Details on how to start your own testing lab and how much to invest

[MisterSuperGod]

Just a list to see how many reference standards are needed

1 Drostanolone enanthate (@master.on favorite steroid)
2 Drostanolone propionate
3 Nandrolone decanoate
4 Nandrolone phenylpropionate
5 Nandrolone cypionate
6 Nandrolone undecylenate
7 Nandrolone laurate
8 Testosterone enanthate
9 Testosterone cypionate
10 Testosterone propionate
11 Testosterone acetate
12 Testosterone no ester
13 Testosterone decanoate
14 Testosterone undecanoate
15 Testosterone isocaproate
16 Testosterone phenylpropionate
17 Trenbolone acetate
18 Trenbolone enanthate
19 Trenbolone hexahydrobenzylcarbonate
20 Trenbolone no ester
21 Boldenone undecylenate
22 Boldenone cypionate
23 Boldenone acetate
24 Boldenone no ester
25 Methenolone enanthate
26 Methenolone acetate
27 Trestolone acetate
28 Trestolone enanthate
29 Trestolone decanoate
30 Dihydroboldenone / 1-Testosterone
31 Clostebol acetate
32 Stanozolol
33 Methyltestosterone
34 Oxymetholone
35 Methandrostenolone / Methandienone
36 Fluoxymesterone
37 4-chlorodehydromethyltestosterone (Tbol)
38 Mesterolone (Proviron)
39 Methasterone (Sdrol)
40 Oxandrolone


So that's 40 steroids
If every reference standard costs an average $100 that's $4000

So far, the HPLC+microbiology lab is a $40,000 investment.

And i can just order these standards online, no questions asked? No jackboot government thug is going to inquire as to why i'm purchasing AAS samples and having them sent to a residential address or that i have no affiliation with any accredited lab or college?

 

[janoshik]

And i can just order these standards online, no questions asked? No jackboot government thug is going to inquire as to why i'm purchasing AAS samples and having them sent to a residential address or that i have no affiliation with any accredited lab or college?

They won't even sell those to you.

 

[T-Bagger]

They won't even sell those to you.

So how did the place W&M uses get them? I would think the DEA would be all over them for purchasing those standards and does the DEA makenthem record how often those standards are utilized?

 

[janoshik]

So how did the place W&M uses get them? I would think the DEA would be all over them for purchasing those standards and does the DEA makenthem record how often those standards are utilized?

Multiple possibilities.

1) He doesn't use standards and uses purchased/received raws as standard. Quite time consuming at start.

2) He approximates results for the samples he doesn't have standards for ( GC/FID, extinction coefficient calculations, NMR ... ). Now this is not the most basic stuff, but I don't have a doubt his chemist is capable.

3) He really purchases standards. For that you really have to be an accredited laboratory.

Also, in that case, don't know how it's in the US, but over here there's records about every purchase and EVERY USE. Like, you spill some shit on your table and you have to document it. If this is the case over there as well, then it would take it about half an hour to make a bust without having to get off the comfy DEA chair. Or whatever is equivalent of DEA in NL

 

[calvin33]

So how did the place W&M uses get them? I would think the DEA would be all over them for purchasing those standards and does the DEA makenthem record how often those standards are utilized?

They have a licence for that in the US. W&M doesn't do the testing. He redirects samples to an actual accredited lab he will not disclose. Janoshik also can acquire standards in Europe. I've personally been proven this.

Standards can be bought in the grams and very few miligrams be used per test so one standard can last for a long time.

 

[T-Bagger]

They have a licence for that in the US. W&M doesn't do the testing. He redirects samples to an actual accredited lab he will not disclose. Janoshik also can acquire standards in Europe. I've personally been proven this.

Standards can be bought in the grams and very few miligrams be used per test so one standard can last for a long time.

Yeah, I knew W&M wasn’t doing the tests, but it sounded to me like it’s someone he knows.

 

[master.on]

And i can just order these standards online, no questions asked? No jackboot government thug is going to inquire as to why i'm purchasing AAS samples and having them sent to a residential address or that i have no affiliation with any accredited lab or college?

They are controlled substances in the USA
if ordered from abroad, only the seller needs to fill up DEA forms but not the end customer.

So how did the place W&M uses get them? I would think the DEA would be all over them for purchasing those standards and does the DEA makenthem record how often those standards are utilized?

I don't know what W&M does or does not
but

A. the testing lab might be located abroad (where they can legally buy reference standards), and W&M just puts the samples in the mail and gets paid a commission for every order

B. the lab might be located domestically, but they buy the standards abroad trough a foreign paper company, and then remail the standards back to themselves.

C. Don't use any standards, just very pure, true lab grade raws, bought abroad.

D. they legally buy the standards domestically, but pretend to be making some "antidoping intelligence report", to find out what "addict bodybuilders" are really injecting in their bodies, "without realizing the harm they are doing to themselves"

E. the lab is actually an LE front (which can get any DEA licenses they wish)
I'm NOT saying that they do, just brainstorming theoretical possibilities.

 

[S.B.C]

I'm pretty sure genuine first world pharma versions of products can be used instead of true analytical ref samples. That's what S**S was using back in the day. I provided them with several as we were good friends.