Climate Change


Since I am unwilling to get my science from a teatard site no matter how aptly named (and calling your site Hot Air is almost as funny as calling yourself a teabagger), I figured I'd go check out what a real climatologist thinks of this study.

The CERN/CLOUD results are surprisingly interesting…

"Indeed, the first justification for the CLOUD experiment was that: 'The basic purpose of the CLOUD detector … is to con?rm, or otherwise, a direct link between cosmic rays and cloud formation by measuring droplet formation in a controlled test-beam environment'. It is eminently predictable that the published results will be wildly misconstrued by the contrarian blogosphere as actually proving this link. However, that would be quite wrong. ... Of course, to show that cosmic rays were actually responsible for some part of the recent warming, you would need to show that there was actually a decreasing trend in cosmic rays over recent decades – which is tricky, because there hasn’t been."

And here's the http://press.web.cern.ch/press/PressReleases/Releases2011/PR15.11E.html. Like proper scientists they make no interpretation of the data and use the results to inform their next study.
 
And it just keeps getting better: http://news.yahoo.com/nasa-data-blow-gaping-hold-global-warming-alarmism-192334971.html


With the EPA about to increase electric bills across many states, one must ask themselves what is the real agenda of the global warming "experts". Fake science is fake science. Cold fusion anyone?


Climate change: cloudy, with a chance of competing realities
Climate change: cloudy, with a chance of competing realities

There's a quote attributed to Daniel Patrick Moynihan, which generally goes "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." Yet that's exactly what seems to have developed in the world of climate science. Within the mainstream scientific community, the basic physics that drives greenhouse warming hasn't been in dispute since it was discovered over a century ago, and the ability of greenhouse gasses to force climate change is apparent on other planets and within the Earth's past.

But there's an entire parallel community, one with a handful of its own scientists. There, any prediction of a measurable impact of climate change is considered unjustifiable alarmism; mainstream science is seen as colluding to stifle all countervailing evidence, as demonstrated by the e-mails stolen from the CRU. (The multiple inquiries that have cleared the scientists who sent the e-mails? Under this view, they're little more than a whitewash.)

How have two communities ended up with what are essentially different facts? It's easy to understand some of the psychology behind it, as behavior that lets us selectively accept information based on things like our group identity has been studied extensively. But many of the differences go well beyond selective filtering. They seem to arise from an entirely separate collection of raw information.


Editor who published controversial climate paper resigns, blasts media
Editor who published controversial climate paper resigns, blasts media

Last month, we described how a paper that compared climate models to satellite readings had been blown out of proportion by a hype machine that was soon claiming the paper would "blow a gaping hole in global warming alarmism." However, even a cursory glance at the paper revealed that its claims were far more modest; other scientists who discussed the work indicated that problems with its analysis were already widely recognized. Now, the editor-in-chief of the journal that published the paper has considered these criticisms—and chosen to resign.

The paper in question, by noted contrarian Roy Spencer, uses an extremely simple model in an attempt to separate the factors that force the climate from those that act as feedback to changes in the climate. A number of climate scientists, however, wrote about how the model had been simplified to the point of being useless (one of the more detailed examples comes from BYU geochemist Barry Bickmore). These criticisms, however, haven't generally made it into the peer reviewed literature, the lone exception cited in the resignation being a paper that's not a direct critique of Spencer's work. Those same criticisms were reiterated once Spencer published his most recent paper.

Wolfgang Wagner, the editor-in-chief of Remote Sensing, where Spencer's latest work was published, acknowledged these criticisms. "Comparable studies published by other authors have already been refuted in open discussions and to some extent also in the literature," he writes, "a fact which was ignored by Spencer and Braswell in their paper and, unfortunately, not picked up by the reviewers." In other words, if the work has flaws that have been widely recognized by other scientists, those arguments should be considered even if they did not take place entirely within the scientific literature. Science blogs, and the scientists behind them, are now part of science's "open discussions" and deserve serious consideration.
 
Wagner W. Taking Responsibility on Publishing the Controversial Paper “On the Misdiagnosis of Surface Temperature Feedbacks from Variations in Earth’s Radiant Energy Balance” by Spencer and Braswell, Remote Sens. 2011, 3(8), 1603-1613. Remote Sensing 2011;3(9):2002-4. http://www.mdpi.com/2072-4292/3/9/2002/pdf

Peer-reviewed journals are a pillar of modern science. Their aim is to achieve highest scientific standards by carrying out a rigorous peer review that is, as a minimum requirement, supposed to be able to identify fundamental methodological errors or false claims. Unfortunately, as many climate researchers and engaged observers of the climate change debate pointed out in various internet discussion fora, the paper by Spencer and Braswell [1] that was recently published in Remote Sensing is most likely problematic in both aspects and should therefore not have been published.

