Canadian Domestic: Pareto Pharmaceuticals 2020

Wet or dry granulation?
Well if they are running multiple rotary presses with huge v-mixers already I don't think it would be that much of an issue to buy a wet granulator.

It ensures homogeneous mixture of the API to the binder, so when you split your 20mg var you don't end up with 1mg on one side of the tablet and 19mg on the other. Even v-mixers can create "hot spots"

Mission tried this in the past to overcome their soft tablet issue. I believe it lasted one or two batches before they scrapped the idea.

These ideas are good on paper, until you realize it increases production time exponentially, and introduces more ways for the operators to make errors.



Basically, what Pareto said above is as good as you're going to get from a UGL. If they had all the bells and whistles, they might as well apply to start producing generic drugs for worldwide sale.
 
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This is why labs don't bother to talk to the common consumer about their process. You saying that wet granulation isn't much different than powder blending using a V blender is a shining example of this.

While we are on the topic of upgrades, they should using enteric coating, and sell the tablets in blister packs as well. Surely it's no hassle- and it'll impress the bro scientists at MESO.

Here is what you are suggesting, if you didn't know. None of these steps are required for simple powder blending

Where did I say it wasn't much different? I simply stated if they can put all that money out to buy the equipment, why not take it one step further.
 
Where did I say it wasn't much different? I simply stated if they can put all that money out to buy the equipment, why not take it one step further.
Because it’s not “one step further”, it’s an entirely new production arm. Did you even watch the video I posted?

I’m not going to waste my time spoon feeding and arguing with you, I suggest you educate yourself on the topic before making further comments.
 
Because it’s not “one step further”, it’s an entirely new production arm. Did you even watch the video I posted?

I’m not going to waste my time spoon feeding and arguing with you, I suggest you educate yourself on the topic before making further comments.
My bad sorry I didn't write. "Take it to the next level."
 
My bad sorry I didn't write. "Take it to the next level."

Yeah wet granulation is pharma companies not UGL's, I'm sure some UGL's have some very, very impressive labs but looking at UpNorth's video I'd probably say you're full of shit if they said they had a full wet granulation setup running for their tablets.

I am curious how UGL's accurately dose T3 and clen etc without wet granulation though.
 
To answer your questions about Female Anavar.

Because it is made for women, it will be dosed spot on as per procedure. It can also be made on either machine, as dosing a 5mg tablet can easily be accomplished using either one. That choice depends on the production queue.

I see one user is commenting about the machine being three phase vs single phase and how it might affect the tablets. The issue has to due with the motor overheating, as well as the machine being prone to time consuming maintenance. If you have any more questions, I would invite you to e-mail me as well.

If you want to know if your tablets are the correct dose, and you don't want to send it for testing? Weigh them. The tablets should be of a uniform weight, of which I can discuss the exact weight given the type of tablet you have.
Once again, you are free to e-mail me for any technical assistance you may need.

In all honestly, I feel like I have covered this issue in it's entirety. A simple e-mail could have sufficed as I do check that every single day.


Despite the bullshit. I have nothing against your lab!

We have a lot of female lurkers here as well as, personally my wife competes.

It was a public issue and in my opinion remains so. I don't order from the same email connected to my public handle :D

Only 2 questions.

Have you resolved the 3 phase motor running single phase? As a electrician and automation engineer, I know the consequences of this. Feel free to PM me a picture of the motor name plate and if I have one in stock I will ship it to you!!!

Once you made the "change " did you verify that is was successful? In industry, every change must be verified. It is a standard practice.

I understand we used to have to trust raw suppliers at there word. This is not long the case.

95 percent of what you do might be spot on. As a male I don't give a flying fuck about a few mg over. It's just more bang for the buck! Females and Aas are very different.
 
Despite the bullshit. I have nothing against your lab!

We have a lot of female lurkers here as well as, personally my wife competes.

It was a public issue and in my opinion remains so. I don't order from the same email connected to my public handle :D

Only 2 questions.

Have you resolved the 3 phase motor running single phase? As a electrician and automation engineer, I know the consequences of this. Feel free to PM me a picture of the motor name plate and if I have one in stock I will ship it to you!!!

Once you made the "change " did you verify that is was successful? In industry, every change must be verified. It is a standard practice.

I understand we used to have to trust raw suppliers at there word. This is not long the case.

95 percent of what you do might be spot on. As a male I don't give a flying fuck about a few mg over. It's just more bang for the buck! Females and Aas are very different.

I think we can all agree a lab like this probably doesn't want to be receiving gifted packages to an address they provide drop or not lol he'd rather buy whatever you recommend no matter how nice the gesture is. I think he said earlier weigh the pills with a mg scale to see if they are consistent? He was pretty open book with me when I did the FTIR testing and took time to write me an informative essay.

If I was a lab mail only goes one way no ifs and or buts.
 
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I think we can all agree a lab like this probably doesn't want to be receiving gifted packages to an address they provide drop or not lol he'd rather buy whatever you recommend no matter how nice the gesture is. I think he said earlier weigh the pills with a mg scale to see if they are consistent? He was pretty open book with me when I did the FTIR testing and took time to write me an informative essay.

If I was a lab mail only goes one way no ifs and or buts.

He was definitely just having a bit of fun.

Obviously not a good idea to mail a motor for a drug mixing machine to an Underground Lab lol
 
Where did I say it wasn't much different? I simply stated if they can put all that money out to buy the equipment, why not take it one step further.

What you’re suggesting is totally apples and oranges man. Wet granulation, even dry granulation, is far above the scope of any UGL. I wouldn’t trust a UGL to even execute the process properly, even if the cost wasn’t prohibitive.

Its also why you should try to get pharmacy grade clenbuterol or t3, or at least liquid clenbuterol
 
This is why labs don't bother to talk to the common consumer about their process. You saying that wet granulation isn't much different than powder blending using a V blender is a shining example of this.

While we are on the topic of upgrades, they should using enteric coating, and sell the tablets in blister packs as well. Surely it's no hassle- and it'll impress the bro scientists at MESO.

Here is what you are suggesting, if you didn't know. None of these steps are required for simple powder blending



Looks easy enough
 
Anyone have experience with pareto nolva? I've used their test, tbol, and anavar which were good, so I am assuming their nolva is as well. But if anyone has experience, that would be great.
thanks
 
Hello Meso,

We have some new items set to hit the shelf in the next few weeks and I will alert everyone once they are ready to ship.

MENT 50mg/ml, 10ml
Finasteride 60 tablets x 1.25mg
Ironman (25mg Viagra, 15mg priligy) 100 tablets x 40mg
Daily Cialis 50 tablets x 5mg

If you require a price list, or have any questions, please feel free to email us anytime.
paretomeso@protonmail.com

Wishing you all a very happy thanksgiving from the team here at Pareto!
 
Don't use UGLs for your ancillaries man.
Yeah, I agree with this in principle, however my source who used to hook me up with pharmaceutical nolva has left the country for good, so I no longer have that option. Have about 20 doses of 20mg apotex nolva left, will need to supplement some with ugl sadly. Since I've had good experience with other pareto products, I'm hoping their nolva is legit as well.
 
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