Dnp...another log thread

[Flabbybutt]

DAY 32: I'm down to 183lbs. I have enough dnp to get to day 34, then it's finally over. If I live, and every thing goes to plan, I could end up losing 25lbs total, after water weight loss of course.

 

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I feel like I lost 30 IQ points reading this entire thread. You were trying a poison for the first time, did basically everything research indicated you shouldn't do, ramped an unknown dosage repeatedly, and this to lose what most people would consider normal amounts of fat (200 lb to 180 lb at 5'11").

I'm glad you didn't die. Hopefully those reading this log use it as a guide of what NOT to do. Your public service as "that guy" is appreciated. I expect Darwin will take you before your time.

Good Luck!

 

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I feel like I lost 30 IQ points reading this entire thread.

Sadly, this DNP thread was the less retarded one for this period:

https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/first-dnp-cycle.134377119/ (First DNP Cycle)
https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/first-dnp-cycle.134377119/
That one went full retard on Post #1.

 

[hurricane]

I'm not sorry if this offends anyone. First off I think your part retard for even considering DNP use. Secondly if you were truly dedicated you could of lost that in 3 months naturally. DNP use is for complete morons or for those who are suicidal. Glad you didn't die, but you are retarded.

 

[Flabbybutt]

I feel like I lost 30 IQ points reading this entire thread. You were trying a poison for the first time, did basically everything research indicated you shouldn't do, ramped an unknown dosage repeatedly, and this to lose what most people would consider normal amounts of fat (200 lb to 180 lb at 5'11").

I'm glad you didn't die. Hopefully those reading this log use it as a guide of what NOT to do. Your public service as "that guy" is appreciated. I expect Darwin will take you before your time.

Good Luck!

You are entitled to your opinion. I noticed through this journey that there is a lot of misinformation being perpetuated in the forums. A great deal of it, from people with no experience with dnp. Within these posts lies info that may be helpful to some people that are faced with a bunch accumulated contradictory info they've gathered from reading all the anecdotal crap we have. If anyone thinks dnp is black and white, they are mistaken. There is a lot of variability in how one reacts to dnp, underdosed or not.

I listened to my body before I went up in dose with enough time to get the max accumulation of that dose. I was never too hot, and always had enough energy for my cardio runs. You see, I never was fully engulfed in the crazy dnp symptoms, just sweaty in bed. Its not like I front loaded 750, or went up in 3 days because I didn't feel the dnp. I handled this shit responsibly, with great fear and respect. And about the uncertainty of the consistency of the underdosed product, it was was my conclusion that it was an even underdosing. I never felt a spike up or down. According to my reactions and interpretations, the shit was even though out.

I was merely trying to contribute to the bullshit annals of dnp, that's all. I'm pretty sure with all the different cycling, on different things, people need to go slightly off script to get decent results, albeit, within reason. My doses were never at death levels, even if properly dosed.

 

[hurricane]

You are entitled to your opinion. I noticed through this journey that there is a lot of misinformation being perpetuated in the forums. A great deal of it, from people with no experience with dnp. Within these posts lies info that may be helpful to some people that are faced with a bunch accumulated contradictory info they've gathered from reading all the anecdotal crap we have. If anyone thinks dnp is black and white, they are mistaken. There is a lot of variability in how one reacts to dnp, underdosed or not.

I listened to my body before I went up in dose with enough time to get the max accumulation of that dose. I was never too hot, and always had enough energy for my cardio runs. You see, I never was fully engulfed in the crazy dnp symptoms, just sweaty in bed. Its not like I front loaded 750, or went up in 3 days because I didn't feel the dnp. I handled this shit responsibly, with great fear and respect. And about the uncertainty of the consistency of the underdosed product, it was was my conclusion that it was an even underdosing. I never felt a spike up or down. According to my reactions and interpretations, the shit was even though out.

I was merely trying to contribute to the bullshit annals of dnp, that's all. I'm pretty sure with all the different cycling, on different things, people need to go slightly off script to get decent results, albeit, within reason. My doses were never at death levels, even if properly dosed.