After having become aware of the situation, and studying the various pro and contra arguments, I agree with the critics of the paper. Therefore, I would like to take the responsibility for this editorial decision and, as a result, step down as Editor-in-Chief of the journal Remote Sensing.

With this step I would also like to personally protest against how the authors and like-minded climate sceptics have much exaggerated the paper’s conclusions in public statements, e.g., in a press release of The University of Alabama in Huntsville from 27 July 2011 [2], the main author’s personal homepage [3], the story “New NASA data blow gaping hole in global warming alarmism” published by Forbes [4], and the story “Does NASA data show global warming lost in space?” published by Fox News [5], to name just a few. Unfortunately, their campaign apparently was very successful as witnessed by the over 56,000 downloads of the full paper within only one month after its publication. But trying to refute all scientific insights into the global warming phenomenon just based on the comparison of one particular observational satellite data set with model predictions is strictly impossible. Aside from ignoring all the other observational data sets (such as the rapidly shrinking sea ice extent and changes in the flora and fauna) and contrasting theoretical studies, such a simple conclusion simply cannot be drawn considering the complexity of the involved models and satellite measurements.
 
Yeah, I'm not granting you much else, but I am granting you that Obama might just be a pussy.

Obama is a giant pussy. I don't get it - right now he should be seperating himself from the republicans and promoting the stuff he was preaching when he ran. Now he is just playing Mr. Middle Ground and alienating everyone.

This current political situation sucks. I feel like either way we will end up losing.

I'll reserve total judgement until I see this package tonight - if it revolves around extending unemployment and giving us some tax breaks - I don't think I can support Obama anymore.
 
I'll reserve total judgement until I see this package tonight - if it revolves around extending unemployment and giving us some tax breaks - I don't think I can support Obama anymore.

Well that's what he did.

Obama is a giant pussy. I don't get it - right now he should be seperating himself from the republicans and promoting the stuff he was preaching when he ran. Now he is just playing Mr. Middle Ground and alienating everyone.

But he is one seriously smart fucking giant pussy with a bully platform. Mr. Middle Ground is where elections are won. And , as a scientist and lifelong registered Republican, I'm sure I prefer him as a leader than some teatard who questions evolution and global warming.

I think we'll be alright CubbieBlue whatever happens, 'cause that's just who we are are. We're Americans and we know how to endure.
 
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Yeah, I completely agree. It kind of sucks having to vote for someone just because the other guy is a complete retard though.
 
I have a low IQ and a small penis so im screwed no matter what but i do have a few questions. How many ice ages has earth been through? During the last ice age how many humans did it take to get the earth warm enough to get us out of it? Humans have such large egos.
 
Well that's what he did.



But he is one seriously smart fucking giant pussy with a bully platform. Mr. Middle Ground is where elections are won. And , as a scientist and lifelong registered Republican, I'm sure I prefer him as a leader than some teatard who questions evolution and global warming.

I think we'll be alright CubbieBlue whatever happens, 'cause that's just who we are are. We're Americans and we know how to endure.

Except he is losing the middle and now the NYT is opining on the front page from other democrats about Obama's chances being not so good: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/11/us/politics/11obama.html

Obambi is not a smart pussy. The independents don't believe a word he says. Empty promises with no substance - that is Obama and all Obama is. He's a goner. He is under in NY and NJ and now a critical NY race in a heavy Dem district looks like it is going to the Republican in a special election. I just love this country when it wakes up.

Oh, and just for more fun: Rick Perry Needn't Sweat His Global Warming Skepticism - Forbes. I love the BS 98% number that keeps being thrown around by dolts who will swallow anything thrown their direction.

Heh.
 
The Threats to a Crucial Canopy
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/01/science/earth/01forest.html?_r=1&hp

WISE RIVER, Mont. — The trees spanning many of the mountainsides of western Montana glow an earthy red, like a broadleaf forest at the beginning of autumn.

But these trees are not supposed to turn red. They are evergreens, falling victim to beetles that used to be controlled in part by bitterly cold winters. As the climate warms, scientists say, that control is no longer happening.
 
