Do you plan to blast in old age (40+)?

[bigMoJo]

Blast ? Probably not. Cruise ? Of course. My friend's father is on TRT and 91 years old traveling the world as a sex tourist.

 

[ManK]

53 years old.
i 'm on trt, sub-q, just 70 mg week (10mg test E each other day) and 2 x 300 ui hcg week: i have 730 ng/ml stable.
2 times year (8 week only, never more) i blast 600 mg test week and 50mg var day. Lab test each 2 months seem fine.

 

[Eddie.]

53 years old.
i 'm on trt, sub-q, just 70 mg week (10mg test E each other day) and 2 x 300 ui hcg week: i have 730 ng/ml stable.
2 times year (8 week only, never more) i blast 600 mg test week and 50mg var day. Lab test each 2 months seem fine.

10mg eod is 35mg a week. You meant 20mg? Still, pretty good number for 70mg a week!

 

[Theworm]

53 years old.
i 'm on trt, sub-q, just 70 mg week (10mg test E each other day) and 2 x 300 ui hcg week: i have 730 ng/ml stable.
2 times year (8 week only, never more) i blast 600 mg test week and 50mg var day. Lab test each 2 months seem fine.

Blast with test c or prop?

 

[Theworm]

10mg eod is 35mg a week. You meant 20mg? Still, pretty good number for 70mg a week!

I do 50 mg twice a week and before my inject (day 3.5 trough) my TT is 695. So I inject Sunday night and Wednesday night, labs on Wednesday afternoon. I also do 500 hcg twice a week

 

[Eddie.]

I do 50 mg twice a week and before my inject (day 3.5 trough) my TT is 695. So I inject Sunday night and Wednesday night, labs on Wednesday afternoon. I also do 500 hcg twice a week

I'm 100% sure HCG adds quite a lot on TT since i've done this experiment myself too. On 200 test and 1500 HCG per week i was at 1450 TT while on 325 test and no HCG i was at 1470 TT. With daily pinning both, so no peak and troughs. It seems i'm a hyporesponder :|

 

[Theworm]

I'm 100% sure HCG adds quite a lot on TT since i've done this experiment myself too. On 200 test and 1500 HCG per week i was at 1450 TT while on 325 test and no HCG i was at 1470 TT. With daily pinning both, so no peak and troughs. It seems i'm a hyporesponder :|

Sometimes I wonder if my TT would be normal if I just did hcg but I never try it, maybe cause I feel like I’ll crash, just read where hcg mono seems to never work out long term

 

[Eddie.]

Sometimes I wonder if my TT would be normal if I just did hcg but I never try it, maybe cause I feel like I’ll crash, just read where hcg mono seems to never work out long term

On paper yeah it would be, i don't know how you'd feel though. Also, considering you had to do around 3X1000IU per week cost alone it doesn't worth it.

And honestly i'm one of these guys that don't see any benefit of using HCG outside a recovery protocol. I'm using right now (Merck ovitrelle) 3X325IU a week along with my test and no benefit at all. Sex drive is the same, loads are the same, balls are the same (this is probably to my varicocele though) so i don't think i'll use it again.

I'm ok with daily DHEA only. Last time i was running 1500 IU the only thing it did was raising my e2 effing skyhigh lol. If someone notice a better well being and sex drive then it's fine, otherwise it's a waste of money and time of frequent pinning.

 

[ManK]

10mg eod is 35mg a week. You meant 20mg? Still, pretty good number for 70mg a week!

yes i am sorry: 20 mg EOD

 

[ManK]

Blast with test c or prop?

Test E

 

[MaxROM]

I honestly would blast until my blood tests say Nono
even tho I probably would minimize it to test and maybe primo and won't run crazy doses..

 

[ManK]

10mg eod is 35mg a week. You meant 20mg? Still, pretty good number for 70mg a week!

Good number with less test injection is for the subq.
I and some friends tried in this way and all we heve same numbers with low dosage: need less test then injecting IM (as showed in many study).Personally is the only way to keep low my hct and have good numbers.

 

[Eddie.]

