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Caution fellas.
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TheHamburglar
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Regardless of what your opinion of LE is we need to have that healthy respect that their resources are far and wide and their pockets are nearly endless. Online they don't need surveillance vehicles, warrants, or snitches. We post everything necessary for probable cause and the few IT guys find all our info while they drink their morning coffee.
My activities with whatever knowledge and information I acquire from this board (and a few others) may be illegal, I do not broadcast it, I do not inform others of who I may have done business with, and I do not post pictures and logs of said activities. It is not that I believe this makes me untouchable or because I'm scare, but because I don't want to rub LE's nose in it.
I offer whatever help I can and do my best to remain a productive member of the board even though I'm new. I will delve deeper through PM but even then I try to be cautious with the info I reveal.
In short what I'm trying to say is we shouldn't be teasing the dog behind the fence because one day that fence may be open and we might be face to face with that same dog.
My activities with whatever knowledge and information I acquire from this board (and a few others) may be illegal, I do not broadcast it, I do not inform others of who I may have done business with, and I do not post pictures and logs of said activities. It is not that I believe this makes me untouchable or because I'm scare, but because I don't want to rub LE's nose in it.
I offer whatever help I can and do my best to remain a productive member of the board even though I'm new. I will delve deeper through PM but even then I try to be cautious with the info I reveal.
In short what I'm trying to say is we shouldn't be teasing the dog behind the fence because one day that fence may be open and we might be face to face with that same dog.
Pericles
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Ben, I agree 100%. If LE gets wind of what we do here you can be sure they will rapidly be developing inroads.
I think we need to start limiting information that we post for public view.
I think we need to start limiting information that we post for public view.
IMO, this forum has taken on a life of its own. I'm giving a bit of a play by play. You don't see any other old timers that were here in the formative stages. Big K is on Sabbatical....but he would know there's nothing to be done. Mugzy would by a ticket if he wanted to see the circus. POB and regular have a board to run. Etc
Like I said, the brakes will be pumped.....but by force. The posts by some members laughing after I made a thread are bystanders or possibly members that have ordered and think nothing will happen to them. For the most part they're right. Odds are it will be the next guy.
Because of the money to be made the circus won't end on its own.
The reason so many UGL's have shitty gear is because they have access to the same hit or miss raw sources as everyone else? The guys behind these new labs either have a little more AMBITION than most and figure it can't be hard or this is their 2nd to 5th attempt at this. It's ridiculous.
I think you're underestimating LE if you don't think they already know what's going on. Public source boards. Private source boards. I guarantee you they are already there. They know.
Members should think of all the hoops - unfortunately, really not that many - that they've jumped through to be accepted to private source boards. Now how difficult would it be for a knowledgeable member of LE to do the same? The barriers to gaining entry to this little subculture are extremely low.
A significant percentage of LE are AAS users. They are already active participants in this subculture. They know the internet sourcing game inside and out. How hard would it be for a few of them to parlay their knowledge and experience into advancing their careers?
Many steroid-using cops tip off their sources. And a few of them have been busted, fired and jailed as a result. But many of them wouldn't have any problem busting their source if it benefits them. It's certainly a better alternative than being branded as the dirty cop guilty of corruption and participation in drug distribution.
What is saving most people is that they are only users. LE still hasn't targeted end-users on a large scale. What is saving most domestic UGL sources is the fact that there are so many of them.
How many UGLs were in operation before ORD? A hundred? A few hundred? Judging by the extremely low prices of AAS today, either the demand for black market AAS is non-existent or the number (supply) of UGLs has skyrocketed. I'm guessing the latter. Now there are probably thousands.
It is a question of who to target for LE. I think small scale busts are too common. They no longer gain headlines or lead to promotions. Now they want big-time busts of large UGLs and large international sources. That's where the glory is for LE.
Stretch
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And yet, a few months ago, when payment information regarding HCR was posted, I reported it, and it was quickly removed.
Recently, payment information regarding biologicpharma was posted, I reported it, and yet there it remains.
Why?
MESO isn't going to be in the business on managing sources' customers and/or otherwise protecting sources. That's why.
Pericles
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What makes this forum unique and valuable is that it is almost totally unregulated.