Obambi is not a smart pussy.

Goddam dude, your[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem"] ad hominems[/ame] never cease to amaze me. You want to bully the rest of us into thinking the way you do. Ain't gonna happen. We're not that fucking stupid here.
 
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Climate Change Denial
Why don’t politicians recognize that humans cause global warming?
Climate Change Denial | Psychology Today

Published on August 26, 2011 by Paul Thagard in Hot Thought

There are many candidates in the 2011 American race to be the Republican Party presidential nominee. Most of them, such as Texas governor Rick Perry, deny that current increases in world temperature are the result of human activities that produce heat-trapping gases. Instead, they argue that climate change is just a matter of natural fluctuations, so no steps need to be taken to restrict industrial activities such as oil production that increase the amount of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere. This denial contradicts the conclusions of many scientific researchers summarized by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.

If the scientists are right, the consequences of failing to act to reduce global warming will be enormous, including massive flooding of coastal areas and weather extremes such as droughts. Why and how do leaders in the US and other countries such as Canada deny that global warming is a problem that needs to be addressed by restricting carbon emissions?

Scott Findlay and I recently published an article - http://cogsci.uwaterloo.ca/Articles/thagard.climate.2011.pdf - in which we explained climate change denial as resulting from a natural thinking tendency called motivated inference, in which beliefs are based on people's goals and emotions rather than on good evidence. All of us are prone to motivated inference, in situations such as these:

Romantic relationships: my lover treats me poorly, but he/she will change.
Parenting: my child hates school, but will settle down and straighten out eventually.
Medicine: this pain in my chest is indigestion, not a heart attack.
Politics: the new leader will be the country's savior.
Sports: our team has been losing, but we're going to play great today.
Law: the evidence against my hero is serious, but he couldn't have done it.
Religion: life is hard, but my caring God will lead me to eternal bliss.
Economics: this rapid economic growth is a sign of a new kind of economy, not a bubble.
Research: the article I'm writing is my best ever and will get into a top journal.

Motivated inference is not just simpleminded wishful thinking, in that motivations do not lead directly to beliefs. Rather, our goals lead us to acquire and consider information selectively, so that we manage to find some evidence that makes us think we are being reasonable in maintaining an emotion-based belief that we ought to doubt.

The motivations that encourage politicians such as Rick Perry to deny human-caused global warming are clear: they don't like government intervention in the economy in general, and in particular they don't like interference with the oil industry, a major source of carbon emissions. If global warming is a serious problem, then there needs to be massive actions by governments across the world to change people's energy practices that produce greenhouse gases. Oil company executives and allied politicians do not want to see such actions take place, so they make various kinds of maneuvers to undermine scientific conclusions: research is flawed, global warming is just natural fluctuation, and so on.

Hence psychology is very useful for explaining why politicians and other people continue to hold beliefs that are contrary to the available evidence and to the interests of billions of people. It is less obvious what can be done to overcome denial of a world-threatening problem. Providing more evidence that global warming is accelerating as the result of human carbon emissions is only part of a solution. We also need to convince people that the needs of the vast majority of the world's people are more important than the interests of an industrial minority and the anti-government ideology that supports them. Overcoming motivated inference requires recognizing and changing motivations.
 
How does this fit into the big picture?
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/video/index.cfm?id=1024

Manney GL, Santee ML, Rex M, et al. Unprecedented Arctic ozone loss in 2011. Nature;advance online publication. Unprecedented Arctic ozone loss in 2011 : Nature : Nature Publishing Group

Chemical ozone destruction occurs over both polar regions in local winter–spring. In the Antarctic, essentially complete removal of lower-stratospheric ozone currently results in an ozone hole every year, whereas in the Arctic, ozone loss is highly variable and has until now been much more limited. Here we demonstrate that chemical ozone destruction over the Arctic in early 2011 was—for the first time in the observational record—comparable to that in the Antarctic ozone hole. Unusually long-lasting cold conditions in the Arctic lower stratosphere led to persistent enhancement in ozone-destroying forms of chlorine and to unprecedented ozone loss, which exceeded 80 per cent over 18–20 kilometres altitude. Our results show that Arctic ozone holes are possible even with temperatures much milder than those in the Antarctic. We cannot at present predict when such severe Arctic ozone depletion may be matched or exceeded.
 
