Elite Labs

[Johne71]

That is a vial worth saving LOL. I'm usually only lucky enough to get them on my hamburgers.

 

[Johne71]

Looks like a piece of carpet lint in there. At least it wasn't a fruit fly.

 

[colossus25]

@Johne71 its awesome to have someone here with your kind of knowledge and experience. All of my knowledge stems from my basic lab procedures i learned in college. Be ready because i for one will be picking your brain often lol

 

[Johne71]

No worries...I'll answer what I can and defer what I can't. I'm not a brewer yet so I'm speaking out my ass regarding that, but can see the process in my head as I've used filter tops, syringe filters, hotplates, cylinders, beakers, balances, etc. Most would be overkill for this I think. I appreciate the confidence though.

 

[colossus25]

No worries...I'll answer what I can and defer what I can't. I'm not a brewer yet so I'm speaking out my ass regarding that, but can see the process in my head as I've used filter tops, syringe filters, hotplates, cylinders, beakers, balances, etc. Most would be overkill for this I think. I appreciate the confidence though.

If you have any particular questions regarding the brewing process feel free to ask. Also ill be adding to the brew time thread as often as possible. Im not the most knowledgeable member here but i have been doing this for a few years and like you i am constantly researching.

 

[cdt5074]

I think we are confusing sterile vs aspectic technique. There is a pretty big difference. I'd just say we can end this argument by stating there is no UGL using sterile techniques. I hope this is what @cdt5074 is getting at. In the field of production etc, there is a huge difference between the two. Mostly for brewing AAS we are trying to achieve aseptic conditions. I'm impressed if anyone has a cleanroom in their place of residence. Without sharing too much, I come from 20+ years dealing directly with industrial microbiology and pharmaceuticals. Problem with autoclaving...that glass needs to be clean before autoclaving. If that glass is full of debris...still going to be full of sterile debris when autoclaved. Better off lightly covering with foil and baking after cleaned. Then using aseptic techniques to fill the vials and replace the tops aseptically as possible...which is what @colossus25 has described.

Ah so one of your own has to say it? If it comes from my mouth, it's completely invalid? haha well, not surprised there, but thank you for coming to my defense Johne71. colossus25 was just tripping over his words. maybe we all learned something.

Aseptic technique, such as what we practice when we inject, is very prudent, of course, but I have a few closing remarks. if the autoclave is unnecessary, and heating the final solution is apparently unnecessary, what is required for a safe injectable product? Well, it's stupidly simple. filtering IS "sterilization" for all intents and purposes. but if there's nothing to filter out, then you can in fact just mix powder and oil and inject. If there's no contaminant there's no contaminant, but filtering the final product is really the only precaution you need to take for mass distribution. I have a mason jar that I bleached and dried and then mixed tren in. I pull out an ml at a time, attach my syringe filter, and filter the product directly into another syringe, and then attach the needle and inject. Never had one injection complication in 1.5 years. Final filtration with a .22 micron filter I believe is the pharmaceutical standard for sterility. That's all a UGL needs, is filters, in spite of all your bullshit for "meso standards." lmfao

So don't say I didn't tell you so, but I did. All you fuck sticks scrutinizing this guy's brewing methods and apparatus don't know what the fuck you're talking about. You're a fucking joke meso with maybe 2 members worth their salt.

 

[colossus25]

Ah so one of your own has to say it? If it comes from my mouth, it's completely invalid? haha well, not surprised there, but thank you for coming to my defense Johne71. colossus25 was just tripping over his words. maybe we all learned something.

Aseptic technique, such as what we practice when we inject, is very prudent, of course, but I have a few closing remarks. if the autoclave is unnecessary, and heating the final solution is apparently unnecessary, what is required for a safe injectable product? Well, it's stupidly simple. filtering IS "sterilization" for all intents and purposes. but if there's nothing to filter out, then you can in fact just mix powder and oil and inject. If there's no contaminant there's no contaminant, but filtering the final product is really the only precaution you need to take for mass distribution. I have a mason jar that I bleached and dried and then mixed tren in. I pull out an ml at a time, attach my syringe filter, and filter the product directly into another syringe, and then attach the needle and inject. Never had one injection complication in 1.5 years. Final filtration with a .22 micron filter I believe is the pharmaceutical standard for sterility.

So don't say I didn't tell you so, but I did. All you fuck sticks scrutinizing this guy's brewing methods and apparatus don't know what the fuck you're talking about. You're a fucking joke meso with maybe 2 members worth their salt.

