Cycles from the 70's

[AlwaysHungry]

That’s what I thought maybe I will add 100 or lower

 

[bob357sig]

I can't go back as far as the 70,s but was around in the late 80,s early 90s. Then solo stacks were not uncommon,i ran test E for my first cycle wich i se now was a good thing but I also remember running winn only cycle and later in the 90s running a tren A only cycle. I also remember tapering up,then down being a common practice,I believed then that tapering down helped recovery after cycle.

 

[primus]

I know many people running deca only cycles and apparently, without test , you will suffer no deca dick. Deca aromatizes less than test but when you combine the two, it creates a super estrogenic environment which will cause the ED, major bloat, lethargy
This may be why people claim prolactin spikes from deca when in reality its Just too much aromatization in general , with a small amount of progesterone or prolactin creating issues.

Deca only = Somewhat hard yet not freaky dry look, nice look to physique, mass, etc. Also, pretty low on sides. Enough estrogen to support function but if you feel as you need more you can add dbol depending on how sensitive you are.
As others mentioned , any compound can be used without test. Some people do well without test and prefer it, others hate it. Its all about experimentation.

Thank you for the info.

 

[master.on]

Any older fellas on here know first hand what some of the old school bodybuilders were using/dosing back in the day. With research you'll see d-bol, deca, test, primobolan. With some hear say on mentzer dosing up to 2+ grams a week on deca. Other stories of Arnold with a candy dish filled with d-bol and taking handfuls without counting,Among other things.
Also are there any meso beasts who have a similar physique to that of the 70's and would you mind talking about your own cycle history and experience for educational purposes?

While I wasn't even born back then
I love no-Testosterone 70s like cycles
With some modern twists:
1 Mast E is the new Primo
2 Replace some Deca with EQ
3 Dbol/Adrol combo works better than Dbol alone
4 HCG helps a lot
5 Add some tiny dose Letro to control HCG and Dbol excess estrogen (just a 2.5 mg Letro tab a week)
6 Dbol estrogen can't be spotted in bloodwork, so add some Nolva
7 pyramid up, but don't pyramid down, just stop cycle at week 12
8 leave Dbol/Adrol for the last 4-6 weeks, when gains plateau begins.

Thanks for the great response!
Now would dbol deca only cause deca dick?

Dbol does a lot to reduce deca dick, so does HCG and Mast E.

 

[AlwaysHungry]

Eq has nothing to do with deca. Also I’m not into running hcg on cycle because you inject a hormone so you send signals to your body to shut down naturall production then you inject hcg and you send signals to start production then the body have two signals one to shut down one to start producing . Is that logic ?

 

[master.on]

Eq has nothing to do with deca. Also I’m not into running hcg on cycle because you inject a hormone so you send signals to your body to shut down naturall production then you inject hcg and you send signals to start production then the body have two signals one to shut down one to start producing . Is that logic ?

IMO EQ+Deca works better with less side effects than Deca alone.

HCG keeps your testis "alive", as they can permanently atrophy
testis mainly shutdown from reduced LH/FSH from the pituitary
HCG mimics mostly LH (and FSH a bit) so testis continue to make at least some Testosterone.

Personally I've done 2.5g+ Mast E + Deca + Eq + Adrol + Dbol, no Testosterone cycles
and HCG + low dose Letro kept natural Testosterone about midrange about the end of the cycle (as evidenced by bloodwork).

 

[Big_paul]

Test, deca and dbol works for me. That's a 1970's cycle.

 

[ErikR]

While I wasn't even born back then
I love no-Testosterone 70s like cycles
With some modern twists:
1 Mast E is the new Primo
2 Replace some Deca with EQ
3 Dbol/Adrol combo works better than Dbol alone
4 HCG helps a lot
5 Add some tiny dose Letro to control HCG and Dbol excess estrogen (just a 2.5 mg Letro tab a week)
6 Dbol estrogen can't be spotted in bloodwork, so add some Nolva
7 pyramid up, but don't pyramid down, just stop cycle at week 12
8 leave Dbol/Adrol for the last 4-6 weeks, when gains plateau begins.


Dbol does a lot to reduce deca dick, so does HCG and Mast E.

