is up on murder charges) they're not in much danger from the RCMP or provincial police.

The CRA is more of a threat to sources in Canada than law enforcement is.

Agreed
You'll notice that almost all of the Canadian UGL busts also had rec drugs found.

Cops love gear up here and wont fuxk with you until you play with recs

 

[MadBret]

It’s easy to get blood work done, it’s been posted tons in all Canadian lab threads. Did you look before you posted?

Pareto has been on Meso for close to six years, with countless janoshik tests. Why don’t you do some reading instead of asking information to be spoon fed to you?

There’s a reason the only major complaint Pareto has ever had is overdosed Anavar. Canada is a lot more advanced than the USA when it comes to UGLs, for a variety of obvious reasons.

Fair enough. I don't spend much time in the Canadian threads and just happened upon this one this morning.

So, since you aren't in to spoon feeding me, I went ahead and typed in pareto and janoshik into the search bar. Third result from the top showed Pareto has test results done by Janoshik that he chose to edit before posting up. That seems a bit worse than your claim of their only major problem having been overdosed anavar.

Also, upon further reading, I see you are one of Pareto's main cheerleaders. Yay team!

What @Human_backhoe brought up about lady var should be addressed. 50% overdosed gear is kind of absurd, also. I mean, cool, at least you aren't getting ripped off but you would think with how much more advanced your Canadian Labs are than us hillbilly's south of you with our fly by night bathtub brews, that getting accurately dosed products wouldn't be too much to ask.

Anyway, I'm busy researching, chief. You don't have to worry about spoon feeding me.

Canadian Domestic: Pareto Pharmaceuticals 2017

 

[MadBret]

Just playing devils advocate here... if a 5mg tablet is overdosed by 20%- you do realize it’s now still only 6mg, right?

And you realize if it's 50% overdosed, it will be 7.5mg, right?