Citadel Labs (Canada Domestic)

[Juicemonkeygear]

Forget wasting your money on testing the oil. I think the numbers speak for themselves. I think my gf had better numbers off 20mg weekly lol

 

[Citadel]

I’d like to do an actual test on the oil, don’t have the money laying around right now to do it.

Hey man,

The product you have was created from the same raw that was tested and posted in our intro ( I believe you have Test E). It is made to label claim, so I would suggest that 250mg per week will get you to this number on your blood work.

It's hard to discern a good product from a bad product from blood work alone, as others have stated that what one persons test levels will not mirror another user. These numbers are subjective to an individual's body chemistry.

I am not concerned with your result, I do think that is how you process testosterone.

 

[JP1979]

Hey man,

The product you have was created from the same raw that was tested and posted in our intro ( I believe you have Test E). It is made to label claim, so I would suggest that 250mg per week will get you to this number on your blood work.

It's hard to discern a good product from a bad product from blood work alone, as others have stated that what one persons test levels will not mirror another user. These numbers are subjective to an individual's body chemistry.

I am not concerned with your result, I do think that is how you process testosterone.

Sorry to say the obvious but well tested raw doesn’t mean your finished product is g2g. I agree everyone processes test differently, but your finished product is untested.

 

[Citadel]

Sorry to say the obvious but well tested raw doesn’t mean your finished product is g2g. I agree everyone processes test differently, but your finished product is untested.

You are completely correct man.

I am making assumptions given my knowledge of Citadel, and as such you or any potential client will have to take my words at face value. Raw API testing will only truly be accepted if the skeptic is able to see the entire process- which does not happen. So, I think raw testing can only be shown as a signal of good intentions in this context of scrutiny.

 

[graciebjj]

Sorry to say the obvious but well tested raw doesn’t mean your finished product is g2g. I agree everyone processes test differently, but your finished product is untested.

is there a consensus that citadel = pareto at this point? Because pareto did knowingly post results of a "3rd party" jano test of his var which showed a 20mg tablet reading 25mg and another reading 30mg, indicating at minimum a deliberate 25% overdose with another 25% swing in variance between tabs. Wouldn't be a shocker if it was sloppy production but that should be rare with oils.

 

[JP1979]

is there a consensus that citadel = pareto at this point? Because pareto did knowingly post results of a "3rd party" jano test of his var which showed a 20mg tablet reading 25mg and another reading 30mg, indicating at minimum a deliberate 25% overdose with another 25% swing in variance between tabs. Wouldn't be a shocker if it was sloppy production but that should be rare with oils.

I have no idea, I haven’t been around long enough to know Pareto. Saw the response that the “Raws” are good so that means finished should be good (implied) and had to comment

 

[graciebjj]

I have no idea, I haven’t been around long enough to know Pareto. Saw the response that the “Raws” are good so that means finished should be good (implied) and had to comment

I understand. I can't remember and full disclosure I don't know the scene that well right now so I may be off base

 

[3ml]

Forget wasting your money on testing the oil. I think the numbers speak for themselves. I think my gf had better numbers off 20mg weekly lol

You had your GF on test!! Hahah was she a horny pig?

 

[Cityofgrit]

Alright, I'm jumping in and not to defend Citadel. I have a script, 200mg Test Cyp. I inject once a week. Its from a PHARMACY, my levels came back in the high 300's last time. They want me to now inject once every 5 days. Point being, blood test numbers mean notta. People respond to Test differently, there isn't a fucking patent formula for how much Test will raise your Test levels. That's broscience bullshit. Testing the gear itself is the ONLY way you know if it is what the label claims.

 

[Juicemonkeygear]

You had your GF on test!! Hahah was she a horny pig?

Horny AF. I couldn't keep up tbh lol. She was a competitor

 

[Juicemonkeygear]

Alright, I'm jumping in and not to defend Citadel. I have a script, 200mg Test Cyp. I inject once a week. Its from a PHARMACY, my levels came back in the high 300's last time. They want me to now inject once every 5 days. Point being, blood test numbers mean notta. People respond to Test differently, there isn't a fucking patent formula for how much Test will raise your Test levels. That's broscience bullshit. Testing the gear itself is the ONLY way you know if it is what the label claims.

