deca & mental health

[Mrhairyman]

How's it going guys,
My Dr has prescribed me deca to help with reoccurring joint issues that have become a problem as I get older. I have dealt with anxiety and depression in the past and am currently on meds, I am hesitant to start because of the mental health issues that arise in some while taking deca.
My question for the group is, how was your experience mentaly/emotionaly while using deca and did you have any underlying mental health issues prior?
Since it's not npp I am thinking about splitting 100 into 50 2X a week
What are you guys thought?
Thanks for the positive feedback !

(I would like to say I respect my Dr. advice and opinion, I am simply posting this asking for feedback from guys who have actually taken it)

 

[pigeonhed]

If my doctor even suggested Deca for joint pain, I would seek a new doctor.

There are legitimate and approved treatments for joint pain, including physical therapy, non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs), corticosteroids, and other medications that may be more suitable and safe for your specific condition. I would highly suggest a second opinion.

 

[borkies]

Only one way to find out, and fortunately it's NPP so if you start feeling shitty you can stop taking it and be clear within days. Mental sides can be hard to see in a mirror though so even better if you have someone you trust keeping an eye on you.

That being said, I don't think 100mg/wk would be enough to manifest mental sides anyway. I don't start feeling glitchy until 400+mg and usually then I can mitigate with a DHT added in.

Edit: oh wait you said it's Deca. Yeah no that's a weird doctor you got there. Sounds "online clinic-y".

 

[Theworm]

Only one way to find out, and fortunately it's NPP so if you start feeling shitty you can stop taking it and be clear within days. Mental sides can be hard to see in a mirror though so even better if you have someone you trust keeping an eye on you.

That being said, I don't think 100mg/wk would be enough to manifest mental sides anyway. I don't start feeling glitchy until 400+mg and usually then I can mitigate with a DHT added in.

Edit: oh wait you said it's Deca. Yeah no that's a weird doctor you got there. Sounds "online clinic-y".

Deca messed me up mentally only when I ran it at 400 without test as an experiment. Otherwise, it never had an effect on me. Your doc is adding it as an additional anabolic which studies show it builds mass even low dose. I’d run it 6 months on and 6 months off imo and keep your HCT in check as well as blood pressure

 

[SkinnyNatty]

I'm not a social guy at gym usually, because i sometimes get very bad social anxiety to a point where my lips start vibrating...but while on deca i feel like an extroverted positive guy now.. Lol. I've suffered from severe depression in the past (My family background is worse than anyone could imagine)
Maybe Deca experience may vary among individuals, but i always feel positive while on deca...I now feel like i have a purpose in life atleast..
my first cycle was deca only @500mg/week which went pleasant with no visible sides..and now i'm at 8th week of Deca 500mg and test c 500mg.. No mental or other sides so far.. Feels great

 

[29trt]

Yeah nandrolone is a weird one... it affects different people differently from mental sides point of view... But you can be sure it's going to mess with your brain one way or the other and 100mg is right on the edge when you start to see see sides , for joint relief you might get away with just 50mg/week so I would start there.

 

[laclark89]

If my doctor even suggested Deca for joint pain, I would seek a new doctor.

There are legitimate and approved treatments for joint pain, including physical therapy, non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs), corticosteroids, and other medications that may be more suitable and safe for your specific condition. I would highly suggest a second opinion.

Even a trt dr? Offerig a little try plus. I would wana kiss em lol. and ask my gp for the other treatments.

 

[lundgren]

How's it going guys,
My Dr has prescribed me deca to help with reoccurring joint issues that have become a problem as I get older. I have dealt with anxiety and depression in the past and am currently on meds, I am hesitant to start because of the mental health issues that arise in some while taking deca.
My question for the group is, how was your experience mentaly/emotionaly while using deca and did you have any underlying mental health issues prior?
Since it's not npp I am thinking about splitting 100 into 50 2X a week
What are you guys thought?
Thanks for the positive feedback !

(I would like to say I respect my Dr. advice and opinion, I am simply posting this asking for feedback from guys who have actually taken it)

Hello,

I'm very interested about this subject.

When i read your post, i think about Jay Cutler during the mass period (i dont remember how much year ago) he's eating, eating ... eating a lot a look like depressed (i think a lot he's used deca).

I tried Nandrolone Decanoate and Phenylpropionate, and it's not the same things about the effect on body and mind.

During my last cycle i used ND for healing started at 100mg first week and followed by 125mg, if i train i have a very good feeling, good mood, but when i don't train for 3 days it's not the same things, i don't feel bad but i want to move, to train.

I think if you have problem anxiety / depression the best are to check with your specialist, and talk about this compound, if you plan to use it, continue to check your specialist during the cycle of healing.

If you have the possibility to train in the gym and cardio like running, swimming etc ... that's help a lot for anxiety / depression but you need to move and practice this type of training
(i think it's a story of endorphin, the best drug in the world produced by your body !)

Everybody react differently about the AAS, so if you plan continue to check your doctor during the cycle.

From my side i used 1 time weekly 100mg first week followed by 125mg / week for 11 week.