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Arctic Sea Ice Continues Decline, Hits Second-Lowest Level
Arctic sea ice continues decline, hits second-lowest level

ScienceDaily (Oct. 4, 2011) — Last month the extent of sea ice covering the Arctic Ocean declined to the second-lowest extent on record. Satellite data from NASA and the NASA-supported National Snow and Ice Data Center (NSIDC) at the University of Colorado in Boulder showed that the summertime sea ice cover narrowly avoided a new record low.

See: Arctic Sea Ice News & Analysis
 
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Cooling the Warming Debate: Major New Analysis Confirms That Global Warming Is Real
Cooling the warming debate: Major new analysis confirms that global warming is real

ScienceDaily (Oct. 21, 2011) — Global warming is real, according to a major study released Oct. 20. Despite issues raised by climate change skeptics, the Berkeley Earth Surface Temperature study finds reliable evidence of a rise in the average world land temperature of approximately 1°C since the mid-1950s.

http://www.berkeleyearth.org/ (Berkeley Earth Surface Temperature ( 2011))
 
Bleak Prospects for Avoiding Dangerous Global Warming
Bleak Prospects for Avoiding Dangerous Global Warming - ScienceNOW

The bad news just got worse: A new study finds that reining in greenhouse gas emissions in time to avert serious changes to Earth's climate will be at best extremely difficult. Current goals for reducing emissions fall far short of what would be needed to keep warming below dangerous levels, the study suggests. To succeed, we would most likely have to reverse the rise in emissions immediately and follow through with steep reductions through the century. Starting later would be far more expensive and require unproven technology.

Published online today in Nature Climate Change, the new study merges model estimates of how much greenhouse gas society might put into the atmosphere by the end of the century with calculations of how climate might respond to those human emissions. Climate scientist Joeri Rogelj of ETH Zurich and his colleagues combed the published literature for model simulations that keep global warming below 2°C at the lowest cost. They found 193 examples. Modelers running such optimal-cost simulations tried to include every factor that might influence the amount of greenhouse gases society will produce -- including the rate of technological progress in burning fuels efficiently, the amount of fossil fuels available, and the development of renewable fuels. The researchers then fed the full range of emissions from the scenarios into a simple climate model to estimate the odds of avoiding a dangerous warming.

The results suggest challenging times ahead for decision makers hoping to curb the greenhouse. Strategies that are both plausible and likely to succeed call for emissions to peak this decade and start dropping right away. They should be well into decline by 2020 and far less than half of current emissions by 2050. Only three of the 193 scenarios examined would be very likely to keep the warming below the danger level, and all of those require heavy use of energy systems that actually remove greenhouse gases from the atmosphere. That would require, for example, both creating biofuels and storing the carbon dioxide from their combustion in the ground.

"The alarming thing is very few scenarios give the kind of future we want," says climate scientist Neil Edwards of The Open University in Milton Keynes, U.K. Both he and Rogelj emphasize the uncertainties inherent in the modeling, especially on the social and technological side, but the message seems clear to Edwards: "What we need is at the cutting edge. We need to be as innovative as we can be in every way." And even then, success is far from guaranteed.


Marschinski R, Jakob M. Policy: Reconsidering Copenhagen. Nature Clim Change 2011;1(6):297-8. Policy: Reconsidering Copenhagen : Nature Climate Change : Nature Publishing Group

The voluntary emission reductions pledged under the Copenhagen Accord are almost certainly insufficient to limit global warming to 2 °C. However, using the Copenhagen Green Climate Fund for mitigation efforts could achieve the reductions needed to fill the gap.
 
The Case Against Global-Warming Skepticism
There were good reasons for doubt, until now.
Richard A. Muller: The Case Against Global-Warming Skepticism - WSJ.com


Climate Change Deniers Abandon ‘Befuddled Warmist’ Physicist Who Came Around On Global Warming
Climate Change Deniers Abandon ‘Befuddled Warmist’ Physicist Who Came Around On Global Warming | TPMDC

Climate change deniers thought they had an ally in Richard Muller, a popular physics professor at UC Berkeley.

Muller didn’t reject climate science per se, but he was a skeptic, and a convenient one for big polluters and conservative anti-environmentalists — until Muller put their money where his mouth was, and launched the Berkeley Earth Surface Temperature project, in part with a grant from the Charles G. Koch foundation.

After extensive study, he’s concluded that the existing science was right all along — that the earth’s surface is warming, at an accelerating rate. But instead of second-guessing themselves, his erstwhile allies of convenience are now abandoning him.
 
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