Clenbuterol overdosed - feel like dying, need opinions ASAP

madmailman96

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Ok so long story short I took .80 mcg of clen this morning, pill form but I think it was extremely overdosed. My resting heart rate is 120 bpm and Ive vommited 4 times, also starting to get pale and feel like passing out. If I went to the hospital and got a beta blocker would this help? If not what do I do, I took the Clen at 8am eastern this morning.
 
Man P.... Research is pretty spot on with their dosages in my experience. I think maybe his other suppliers were way under-dosed. Who knows?

mands

Do you think his caps are spot on?

Also, I see Clen dosed at 400mcg a ml.
Isn't that kind of high?

I am not saying from MP, I have just seen it around
 
Man P.... Research is pretty spot on with their dosages in my experience. I think maybe his other suppliers were way under-dosed. Who knows?

mands

Even assuming concentration is accurate, people need to extra attention to concentrations in liquid preparations. Whereas they may use 1ml per dosage for one product, another product may only require 0.5 or 0.1ml

1ml may be equivalent of ONE tablet tamoxifen

But for clen, 1ml could be equivalent to TWENTY tabs
 
I didn't take liquid form just pill form 80 mcg, this was the 2nd day I was on, the first day everything was perfect. But it literally was hell the 2nd (so I think one of the caps were extremely overdosed). The only other clenbuterol I've taken is from geneza pharmaceuticals.

Also on a side note today I'm experiencing very 'deep' chest pains, almost like an emptiness, what should I be watching for as the days progress for signs to go back to the hospital.
 
I didn't take liquid form just pill form 80 mcg, this was the 2nd day I was on, the first day everything was perfect. But it literally was hell the 2nd (so I think one of the caps were extremely overdosed). The only other clenbuterol I've taken is from geneza pharmaceuticals.

Also on a side note today I'm experiencing very 'deep' chest pains, almost like an emptiness, what should I be watching for as the days progress for signs to go back to the hospital.

Didn't you ask them there or better yet, didn't
they tell you what to watch for?

Pill form? Tablets or caps?

I say DEEP CHEST PAINS is a sign
 
MPR makes a 20mcg capsule, 40mcg capsule and a 200mcg 60ml bottle. I agree with Millard people need to pay close attention to the liquid supplements.

mands
 
Do you think his caps are spot on?

Also, I see Clen dosed at 400mcg a ml.
Isn't that kind of high?

I am not saying from MP, I have just seen it around

Yea cap in my experience have been pretty damn good from MPR. Yes 400mcg per ml is freaking insane.

mands
 
Honestly no they told me nothing. The only thing they said was if my heart started rapidly beating again come back. As soon as I told them I took clen they started treating me like shit and honestly I felt like I was rushed out. Going to wait out the Chest pains until tomorrow, if there still there I'll go see a heart specialist.
 
Honestly no they told me nothing. The only thing they said was if my heart started rapidly beating again come back. As soon as I told them I took clen they started treating me like shit and honestly I felt like I was rushed out. Going to wait out the Chest pains until tomorrow, if there still there I'll go see a heart specialist.

Yeah, I hear you, doctors typically aren't very sympathetic to the use of drugs for athletic goals. So Maybe you should just go to a different hospital if you feel they are really ignoring you.
 
Yea I hear ya. Only reason I went to this hospital was because it was close and I thought I was going to die any second, and without the beta blocker I probably would have because my heart rate was continuing to go up.
 
Doc's aren't as judgemental as many believe, but they do want to be paid or at least thanked for services rendered (yea, we're human afterall). Were you told be seen by a specialist? Did you read the discharge instructions provided upon dismissal? You won't meet your maker by ingesting 80mcg of Clen unless your otherwise predisposed from ailments such as ASCVD or conduction abnormalities for example.
I'm glad your well, many here were concerned for your well being!
Best regards,
Jim
 
No it's not OTC but you could ask the DOC whom evaluated you in the ED for a short course of Xanax because of your symptoms.
Benzo's are considered by many, myself included, to be the drugs of choice for symptomatic, amphetamine class of drugs like Clen, ingestions. Small amounts of alcohol, although not ideal, may prove beneficial
providing you aren't working and won't be driving etc!
 
Went back to the hospital to talk to the doc about the meds you told me about. When I got there he said he wanted to take my blood again and they did, tests came back about an hour later and I have very elevated Troponin levels so they immediately ran more tests and have now informed me I had a mild heart attack. I'm spending the night at the hospital tonight while they run more tests but this sure was one hell of a way to figure out not to use clen.
 
