In this other one it says 38 year old man.
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
Then you should understand that they monitored him since June 2023.
Collected evidence since February 2023.
What's weird is Liska was last seen online 8th december, but the drug bust happened 14th december. I wonder if he knew something was coming...
Also they monitored him since february 2023 and noted over 700 parcels sent, that's only a fraction of what the store has sold. If they trace back from the opening until now i think the sentence will be much much longer...
Also they monitored him since february 2023 and noted over 700 parcels sent, that's only a fraction of what the store has sold. If they trace back from the opening until now i think the sentence will be much much longer...
HB_22
Well-known Member
Correct.
Night_Owl
Well-known Member
I was looking back at the posts from February and January and found this post below from January. Maybe this is what eventually let them to collecting evidence the next month.
I know those those Northern European countries don't mess around with steroids. They might have told Germany about this package:
I know those those Northern European countries don't mess around with steroids. They might have told Germany about this package:
Liska never put his information on the packages, so i doubt this led to the bust
Sadly good OPSEC only prolongs the time it takes for the authorities to bust you, and anytime there’s a in-person component (handling and shipping physical products being the case here) to your operation, the risk of you getting caught goes up, exponentially.
I wasted far too much time in various corners of the internet I shouldn’t have whilst growing up and almost everyone I knew who was making a decent amount of money from their illicit activities was caught, and the OPSEC and tech literacy of some of these people was leagues above any PED source I’ve come across. At the end of the day it’s just a matter of when, not if.
I wasted far too much time in various corners of the internet I shouldn’t have whilst growing up and almost everyone I knew who was making a decent amount of money from their illicit activities was caught, and the OPSEC and tech literacy of some of these people was leagues above any PED source I’ve come across. At the end of the day it’s just a matter of when, not if.
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krugerrand19
Member
That's really sad.
I hope he's ok.
I hope he's ok.
They’re two completely separate operations just sharing a brand name.
CCUSA
Subscriber
Completely separate.
HB_22
Well-known Member
I don't think CCUSA or their customers will be affected in any way by this (in terms of legal consequences). But it's sad that this happened.
Pinnacle Elements
Member
I always appreciate @pigeonhed input. You have the gift of articulation.
Agreed on @Spaceman Spiff - seems like a knowledge dude who contributes beneficially to the forum.
Pinnacle Elements
Member
Bro chill. They’re not going to sift through data that (should be) encrypted to go after 1000’s of personal users.
Juice ain’t worth the squeeze
Just goes to show that regardless of how careful one is with OPSEC if LE wants you they will get you……PERIOD
Thank you, man.
And good luck with all these
I know guys who were caught with personal amounts and such.
I will do everything I can in order to protect myself even if there is only a small possibility of consequences.
I don't want to regret about this later saying "why this happens to me?" If there was a tiny chance. You may say that I'm overreacting, but I'm just being realistic
It mostly comes down to real life OPSEC though. In Germany it isn't possible to send something tracked without giving out some info or being filmed on camera.
You can buy faked shipping labels but that's just waiting for trouble too. If i remember correctly, ShinyFlakes got busted because he used faked shipping labels (paid with stolen credit card info) and also sometimes paid not enough postage.
The orders without enough postage got rejected, sent back to his fake return address (some real person), the person who received the drug package informed police and then investigation started.
I wouldn't be surprised if the seized Denmark package started the investigation.
This is also the reason why drugs are shipped 98% untracked on darknet markets. Worked for drugs since early Silkroad, not sure why the steroid scene is so obsessed with getting tracking info for every order. It's one of the biggest OPSEC risks for vendors.
No it's not one seized package that set this off or Nordic countries alerting German police, because this same thing happened in 2022 and Liska stopped shipping to Scandinavia altogether, only to restart again a month later because it was a random seizure like this one. Nothing to be paranoid about.
The article says they have been tracing 700 packages sent from February 2023 - June 2023 (5 months). His minimum order amount is 300 €, let's say most clients buy for anything between 300€ - 600€ per order, some even higher, but alone that is 210.000 € - 420.000€ in that period, which translates to 42.000€ - 84.000€ per month. What made him get caught I think is the SIZE his operation grew into and it couldn't just fly under the radar anymore.
By the way, Liska was acquiring some high-quality German pharmacy products towards the end, including the Increlex, i think this point is more defining in raising red flags as this investigation was local, not from outside.
The article says they have been tracing 700 packages sent from February 2023 - June 2023 (5 months). His minimum order amount is 300 €, let's say most clients buy for anything between 300€ - 600€ per order, some even higher, but alone that is 210.000 € - 420.000€ in that period, which translates to 42.000€ - 84.000€ per month. What made him get caught I think is the SIZE his operation grew into and it couldn't just fly under the radar anymore.
By the way, Liska was acquiring some high-quality German pharmacy products towards the end, including the Increlex, i think this point is more defining in raising red flags as this investigation was local, not from outside.
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