That is also what makes it a danger to personal freedom. IMO, we should develop safety measures of our own, and adhere to them. IMO, an established UGL should think about going private. The one I am thinking about should be 100% successful via word of mouth.
smiles
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Dam all of you guys have mad dam good points, the sad thing is it is the hard truth... I have seen what happens when you get sloppy on the streets, but I know it's the same way but, like th said everything is all layed on the table like bufett, also like m said it is up to the costers to watch what they say on the open bored and the sources to watch who they deal with.... I'm not gonna get all perinoid and start peaking throw my windows, or anything, but I am gonna keep all in mind and stuff it in my tool box for years to come....
True, but when some FNG posts stupid shit like he did then it should be removed. IMO.
Stretch
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My 'why' question pertained more to the apparent change in how Meso decided to handle two separate, but extremely similar, circumstances.
They should have been treated similarly. But moderation changed after a clarification of the following rule:
(4) Absolutely no unauthorized posting of identifying information about any MESO-Rx member e.g. no phone numbers, no names, no addresses, etc.
The rule was intended to apply in the case of the protecting free speech of members and not on side of protecting businesses of sources.
For example, if a member speaks out against a bad source and that source retaliates by posting personal information, this is prohibited. Protecting anonymity in this case facilitates free speech; protecting anonymity in the case of a source does more to facilitate steroid distribution than free speech.
loveyourbody
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BB69- right though... I'm going to be honest and go ahead and say it. It's just so easy to get that we forget how much trouble we can get in if we get caught. I've ordered a great amount of time online. But, have only had trouble 2x I got paranoid as fuck. I haven't had any trouble in 2 years and just for get that juice isn't something you buy at Walmart you can go to prison for a few years.
Like he said use caution!
Like he said use caution!
Mckenna2006
New Member
Great post! I consider myself lucky only had one little scare. Since 2005 I have had shit I can't even count the international orders but it way up there and funny that the one mishap was domestic. I have never had a seizure letter nor an open pack. Crossing fingers!
Mckenna2006
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I remember the old meso days, I think I first joined in 2001 maybe. I can remember my first order and some of you vets may have used him also Carkus! Sust amps and anapolon, then came the really cheap 50ml bottles of Quality vet and the other mex labs Brovel tornel, loeffler and my favorite Ttokkyo.
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Thanks for the heads up all, it is amazing why this all has to be done while later you drive through your local drug store and out in the parking lot they deal their "death drugs" on big signs begging you to buy them or one goes to your Family Doc and many will try to get you on any drug they can get a kickback to fund their next vacation but safety needs to be a concern hopefully this will get better but I doubt it, those who play this game still are the minority.
I don’t know what it was like 6 years ago, but this place has been wide open since I started checking it out, maybe a year ago. I don’t think it has changed much, except for a few new sources making a little extra noise. It’s not very different on other boards, mods or no. I had a difficult time deciding how to deal with the situation, and I avoided some of the most popular and trustworthy sources, because they were too public and left no way to contact them without raising a flag over my head.
Speaking of raising flags, I wonder why some here like to hide ops behind PMs. They aren’t encrypted as far as I can tell, they’re sent over clear text. Seems like that’s just calling attention to yourself. LE is MORE likely to read PMs than open posts, and there’s no gang of vets to keep the noobs (like me, lol) in line. If I couldn’t get a secure contact, I stayed away. How hard is it to stick a secure email address in the thread where they’re advertising their wears? “Send me a PM for a price list”, huh uh, no way.
Speaking of raising flags, I wonder why some here like to hide ops behind PMs. They aren’t encrypted as far as I can tell, they’re sent over clear text. Seems like that’s just calling attention to yourself. LE is MORE likely to read PMs than open posts, and there’s no gang of vets to keep the noobs (like me, lol) in line. If I couldn’t get a secure contact, I stayed away. How hard is it to stick a secure email address in the thread where they’re advertising their wears? “Send me a PM for a price list”, huh uh, no way.
Stretch
Subscriber
LMFAO.
Maybe the sources don't want their secure contact posted in the open? So when they say "PM for a price-list" what they mean is: "PM for secure contact information, which I won't post to the forum, so that my email AND my PM box can be flooded with requests from noobs who I don't want to do business with instead of JUST my PM box being flooded with assinine requests.
Hi, I'm totally new to all this and probably my question has been asked a million times -- but, if you order androgel online what, realistically, are your chances of jail and/or huge fines? I'm, 70 years old in good health, but still enjoy bodybuilding
p.s.I have no criminal background or any other trouble with the law (save for a few parking tickets)
p.s.I have no criminal background or any other trouble with the law (save for a few parking tickets)
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