Like I said, I am glad you got through it without incident, but having a minor in chemistry I am well aware that even the slightest mistake with DNP can at best send you to the hospital, and at worst kill you. There is no way I would ever advise the use of it. Glad it did what you wanted but there is no margin of error with DNP.

 

[Flabbybutt]

I'm not sorry if this offends anyone. First off I think your part retard for even considering DNP use. Secondly if you were truly dedicated you could of lost that in 3 months naturally. DNP use is for complete morons or for those who are suicidal. Glad you didn't die, but you are retarded.

I'm not retarded, nor of low IQ. But you're correct, I could've lost it naturally, just like I've done it my whole life. This time, for whatever reason, I wanted a shortcut. I did it, and now I move on.

 

[hurricane]

I'm not retarded, nor of low IQ. But you're correct, I could've lost it naturally, just like I've done it my whole life. This time, for whatever reason, I wanted a shortcut. I did it, and now I move on.

I understand. It is just so toxic to the body, and even using it with extreme caution can result in death. To be honest I'm just glad your OK. Lot of people who have used it can't say the same.

 

[Flabbybutt]

Like I said, I am glad you got through it without incident, but having a minor in chemistry I am well aware that even the slightest mistake with DNP can at best send you to the hospital, and at worst kill you. There is no way I would ever advise the use of it. Glad it did what you wanted but there is no margin of error with DNP.

Then how have people survived many times over the lethal dose. There is empirical data showing how wide the lethal dose actually is.

 

[Flabbybutt]

Then how have people survived many times over the lethal dose. There is empirical data showing how wide the lethal dose actually is.

Ill have to cite some sources to show you the fluctuations.

 

[hurricane]

Then how have people survived on 10-20x's the lethal dose. There is empirical data showing how wide the lethal dose actually is.

You made my point. Some can tolerate higher amounts, while others may not be able to tolerate it at all. DNP use is playing Russian roulette with a loaded revolver. If you want to keep using it go ahead, but it will eventually fuck you up. I only cycle testosterone. Your body knows what it is. And yes, to much test in the long run will fuck you up, a shot of prop won't kill you overnight. Fuck up DNP and you don't wake up the next morning.

 

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You are entitled to your opinion. I noticed through this journey that there is a lot of misinformation being perpetuated in the forums. A great deal of it, from people with no experience with dnp. Within these posts lies info that may be helpful to some people that are faced with a bunch accumulated contradictory info they've gathered from reading all the anecdotal crap we have. If anyone thinks dnp is black and white, they are mistaken. There is a lot of variability in how one reacts to dnp, underdosed or not.

I listened to my body before I went up in dose with enough time to get the max accumulation of that dose. I was never too hot, and always had enough energy for my cardio runs. You see, I never was fully engulfed in the crazy dnp symptoms, just sweaty in bed. Its not like I front loaded 750, or went up in 3 days because I didn't feel the dnp. I handled this shit responsibly, with great fear and respect. And about the uncertainty of the consistency of the underdosed product, it was was my conclusion that it was an even underdosing. I never felt a spike up or down. According to my reactions and interpretations, the shit was even though out.

I was merely trying to contribute to the bullshit annals of dnp, that's all. I'm pretty sure with all the different cycling, on different things, people need to go slightly off script to get decent results, albeit, within reason. My doses were never at death levels, even if properly dosed.

Good for you, pumpkin! My point was to warn others. You dodged a Darwin Award. Your mother must be proud. We try not to encourage aprocryphal, seat of the pants, gut-feel garbage here at meso. That way people don't have to count on luck to survive with their HPTA intact, in the case of AAS or, in the case of DNP, just survive.

Again, bully for you and your dodging of the bullet. Best of luck. Go elsewhere please and log this horseshit next time. I'd tell you to fuck off and die but you seem to have that well in hand.

Thanks.

 

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hen how have people survived on 10-20x's the lethal dose.

Pretty sure that chick was an alien-human hybrid.

 

[Flabbybutt]

Pretty sure that chick was an alien-human hybrid.

What was the dose she took?

 

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What was the dose she took?

4.3mg/kg of body weight. Was in one of the studies @Docd187123 Me and @MrRippedZilla were arguing over back a few pages.