Lmaoo he wasn't defending you dumbass he was correcting the term i used. Again reading comprehension hahaha

 

[Johne71]

Not sure what you mean by "one of your own" as I'm clearly haven't been a member very long...don't know anyone personally. I just try not to be very abrasive...its just my method of communicating. I think you bring a lot to the table though and appreciate your input you provided. I figured I knew what you were eluding to. We both seem to have been lucky to gain some first hand experience. That is all...it is much easier to articulate for us than people that haven't worked in the field but only do this as a hobby.

 

[cdt5074]

Lmaoo he wasn't defending you dumbass he was correcting the term i used. Again reading comprehension hahaha

uhhh no he wasn't. using the wrong term means you're fucking wrong and you don't know what you're talking about. Get the fuck out of here colossus25 I took the piss out on you and it's all fucking right here for anyone to read. Suck my cock.

 

[colossus25]

Ah so one of your own has to say it? If it comes from my mouth, it's completely invalid? haha well, not surprised there, but thank you for coming to my defense Johne71. colossus25 was just tripping over his words. maybe we all learned something.

Aseptic technique, such as what we practice when we inject, is very prudent, of course, but I have a few closing remarks. if the autoclave is unnecessary, and heating the final solution is apparently unnecessary, what is required for a safe injectable product? Well, it's stupidly simple. filtering IS "sterilization" for all intents and purposes. but if there's nothing to filter out, then you can in fact just mix powder and oil and inject. If there's no contaminant there's no contaminant, but filtering the final product is really the only precaution you need to take for mass distribution. I have a mason jar that I bleached and dried and then mixed tren in. I pull out an ml at a time, attach my syringe filter, and filter the product directly into another syringe, and then attach the needle and inject. Never had one injection complication in 1.5 years. Final filtration with a .22 micron filter I believe is the pharmaceutical standard for sterility. That's all a UGL needs, is filters, in spite of all your bullshit for "meso standards." lmfao

So don't say I didn't tell you so, but I did. All you fuck sticks scrutinizing this guy's brewing methods and apparatus don't know what the fuck you're talking about. You're a fucking joke meso with maybe 2 members worth their salt.

So you filter every shot before you take it? That is ridiculous expensive, inconvenient, and just not practical. For safe storage of oil and to make a product to sell it needs to be mixed with a solvent and ba.

 

[colossus25]

uhhh no he wasn't. using the wrong term means you're fucking wrong and you don't know what you're talking about. Get the fuck out of here colossus25 I took the piss out on you and it's all fucking right here for anyone to read. Suck my cock.

Lmfaoo awwww shes mad hahahaha

 

[cdt5074]

So you filter every shot before you take it? That is ridiculous expensive, inconvenient, and just not practical. For safe storage of oil and to make a product to sell it needs to be mixed with a solvent and ba.

what the fuck are even talking about. I reuse my filters until they break. do you even fucking think? you're making me fucking sick. You are a FUCKING RETARD. nothing you've said makes any sense.

 

[colossus25]

what the fuck are even talking about. I reuse my filters until they break. do you even fucking think? you're making me fucking sick. You are a FUCKING RETARD.

Says the guy that filters every shot and claims a autoclave is unnecessary. Lmaoo yeah ok

 

[wedorecover]

I think I'm gonna look that chick up... I'm sure he wouldn't mind.

Train ?

 

[cdt5074]

Says the guy that filters every shot and claims a autoclave is unnecessary. Lmaoo yeah ok

can I explain something? There is a transcript of our entire conversation, in which nothing you said was correct, and none of your remarks now are even coherent or even grammatically correct. You...can't...just...say you were right. it doesn't work. THERE'S A TRANSCRIPT.

haha I won. game set fucking match. til next time meso. much love.

 

[wedorecover]

Says the guy that filters every shot and claims a autoclave is unnecessary. Lmaoo yeah ok

Just ignore that dude he was dropped on his head when he was a kid

 

[colossus25]

can I explain something? There is a transcript of our entire conversation, in which nothing you said was correct, and none of your remarks now are even coherent or even grammatically correct. You...can't...just...say you were right. it doesn't work. THERE'S A TRANSCRIPT.

haha I won. game set fucking match. til next time meso. much love.

What is it that you think you won? Everything i said was correct i just used the wrong terminology lol we've been making fun of you this whole time champ lololol

 

[colossus25]

Just ignore that dude he was dropped on his head when he was a kid

Just a couple pages ago he was begging me to explain how i brew and what techniques i use to make safe injectable oil. Now because i used the word sterile instead of aseptic apparently im wrong lmfaooo what a joke.

 

[Johne71]

@cdt5074 please explain more about filtering directly into a new syringe. Are you pulling the plunger all the way out and filling from the large end or injecting through the small end after pulling the plunger to the required (1cc) doseage?

 

[Eman]

Train ?

Dibs on ass.