Why wouldn't you add a low dose of testosterone?

 

[AlwaysHungry]

Yeah eq and deca can work I agree I thought you say eq has similar effects to deca etc. also deca You can run deca alone or with dbol but in this situations you must expirament a little with the dosages. Idk man that’s my logic with hcg when I finish the cycle I pin 5000iu then a week later 5000iu more and then I start pct

 

[michaelmmm]

its exactly what the first guy said on here. U cant even compare the steroids that we buy vs the ones they had. They had it at a cheap cost, I've heard test vials were average 12$ AND THEY WERE 100% pharma grade. that is what made their cycles very effective. U think ur buying pharma gear online, but half the time ur not. Don't u see the diff in those guys that travel to the middle east. They have the same type of setup with better compounds than the 70s and they grow huge in short times. 50mg dbol ugl is nothing like 50mg dbol pharma from 70s or middle east now a days.
thats why so many people take loads of cycles and still look like total garbage. I always run ugl cycles high dosage because of this

 

[AlwaysHungry]

Agree I buy test vial for 12$ super good quality but not pharma I cant trust any source to buy pharma online. Where I live some pharmacist sell illegal pharma grade roids but that shit is so expensive you don’t even imagine we have NORMA deca and test Bayer proviron Bayer test. But I can get from the pharmacy very cheap nolvadex and clomid for like 4$ a box and also pregnyl.

 

[master.on]

Test, deca and dbol works for me. That's a 1970's cycle.

While I agree that T+deca+Dbol is a good and simple cycle
adding Test no longer makes it a 70s-like cycle

Why wouldn't you add a low dose of testosterone?

Too bothersome side effects
constant headaches, high BP, heart pounding and hematocrit at 1g+, despite donating blood.

IMO Mast E + EQ + Deca + Adrol + Dbol
gives much better results with almost no sides. At least for me.

 

[primus]

its exactly what the first guy said on here. U cant even compare the steroids that we buy vs the ones they had. They had it at a cheap cost, I've heard test vials were average 12$ AND THEY WERE 100% pharma grade. that is what made their cycles very effective. U think ur buying pharma gear online, but half the time ur not. Don't u see the diff in those guys that travel to the middle east. They have the same type of setup with better compounds than the 70s and they grow huge in short times. 50mg dbol ugl is nothing like 50mg dbol pharma from 70s or middle east now a days.
thats why so many people take loads of cycles and still look like total garbage. I always run ugl cycles high dosage because of this

Some great points man. The Middle East is on fire for aas ATM.

 

[Theworm]

Some great points man. The Middle East is on fire for aas ATM.

Yes, one can say it's blowing up over there
(Insert dr evil photo with finger in mouth)

 

[5percentbrah]

When did proviron and Mast become available?

Not as effective as real AI’s, but it would have been something to let them run higher test without crazy E2 levels.

 

[stone988]

I have some experience with steroid cycles from the 80's here goes. Most people in my gym were on whatever the dealer had at the time period!! We didnt have a candy store of dozens of websites, we took what we could get our hands on and afford! Test wasn't the most popular drug, do to its side effects, was considered dirty drug by many, test was cheap too. There wasnt any UGL's but plenty of Veterinary drugs, winstrol v and Eg liquid Dbol being the most popular. Cycles Deca/ Var Deca/Dbol Deca Drol, Primo/Dbol, winstro V Test/eq Oral Dbol only too ect. Finajet/tren was known as a cutting drug not some miracle drug lol Big stacks were not that common due to availability. also everyone pinned once a week with most drugs, pins were harder to get . I ran winstrol V alone and had great results and no sexual sides. There was HGH around too, t3 and guys were using slin as far back as 1986 no matter what bullshit they tell you that Dorian was the first, total crock of dog shit!
I always liked test had no sides or gyno, others can show you the scars from surgery.
Nolva and Proviron were the only thing for estrogen. A lot of guys looked like walking water beds from all the water retention.Today you dont see that look anymore. Never heard of Deca dick until I started looking into using gear after 25 years natural. If you look at IFBB pros from the 80's they are all on Deca as their base. They have a round wet look to them its very distinct.