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I just hit my first pin of Test E ever. 125mg E3.5D , taper up if required. I have 3 other friends running only 300-400 mgs and they are getting insane gains.

The pharmacies here around me are fucking shit. No other gauges available, really? Like what is someone that needs a crazy important med supposed to do besides waiting for an online delivery!?

Anyways, Not only did the pharmacist have only a 25g 1inch, the bitch actually gave me 2 of the above and one 25g 5/8 inch!

Now I used one of the 1 inches to draw (took about 2-3 minutes, not that bad) and when I finally heated the oil pre injection , I find out when I am trying to aspirate that the fucking needle here is a 5/8th!

The option now was to aspirate again, wasting the amount already in the needle, and waste all 3 needles in one pin. So I decided to shoot the mid outer quad (relatively muscular and lean there) since I felt the 5/8th could easily hit Intramuscular at that point.

There was the slightest amount of hesitation ever, like maybe a fraction of a second but I just straight injected, no pain in insertion or anything. The plunger pushed in quite slow, but not an issue.

Did make sure to check for blood/vein with a draw, nothing happened at that point, however I DID notice an air bubble being formed because of pulling the plunger. Did I pull too hard?

Anyways no PIP or anything, cleaned area with an alcohol swab before and after and put on a band aid just because I had one lying in front of me.

How soon can I notice ANY effects? And not just gains wise, I mean mental, mood etc etc?
 
I just hit my first pin of Test E ever. 125mg E3.5D , taper up if required. I have 3 other friends running only 300-400 mgs and they are getting insane gains.

The pharmacies here around me are fucking shit. No other gauges available, really? Like what is someone that needs a crazy important med supposed to do besides waiting for an online delivery!?

Anyways, Not only did the pharmacist have only a 25g 1inch, the bitch actually gave me 2 of the above and one 25g 5/8 inch!

Now I used one of the 1 inches to draw (took about 2-3 minutes, not that bad) and when I finally heated the oil pre injection , I find out when I am trying to aspirate that the fucking needle here is a 5/8th!

The option now was to aspirate again, wasting the amount already in the needle, and waste all 3 needles in one pin. So I decided to shoot the mid outer quad (relatively muscular and lean there) since I felt the 5/8th could easily hit Intramuscular at that point.

There was the slightest amount of hesitation ever, like maybe a fraction of a second but I just straight injected, no pain in insertion or anything. The plunger pushed in quite slow, but not an issue.

Did make sure to check for blood/vein with a draw, nothing happened at that point, however I DID notice an air bubble being formed because of pulling the plunger. Did I pull too hard?

Anyways no PIP or anything, cleaned area with an alcohol swab before and after and put on a band aid just because I had one lying in front of me.

How soon can I notice ANY effects? And not just gains wise, I mean mental, mood etc etc?
You started a cycle (TRT dose) and you only had three pins on hand? Wtf ?
 
didn't want to take the advice of having everything on hand before starting.
now he has to face the added CORTISOL rise in addition...
 
@czechboy you definitely don't appear mature enough to be running AAS. Obviously the more intelligent idea would have been to wait until you had all your supplies.

There are plenty of videos you can watch on YouTube on how to administer an IM injection. They will help improve your technique.

Test E typically takes 3-4 weeks at minimum to kick in. 250 mg of Test a week is slightly above a TRT dose so unless you had low T prior to starting your cycle you probably won't "feel" much at that dosage.

Seeing as you're a first timer hopefully you are getting mid cycle blood work and have your ancillaries on hand.
 
You'll feel the recovery aspect of testosterone within a week.

Strength should go up a bit within a couple of weeks.

To notice any size gains will depend on how lean you are but generally 4-6 weeks you'll start to look bigger.

To really blow up takes much longer though. Which is why guys run orals.
 
So I know a lot of people run AAS when they are not ready for it or are undereducated/not knowledgeable enough and that most forums like to bash on these kids so they can later say "See I told ya so!".
If that's how this is going to go I'd much rather just log by myself and keep the results to myself instead of sharing experiences.

However I will still answer some of the comments made in relation to my post.

You started a cycle (TRT dose) and you only had three pins on hand? Wtf ?

3 syringes/needles on hand yes. Read further below for the details.

And since when is 250-300 mg a week TRT dose?


didn't want to take the advice of having everything on hand before starting.
now he has to face the added CORTISOL rise in addition...

Please elaborate.

@czechboy you definitely don't appear mature enough to be running AAS. Obviously the more intelligent idea would have been to wait until you had all your supplies.

There are plenty of videos you can watch on YouTube on how to administer an IM injection. They will help improve your technique.

Test E typically takes 3-4 weeks at minimum to kick in. 250 mg of Test a week is slightly above a TRT dose so unless you had low T prior to starting your cycle you probably won't "feel" much at that dosage.

Seeing as you're a first timer hopefully you are getting mid cycle blood work and have your ancillaries on hand.

I understand where you're coming from, but the last thing I needed to get 'ready' was the syringes and needles, which I left till the last minute because I felt it was understood that the pharmacies HAVE to have them, I mean why wouldn't they? Are people not just generally using needles and syringes of different sizes? It's legal so why should it be a problem? I am new to CA so I guess I didn't think the pharmacies here would be so reckless.

I read through Vita's posts about the syringes and the only things for me in there are :-

1) The 21g (or bigger) gauge needle for drawing.
2) The pinning needle, which is EXACTLY the same as what I got from my pharmacy. 25g 1 inch.

My whole conundrum was about whether it's possible to draw from a 25g or not and also whether a 1 inch was enough for glutes. I knew 25g is enough for pinning other body parts.