Good number with less test injection is for the subq.
I and some friends tried in this way and all we heve same numbers with low dosage: need less test then injecting IM (as showed in many study).Personally is the only way to keep low my hct and have good numbers.

Interesting to hear that. Can i ask how you came up with this conclusion? Have you tried and tested with IM? Personally i'm doing subc too and i was wondering if switching to IM gave me higher test numbers.

 

[ManK]

Interesting to hear that. Can i ask how you came up with this conclusion? Have you tried and tested with IM? Personally i'm doing subc too and i was wondering if switching to IM gave me higher test numbers.

i started trt as usual im, until 2 shot per week. But i always had HCT problem in the long period. I read a lot of forum and tried this way with very small inj eod. Actually with 70 mg (20mg eod) subq i have same numbers that i had with 2x55 mg 2 x week. But i have 4 point less of hct and i don't need AI to keep e2 under 35 pg ml

 

[Theworm]

On paper yeah it would be, i don't know how you'd feel though. Also, considering you had to do around 3X1000IU per week cost alone it doesn't worth it.

And honestly i'm one of these guys that don't see any benefit of using HCG outside a recovery protocol. I'm using right now (Merck ovitrelle) 3X325IU a week along with my test and no benefit at all. Sex drive is the same, loads are the same, balls are the same (this is probably to my varicocele though) so i don't think i'll use it again.

I'm ok with daily DHEA only. Last time i was running 1500 IU the only thing it did was raising my e2 effing skyhigh lol. If someone notice a better well being and sex drive then it's fine, otherwise it's a waste of money and time of frequent pinning.

I only feel my testicles get large is when I do 1000 units EOD, but then you have to worry about estrogen, and I get pregnyl at 225 dollars for 10,000 units, so yes not cost effective

 

[Theworm]

Interesting to hear that. Can i ask how you came up with this conclusion? Have you tried and tested with IM? Personally i'm doing subc too and i was wondering if switching to IM gave me higher test numbers.

Dr Crisler saw a 20% increase in absorption with SQ injects

 

[Eddie.]

@Theworm $225? Man, that sucks. I bought couple ovitrelle for $50 each and it's 6500IU, but still more expensive than the actual testosterone. Dr Crisler was a pretty cool dude, if he said that which is the same thing @ManK noticed as well, it has to be the truth.

 

[Theworm]

Interesting to hear that. Can i ask how you came up with this conclusion? Have you tried and tested with IM? Personally i'm doing subc too and i was wondering if switching to IM gave me higher test numbers.

Dr Crisler saw a 20% increase in absorption with SQ injects

@Theworm $225? Man, that sucks. I bought couple ovitrelle for $50 each and it's 6500IU, but still more expensive than the actual testosterone. Dr Crisler was a pretty cool dude, if he said that which is the same thing @ManK noticed as well, it has to be the truth.

i get the pregnyl as there are reports at excel male that people where getting different testosterone readings using different brands of hcg

 

[Ouch]

Early 40’s here. Did my first ever cycle (Inj Winstrol only) when I was 21. Didn’t touch anything again until I was 36.

Currently on my last week of 300 test / 100 primo. Added 30mg Anavar the last 4 weeks as a PWO only.

I keep my total mg of androgens at 400 or less. Thinking my next blast will be just Test again…love the feel, but don’t love the look however.

I’ve also been on prescription Enclomiphene for a few years now, when not blasting. 12.5mg daily puts my total T close to 700. Im about to incorporate 500iu of HCG (indian pharma) 3 x weekly and see if that does anything.

I’m happy to stay on the enclo for as long as it keeps working. I don’t experience any sides from it and it seems to keep everything else in check. I am hoping that adding in HCG will bump my total to the 800-900 range.

 

[Ouch]

53 years old.
i 'm on trt, sub-q, just 70 mg week (10mg test E each other day) and 2 x 300 ui hcg week: i have 730 ng/ml stable.
2 times year (8 week only, never more) i blast 600 mg test week and 50mg var day. Lab test each 2 months seem fine.

Did you get this idea from another board with the 10mg ED injections along with the Humanafort supplement?