Do you guys stock up on gear in case of stricter laws?

[sinewave3]

Question: how could the laws be any stricter in the USA? Like make gear “more” illegal? Like schedule 2 or 1 instead of 3?

My point is that they are already illegal and that has not really stopped anyone, what else can they do?

I feel like the drug war in general has failed personally, now it’s just a talking point for politicians to get more money or to sound like they are actually doing some work...

 

[FLTestlab]

Question: how could the laws be any stricter in the USA? Like make gear “more” illegal? Like schedule 2 or 1 instead of 3?

My point is that they are already illegal and that has not really stopped anyone, what else can they do?

I feel like the drug war in general has failed personally, now it’s just a talking point for politicians to get more money or to sound like they are actually doing some work...

Thats true. But they can nake it sticker by starting out to make it more difficult for doctors to prescribe it. Just like the opiods crisis. Many doctors that never needed to prescribe the drugs were doing it to make more money ont he side while in reality 80% of patients never needed it. It starting to happen with testosterone therapy.

The other part of why they will want to make it sticker us because many young kids are abusing steroids without the need of even needing it. From my experience the more its out there beung prescribed/abused the more the gov will step up and try to make it harder for citizens just as with any drug out there.

I guess there are always 2 sides to things. Ive seen testosterone being prescribed for just creative therapy while patients where fine with there natural testosterone from the very beginning then they end up with more problems than when they first started.

 

[Big_paul]

I always have at least 2-3 years.

 

[Monstar]

Honestly, I always figured back into the early 1990s that when the baby boomers really started to deteriorate we would see a major loosening on this. Now look at all the anti aging. Simple, neither Republicans nor Democrats like to get old and die and that generation is big and monied. Reality is that it is here to stay and only loosens and becomes more fact than fear based.

That said...I hold my stash to avoid fuckery regardless.

 

[m314]

Question: how could the laws be any stricter in the USA? Like make gear “more” illegal? Like schedule 2 or 1 instead of 3?

My point is that they are already illegal and that has not really stopped anyone, what else can they do?

I feel like the drug war in general has failed personally, now it’s just a talking point for politicians to get more money or to sound like they are actually doing some work...

Right now it's relatively easy to buy steroids online and get them into the country. If the government was motivated enough, they could spend the money it would take to search more packages coming through customs. Importing steroids is difficult in countries like Australia where customs searches more of the packages coming in.

The drug war has failed, but I'm not optimistic about it ending soon. All they have to do is show more dramatic news stories about the latest drug scare (bath salts, fentanyl, etc) to boost support for the prohibition laws.

 

[Night_Owl]

I dont see any oil + solvents drug here unless im mistaken

Sorry @Havah, you're right, I was mistaken.

 

[FLTestlab]

Right now it's relatively easy to buy steroids online and get them into the country. If the government was motivated enough, they could spend the money it would take to search more packages coming through customs. Importing steroids is difficult in countries like Australia where customs searches more of the packages coming in.

The drug war has failed, but I'm not optimistic about it ending soon. All they have to do is show more dramatic news stories about the latest drug scare (bath salts, fentanyl, etc) to boost support for the prohibition laws.

Thats very true. If they really wanted. They can make this all go away in a snap. But hey as I see it theres to much much money collected by the gov in crime. Imagine that where else would they those billions of dollars from citizens breaking the laws. Just by that woild put the economy in a hault lol

 

[GDL]

As for Canada, I’ve been told by police buddies that they don’t care about steroids. They only do something if they trip over it, or the guy starts to sell rec drugs.
They have way bigger fish to fry.

As for meat. Only beef can be stored frozen for long periods at a time. Pork starts to rot frozen after a year as well as poultry, the fat does not freeze completely.

 

[Kingsmountain]

As for meat. Only beef can be stored frozen for long periods at a time. Pork starts to rot frozen after a year as well as poultry, the fat does not freeze completely.

Curious as to where you seen that info.

U.S. Food Safety says:
"The guidelines for freezer storage are for quality only—frozen foods stored continuously at 0 °F or below can be kept indefinitely."

Maybe I am missing something but I have eaten chicken, beef and dear meat well over a couple years old from the freezer however, never pork.

Side note: the only meat that did not suffer quality taste?

The deer meat.

Could be because it is very low in fat which brings me to the pork statement ... some parts of pork are as lean as chicken.

Just my experience, however YMMV

 

[GDL]

Curious as to where you seen that info.

U.S. Food Safety says:
"The guidelines for freezer storage are for quality only—frozen foods stored continuously at 0 °F or below can be kept indefinitely."

Maybe I am missing something but I have eaten chicken, beef and dear meat well over a couple years old from the freezer however, never pork.

Side note: the only meat that did not suffer quality taste?

The deer meat.

Could be because it is very low in fat which brings me to the pork statement ... some parts of pork are as lean as chicken.