I was contemplating waiting for the online delivery except that ordering both of those would cost me 78$ incl shipping for the exact same pinning needle and syringe! For the prices I can pick up the 25g 1 inches from Shoppers I could get them for about 33.6 CAD for the entire duration of my cycle. Maybe less if I ask for a whole box of 50 or so.

I shot the thigh because it's what most people suggest to be the hardest and to get it out of the way. I also didn't go for the glutes before reading up further, but upon reading I figure a 1 inch is enough for the glutes as well.

I have Letro, Arimidex, Aromasin Nolva and Clomid on hand all from previous SARM cycle preparations I kept everything on hand just in case.

I will TRY to get mid cycle bloods, the main bloods I have planned for now are immediately post cycle and a few months after PCT. If there is some valuable knowledge I could gain from mid cycle bloods do let me know and I will consider them. I have done multiple tests in and around my SARM cycles though so I do have an idea on what to expect and what my baseline levels are/have been.
 
So I know a lot of people run AAS when they are not ready for it or are undereducated/not knowledgeable enough and that most forums like to bash on these kids so they can later say "See I told ya so!".
If that's how this is going to go I'd much rather just log by myself and keep the results to myself instead of sharing experiences.

I will TRY to get mid cycle bloods, the main bloods I have planned for now are immediately post cycle and a few months after PCT. If there is some valuable knowledge I could gain from mid cycle bloods do let me know and I will consider them. I have done multiple tests in and around my SARM cycles though so I do have an idea on what to expect and what my baseline levels are/have been.


No need to get sensitive, we're not attacking you.

There are TRT clinics in Canada that prescribe as high as 200mg's of Test a week.

At 250mg - 300mg's of Test E a week you will experience "some" added benefits. But if you're T levels are already healthy, the changes will feel insignificant.

You should always get mid-cycle bloods. Most importantly to see if what you're taking is real and how it's affecting your health.
 
Hey for anyone that takes glutamine when do you guys take? Right now I just do 5grams post workout I heard that’s not enough! Any feedback greatly appreciated
 
@Riz : do you think taking midcycle blood work is advisable for health/life insurance? wouldn't want them to deny me in the future when they see that my test levels are 1500++ assuming that I am on something and with blood tests to back it up

@czechboy rushing and anger that you don't have pins and going out of the way to find a few pins at a time. itd probably give me anger and anxiety making cortisol go through the roof.
the ones that vita linked are in boxes of 100... it's not the same as going to a pharmacy and getting pins as you go, it's probably a lot cheaper... i'd go 1.5inch instead for injecting in case you need a glute shot to make sure you are IM. I feel that 1inch might be too small. Maybe I am just a fat ass... xD
 
@Riz : do you think taking midcycle blood work is advisable for health/life insurance? wouldn't want them to deny me in the future when they see that my test levels are 1500++ assuming that I am on something and with blood tests to back it up

Here is a brief read concerning medical records: Who can access your health records? - Legal Line

Your medical records cannot be disclosed to a third party unless you approve it or LE has a court order. Period.

If you're seeking health insurance privately then I suppose it's possible they could ask by way of questionnaire, but going further than that I'd say is uncommon.

If applying or receiving extended insurance coverage through work they will more than likely not ask your doctor for any information when you sign up, and I don’t think they can even turn you down for a pre-existing condition if it is employer health benefits.

For life insurance purposes they would have to prove that AAS use was the cause of death and that is determine by an autopsy not medical records.

I guess at the end of the day it all comes down to the fine print of your insurance provider.

I've submitted claims to Desjardins and Manulife and never once have I had any issues.

This is strictly just my thought on the topic, perhaps other can share some input.
 
Here is a brief read concerning medical records: Who can access your health records? - Legal Line

Your medical records cannot be disclosed to a third party unless you approve it or LE has a court order. Period.

If you're seeking health insurance privately then I suppose it's possible they could ask by way of questionnaire, but going further than that I'd say is uncommon.

If applying or receiving extended insurance coverage through work they will more than likely not ask your doctor for any information when you sign up, and I don’t think they can even turn you down for a pre-existing condition if it is employer health benefits.

For life insurance purposes they would have to prove that AAS use was the cause of death and that is determine by an autopsy not medical records.

I guess at the end of the day it all comes down to the fine print of your insurance provider.

I've submitted claims to Desjardins and Manulife and never once have I had any issues.

This is strictly just my thought on the topic, perhaps other can share some input.
And never disclose your AAS use to anyone. That’s the golden rule...deny, deny, deny....
 
A CC of test250 per week is fucking literally almost nothing. Maybe 1.5x high natty levels.

If you need to switch needles to do that tiny amount of gear once per week you might be retarded. 25ga draws just fine, it just takes a little longer.

C'mon guys this isn't rocket science.
 
A CC of test250 per week is fucking literally almost nothing. Maybe 1.5x high natty levels.

If you need to switch needles to do that tiny amount of gear once per week you might be retarded. 25ga draws just fine, it just takes a little longer.

C'mon guys this isn't rocket science.
Pinning with the same pin u used to draw is retarded. As soon as it pierces the rubber stopper the tip is dull. Not saying u can't pin with it but way better to switch to a fresh pin
 
Pinning with the same pin u used to draw is retarded. As soon as it pierces the rubber stopper the tip is dull. Not saying u can't pin with it but way better to switch to a fresh pin

It's not like he's pulling 3ccs a day here from multiple vials...

When pulling peptides with a slin pin I might pull from 4 different vials. Those tips are non changeable, barely noticeable difference vs fresh.
 
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