Went back to the hospital to talk to the doc about the meds you told me about. When I got there he said he wanted to take my blood again and they did, tests came back about an hour later and I have very elevated Troponin levels so they immediately ran more tests and have now informed me I had a mild heart attack. I'm spending the night at the hospital tonight while they run more tests but this sure was one hell of a way to figure out not to use clen.


Keller T, Zeller T, Ojeda F, et al. Serial changes in highly sensitive troponin I assay and early diagnosis of myocardial infarction. JAMA 2012;306(24):2684-93. JAMA Network | JAMA: The Journal of the American Medical Association | Serial Changes in Highly Sensitive Troponin I Assay and Early Diagnosis of Myocardial Infarction

CONTEXT: Introduction of highly sensitive troponin assays into clinical practice has substantially improved the evaluation of patients with chest pain.

OBJECTIVE: To evaluate the diagnostic performance of a highly sensitive troponin I (hsTnI) assay compared with a contemporary troponin I (cTnI) assay and their serial changes in the diagnosis of acute myocardial infarction (AMI).

DESIGN, SETTING, AND PATIENTS: A total of 1818 patients with suspected acute coronary syndrome were consecutively enrolled at the chest pain units of the University Heart Center Hamburg, the University Medical Center Mainz, and the Federal Armed Forces Hospital Koblenz, all in Germany, from 2007 to 2008. Twelve biomarkers including hsTnI (level of detection, 3.4 pg/mL) and cTnI (level of detection, 10 pg/mL) were measured on admission and after 3 and 6 hours.

MAIN OUTCOME MEASURES: Diagnostic performance for AMI of baseline and serial changes in hsTnI and cTnI results at 3 hours after admission to the emergency department.

RESULTS: Of the 1818 patients, 413 (22.7%) were diagnosed as having AMI. For discrimination of AMI, the area under the receiver operating characteristic (ROC) curve was 0.96 (95% CI, 0.95-0.97) for hsTnI on admission and 0.92 (95% CI, 0.90-0.94) for cTnI on admission. Both were superior to the other evaluated diagnostic biomarkers. The use of hsTnI at admission (with the diagnostic cutoff value at the 99th percentile of 30 pg/mL) had a sensitivity of 82.3% and a negative predictive value (for ruling out AMI) of 94.7%. The use of cTnI (with the diagnostic cutoff value at the 99th percentile of 32 pg/mL) at admission had a sensitivity of 79.4% and a negative predictive value of 94.0%. Using levels obtained at 3 hours after admission, the sensitivity was 98.2% and the negative predictive value was 99.4% for both hsTnI and cTnI assays. Combining the 99th percentile cutoff at admission with the serial change in troponin concentration within 3 hours, the positive predictive value (for ruling in AMI) for hsTnI increased from 75.1% at admission to 95.8% after 3 hours, and for cTnI increased from 80.9% at admission to 96.1% after 3 hours.

CONCLUSIONS: Among patients with suspected acute coronary syndrome, hsTnI or cTnI determination 3 hours after admission may facilitate early rule-out of AMI. A serial change in hsTnI or cTnI levels from admission (using the 99th percentile diagnostic cutoff value) to 3 hours after admission may facilitate an early diagnosis of AMI.
 
How old are you mate, any other medical problems?
How "high" was your troponin, get me a value?
Do you have any "EKG changes"
Did they do an EKG and troponin on your first visit?
PLEASE ask them these three questions and let me know.
Amphetamine like drugs only rarely cause "heart attacks" (where the muscle dies through and through) unless you have underlying ASCVD. They certainly cause "tropinin leaks" which is thought to be due to VASOSPASM. Interestingly since Clen has a half life approximating THIRTY SIX HOURS, the spasm could be more prolonged resulting in an increased probability of a 'leak" occurring. Cocaine associated chest pain is a classic example of vasospasm seen in the US, but with a half life around one hour and "active metabolites", the symptoms typically persist only a few hours. Thus a 2-4 hour "rapid rule out", being most reliable with fixed coronary lesions, would be reasonable with cocaine yet maybe not Clenbuterol!
My gut tells me their being overly cautious (unless you have other medical problems) because you had a "bumped troponin". Nonetheless, I'm glad you returned and are being more throughly evaluated.
Please follow up with us so we might ALL learn some thing (I already know considerably more about Clenbuterol than before you ran your post)!
Best regards
Jim
 
Ok so long story short I took .80 mcg of clen this morning, pill form but I think it was extremely overdosed. My resting heart rate is 120 bpm and Ive vommited 4 times, also starting to get pale and feel like passing out. If I went to the hospital and got a beta blocker would this help? If not what do I do, I took the Clen at 8am eastern this morning.

Zyzz?
 
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