Just my experience, however YMMV

3rd generation meat shop owner.
30+ years in the meat business have owned my own meat market since 1995.
You might get a bit longer from poultry.
Personal experience.
Beef for sure lasts. Now my dad packing house was huge, like the size of a mall, 400 employees, anyhow, I was rearranging the freezer, and a sirloin tip had fallen in behind a rack, tough area to get at without moving rack, so previous guys just pretended it wasn’t there, it’s the freezer, can’t go bad, anyhow I pulled it out, it was 5 years old. I took it home and we cooked it fir dinner, my dad and I knew, but didn’t say anything till the end. Well the dog got the leftovers, lol,

Btw, what is US food safety. I don’t know this organization.
Now the USDA, or FDA, CFIA.
Maybe it’s not connected with the regulated government body? Could be why you got that info. I’m not being a jerk, but if you have a link, I’m intrested.

Also packaging is a huge influence on how long a product will last. I bet your deer meat was wrapped well in butcher paper, maybe plastic as well, under the paper?
If the beef or chicken was the pack from the grocery store, well the trays and that thin wrap is poor freezer wrap.

 

[Kingsmountain]

Btw, what is US food safety. I don’t know this organization.
Now the USDA, or FDA, CFIA.
Maybe it’s not connected with the regulated government body?

Cold Food Storage Chart

Nah, I don't think you are being a jerk at all bro.It's simply a discussion.
It's a Govco regulated website and even with that you have to take it with a grain of salt.

I guess I should have added that all meat I put away for freezer storage is done either in HEAVY zip locks or quality butchers paper (can't beat the paper IMHO.

AND yes the deer meat was in nothing but butchers paper.

Now that I have knowledge of your back ground I can take your advice more seriously.

Thanks for your insight and sharing.

 

[GDL]

Cold Food Storage Chart

Nah, I don't think you are being a jerk at all bro.It's simply a discussion.
It's a Govco regulated website and even with that you have to take it with a grain of salt.

I guess I should have added that all meat I put away for freezer storage is done either in HEAVY zip locks or quality butchers paper (can't beat the paper IMHO.

AND yes the deer meat was in nothing but butchers paper.

Now that I have knowledge of your back ground I can take your advice more seriously.

Thanks for your insight and sharing.

Unless you linked the wrong page, it says only a year for all Meats as a max to be frozen.
That guideline is really wrong anyways. Bacon for only a month frozen, lol.
Honestly, you get a year on everything frozen as long as it’s packaged right, and leaner cuts do last longer. Beef lamb and wild game fats are harder and last longer as well, pork, bear won’t last as long.

I learned the pork lesson the hard way. I prebought pork bellies that were 10 months old frozen on a wicked discounted price. So I put $10,000 of these bellies in my freezer, making bacon, everything was great, bacon was great, I was doubling my money. Then around month 14 the bacon started to taste off, the fat was going rancid. So I talk to my dad, he’s like yeah dumb ass, you only get about a year on pork. Cost me $6,000 for that mistake. I couldn’t work it into anything, and if I could the amount would be so small that it would take 10 years, lol.
So instead of having them in the way in the freezer, I threw it out. I was going to need the room for hunting season anyways.

 

[T&H]

I'm trying to figure out how this thread on stocking up on aas has turned into meat??

 

[Digger]

I'm trying to figure out how this thread on stocking up on aas has turned into meat??

I was thinking the same damn thing. We all hungry around here lol

 

[GDL]

Fuck with me everything turns into meat.
Jesus turned water into wine, I turn organ meats into sausage, lol.

My handle is GDL
Glucono delta lactone. An acidifying agent used in dry cured sausage that drops ph to inhibit bacterial growth and binding agent, lol.

Btw, I’m the master at thread derailing, lol.

 

[Kingsmountain]

Unless you linked the wrong page, it says only a year for all Meats as a max to be frozen.

You went right to the chart.
The paragraph right before the chart says:

"The guidelines for freezer storage are for quality only—frozen foods stored continuously at 0 °F or below can be kept indefinitely."

Notice the paragraph says the chart is for "quality only" but goes on to say that freezer storage is "indefinite" as long as frozen continously at or below zero.

Not trying to argue just pointing out what the website stated.

But as I said before, everything should be taken with a grain of salt and YMMV.

 

[Oldschool]

Question: how could the laws be any stricter in the USA? Like make gear “more” illegal? Like schedule 2 or 1 instead of 3?

My point is that they are already illegal and that has not really stopped anyone, what else can they do?

I feel like the drug war in general has failed personally, now it’s just a talking point for politicians to get more money or to sound like they are actually doing some work...

Well said.

Cool avi.

 

[Oldschool]

Fuck with me everything turns into meat.
Jesus turned water into wine, I turn organ meats into sausage, lol.

My handle is GDL
Glucono delta lactone. An acidifying agent used in dry cured sausage that drops ph to inhibit bacterial growth and binding agent, lol.

Btw, I’m the master at thread derailing, lol.

Grew up cranking on the meat grinder stealing Shiner Boch's making dried sausage. Good shit.

 

[Monstar]

Actually some really useful info. We have two refrigerators/freezers but I'm looking to add a large freezer chest in the coming month or so. Let's face it...food is a big bill for all of us and without food drugs don't do much.

 

[Mdrock98]

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