 

[Flabbybutt]

Good for you, pumpkin! My point was to warn others. You dodged a Darwin Award. Your mother must be proud. We try not to encourage aprocryphal, seat of the pants, gut-feel garbage here at meso. That way people don't have to count on luck to survive with their HPTA intact, in the case of AAS or, in the case of DNP, just survive.

Again, bully for you and your dodging of the bullet. Best of luck. Go elsewhere please and log this horseshit next time. I'd tell you to fuck off and die but you seem to have that well in hand.

Thanks.

Slow down buddy. You are way to exited. Go take it out on your poor wife, or maybe some lifting. You are a pathetic and unfortunate part of the forums. Get a life, or stroke out or something. Good luck. Love you

 

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Slow down buddy. You are way to exited. Go take it out on your poor wife, or maybe some lifting. You are a pathetic and unfortunate part of the forums. Get a life, or stroke out or something. Good luck. Love you

Thanks. Good luck on your quest to squeeze into that strapless number, Sheila.

 

[Flabbybutt]

Thanks. Good luck on your quest to squeeze into that strapless number, Sheila.

Good luck walking around life as the douche bag that you are. Thank your parents for that. You are lame dude.

 

[MrRippedZilla]

4.3mg/kg of body weight. Was in one of the studies @Docd187123 Me and @MrRippedZilla were arguing over back a few pages.

That was the lowest record dose causing death - it was a rare, idiosyncratic, reaction and looking into the background of that particular case will show you why...

That case was reported in 1934, death was caused by agranulocytosis (she had critically a critically low WBC count when hospitalized) and, it was assumed, that DNP lead to the agranulocytosis.
However, 2 important things to keep in mind here:

1) The reporters themselves admitted to the lack of causal relationship:
"Although it is not proved that the use of dinitrophenol bore anything but a temporal relationship to the development of agranulocytosis in the two cases, the definite possibility is present that the drug was of distinct etiological significance. (Dameshek W, Gargill SL. 1934. Studies in Agranulocytosis. N Engl J Med 211:440-443)."

2) The hypothesis was that since Benzene is well known for causing bone marrow agranulocytosis, DNP might be able to do the same thing since it also possesses a benzene ring.
The problem with this hypothesis is summarized nicely here:
"The common perception that other molecules resembling benzene in structure or containing a benzene ring also cause marrow suppression is not well supported by facts. Not all aromatic hydrocarbons share biologic activities. In contrast to benzene, neither the closely related alkylbenzenes (214) nor pure toluene and xylene (2156,216) are marrow toxins. Often, an aromatic hydrocarbon has been implicated clinically only because no other apparent cause of aplastic anemia was found. For some substances, toxicity may be due to the presence of benzene itself, either as a contaminant in the synthesis of the molecule or in the petroleum distillates used to dissolve the product. Nevertheless, the total number of bone marrow failure cases reported is very small, considering the large populations exposed to this heterogeneous group of chemicals." (Handin, Robert I, Samuel E. Lux, and Thomas P. Stossel. Blood: Principles and Practice of Hematology. Philadelphia, Pa: Lippincott Williams & Wilkins, 2003. Print.)
This also coincides with the hypothesis that the deaths caused by agranulocytosis were actually due to benzene contamination of the DNP batches - something Cutting & Tainter (researches who conducted the original human DNP clinical trials) warned as a serious risk and I still consider to be worthy of consideration when attempting to source DNP.

Not that I'm defending this thread in any way - hell, I predicted it would be a waste of time at the start. Trying to justify the use of beyond lethal doses (grams) of DNP based on some anecdotal survivors was beyond retarded.

 

[Flabbybutt]

Not that I'm defending this thread in any way - hell, I predicted it would be a waste of time at the start. Trying to justify the use of beyond lethal doses (grams) of DNP based on some anecdotal survivors was beyond

Not trying to justify taking lethal doses man. Simply saying that it's happened. My only point is that 500mg of the same product can effect individuals differently, like every other legal or illegal substance. You start at a certain universal standard dose, then over time you adjust the amounts and frequencies accordingly, keeping it under the lethal dose, of course. This is a standard in prescribing medication, and with experienced junkies.

You definitely know your shit, thanks for sharing.