Give some uptad if possible and i hope your feel better and find a solution for your anxiety and depression.

Be Safe & Take Care <3

 

[Juicedhead]

whoa youre doc gave you deca? did ypu ask for it? Are you in the US? what dose did he give you? And as far as mental sides it can cause depression but if youre on med to keep you happy then youll probably not have to worry about it.

 

[Avarice911]

whoa youre doc gave you deca? did ypu ask for it? Are you in the US? what dose did he give you? And as far as mental sides it can cause depression but if youre on med to keep you happy then youll probably not have to worry about it.

I have deca prescribed as well at 100mg/week. TRT clinics will give you whatever if you’re willing to pay for it

 

[Juicedhead]

I have deca prescribed as well at 100mg/week. TRT clinics will give you whatever if you’re willing to pay for it

im going to a trt clinic to get my next cycle. I bet theyd give you anadrol huh? What about anavar? Is that still a prescription drug is the good ole us of a? Bro can you do me a solid and ask for anavar next time youre there just to see if a doctor can still scrib that? Or what about primo?

 

[Avarice911]

im going to a trt clinic to get my next cycle. I bet theyd give you anadrol huh? What about anavar? Is that still a prescription drug is the good ole us of a? Bro can you do me a solid and ask for anavar next time youre there just to see if a doctor can still scrib that? Or what about primo?

I also have anavar prescribed in 25mg capsules. There are clinics that offer anadrol but the one I use does not. Primo isn’t available at all as a prescription drug in the USA tho

 

[scyrkules]

im going to a trt clinic to get my next cycle. I bet theyd give you anadrol huh? What about anavar? Is that still a prescription drug is the good ole us of a? Bro can you do me a solid and ask for anavar next time youre there just to see if a doctor can still scrib that? Or what about primo?

My trt doc offers anavar, deca, several peptides.

 

[Titan18]

I just came off 300 wk NPP (with 375 test, 300 mast). I was honestly loving it for 10 weeks or so and then my mood and mental state slowly deteriorated. Got extreme anxiety, depression, jealousy...honestly it has been hell for a week or so. I dropped the NPP and hopefully things level off. Gonna go to TRT with low dose mast for awhile.

 

[Theworm]

I just came off 300 wk NPP (with 375 test, 300 mast). I was honestly loving it for 10 weeks or so and then my mood and mental state slowly deteriorated. Got extreme anxiety, depression, jealousy...honestly it has been hell for a week or so. I dropped the NPP and hopefully things level off. Gonna go to TRT with low dose mast for awhile.

Yes , the insane jealousy thing is an issue I’ve read many having, several long threads on it at t nation and I believe excel male. Happened to me when I ran deca solo. Took a while to drop the thoughts.

 

[TheRingloVale]

You just have to try it to find out. Deca used to not bother me at all. As I got older I noticed it started causing pretty severe depression at 400mg,no matter how much test or mast I used with it. For me it drives an overall melancholy and irrational sad feeling.

 

[Titan18]

Yes , the insane jealousy thing is an issue I’ve read many having, several long threads on it at t nation and I believe excel male. Happened to me when I ran deca solo. Took a while to drop the thoughts.

I had read similar things and that's why I held off on using any 19 Nors. Thought I was golden at first, no real issues. I actually felt GREAT. But yeah Idk if I ever want to risk getting to this mental state again. Which sucks bc all other results were awesome. I guess there's no free lunch lol.

 

[Titan18]

You just have to try it to find out. Deca used to not bother me at all. As I got older I noticed it started causing pretty severe depression at 400mg,no matter how much test or mast I used with it. For me it drives an overall melancholy and irrational sad feeling.

I really wonder what the mechanism of action causes this with nandralone and if there is a way to negate it. Most people say mast, which might help with ED issues but in my case it didn't do anything for my mental state.

 

[Theworm]

I really wonder what the mechanism of action causes this with nandralone and if there is a way to negate it. Most people say mast, which might help with ED issues but in my case it didn't do anything for my mental state.

Nandrolone really affects several neurotransmitters

Chronic administration of the anabolic androgenic steroid nandrolone alters neurosteroid action at the sigma-1 receptor but not at the sigma-2 or NMDA receptors - PubMed

Studies have shown that anabolic androgenic steroids (AASs) can induce profound changes to mental health. Commonly reported psychiatric side effects among AAS users include aggression, anxiety, depression, drug abuse and cognitive disabilities. In experimental animals, many of these effects have...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Titan18]

Nandrolone really affects several neurotransmitters

Chronic administration of the anabolic androgenic steroid nandrolone alters neurosteroid action at the sigma-1 receptor but not at the sigma-2 or NMDA receptors - PubMed

Studies have shown that anabolic androgenic steroids (AASs) can induce profound changes to mental health. Commonly reported psychiatric side effects among AAS users include aggression, anxiety, depression, drug abuse and cognitive disabilities. In experimental animals, many of these effects have...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Thanks for posting this. Between this and the risk of cardiovascular damage I think I'm done with nandralone. At some point the side effects far outweigh the benefits.