I agree but not wholeheartedly. Bloodwork is a pretty decent indicator for many hormones which is why doctors run bloodwork not test the script they prescribing. You can't be that much an oddity where Testosterone responds so differently that your barely out of normal range. I've tried Genetec test and Pareto test on TRT at 1cc a week and after bloodwork it showed numbers as if I'm on a blast. I had to lower dose.

 

[Cityofgrit]

I agree but not wholeheartedly. Bloodwork is a pretty decent indicator for many hormones which is why doctors run bloodwork not test the script they prescribing. You can't be that much an oddity where Testosterone responds so differently that your barely out of normal range. I've tried Genetec test and Pareto test on TRT at 1cc a week and after bloodwork it showed numbers as if I'm on a blast. I had to lower dose.

Clearly mine was at bottom of normal range at 200mg. a week. That puts other guys at 1000 ng./dl. It really can be just that.

 

[Steve84]

Clearly mine was at bottom of normal range at 200mg. a week. That puts other guys at 1000 ng./dl. It really can be just that.

It goes weird.
Another test you might be super high depending on factors.

 

[Juicemonkeygear]

And yet I keep hearing people claim that pareto and citadel are one of the same lol. I think this gentleman just proved the difference between apples and oranges. Thank you for posting bloods and helping out new members and some not so new members regain some clarity.

 

[J0han]

Hey man,

The product you have was created from the same raw that was tested and posted in our intro ( I believe you have Test E). It is made to label claim, so I would suggest that 250mg per week will get you to this number on your blood work.

It's hard to discern a good product from a bad product from blood work alone, as others have stated that what one persons test levels will not mirror another user. These numbers are subjective to an individual's body chemistry.

I am not concerned with your result, I do think that is how you process testosterone.

Just want to say, I’m not implying it’s a bad product, I’ve been happy with all the products I’ve used from you guys, and they’ve worked as expected, as well as the top level customer service I’ve received (mailing issues and order issues fixed with 0 hassle on your end). I 100% understand everyone is different in these regards and blood tests aren’t an indicator. Wanted to do a lab test for my own sanity, as in this business you really never know. I’m happy with the products, and happy with what they do, and you guys will 100% keep receiving my business.

 

[J0han]

I’ve been happy with the results from their products, test E, Tren, Mast and a few orals I've tried since January, no reason for me to purely stop using it when progress is being made, and my strength (back into powerlifting from body building) is shooting up like a rocket. Added 100lb+ to my squat and deadlift in a month using their products back from July-Early August before I got slightly injured. And after 3 weeks back on and training Hard again, strength is shooting back up and new Prs are coming weekly. And looking at it, the numbers on paper can be concerning, but if the numbers are going up in the weight room I’ve got nothing to complain about.

 

[nullptr]

I've got a citadel order coming. I'll post pics of the gear when it arrives. The responses were prompt, less than a day to reply to my emails, and I didn't end up needing to provide any ID.

So far it's been good.

 

[MaskedLiberty]

I’ve been happy with the results from their products, test E, Tren, Mast and a few orals I've tried since January, no reason for me to purely stop using it when progress is being made, and my strength (back into powerlifting from body building) is shooting up like a rocket. Added 100lb+ to my squat and deadlift in a month using their products back from July-Early August before I got slightly injured. And after 3 weeks back on and training Hard again, strength is shooting back up and new Prs are coming weekly. And looking at it, the numbers on paper can be concerning, but if the numbers are going up in the weight room I’ve got nothing to complain about.

That's because you are just getting back into power lifting....

 

[Rippidy Dippidy]

Second time ordering from Citadel in the last half year, package came in 2 days. First time around really liked what i seen in the mirror and the scale, very comparable to Pareto which was my previous go to for 2 years prior. But obviously that’s not saying much, test results are where it’s at obviously.
I’ll be blasting on 800 test, 600 EQ, 600 Deca, 50mg anadrol ED, 20/40mg dbol ED.
I have this Aromasin, Nolva and Pharma grade prami that I’ll be moving around throughout the cycle, so keep posted on the dosages when I actually start, depending on how my body reacts to the cycle. I know this is a ton for some people lol I’ll be starting my cycle next month so I’ll pull bloods forsure 5/6 weeks after my first shot.

 

[Rippidy Dippidy]